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Signs With Design Errors

Started by CentralCAroadgeek, June 29, 2012, 08:22:36 PM

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roadman

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 05, 2017, 06:24:30 PM
The kerning is perfectly fine. What's wrong is that they didn't bother to make sure the numbers fit in the damn shield!
I'm gonna kick this one over to the Worst of Road Signs thread, because come on. :P

Looks to me like a classic case of using a SignCAD design verbatim instead of correcting the letter height of the route number.
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Scott5114

Quote from: jakeroot on April 26, 2017, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2017, 04:39:18 AM
I'm pretty sure H.B. wants states to have the right to post signs done in MS Word 97, complete with WordArt text and system-default clip art, because he feels the state's rights are more important than either form or function.

Just because they have the right to, doesn't mean they will.

Every right you grant to state DOTs gets granted to OkDOT.

Yes, yes they will.
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jakeroot

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2017, 08:48:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 26, 2017, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2017, 04:39:18 AM
I'm pretty sure H.B. wants states to have the right to post signs done in MS Word 97, complete with WordArt text and system-default clip art, because he feels the state's rights are more important than either form or function.

Just because they have the right to, doesn't mean they will.

Every right you grant to state DOTs gets granted to OkDOT.

Yes, yes they will.


hbelkins

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2017, 04:39:18 AM
I'm pretty sure H.B. wants states to have the right to post signs done in MS Word 97, complete with WordArt text and system-default clip art, because he feels the state's rights are more important than either form or function.


Fig. 1: This sign would be perfectly OK with H.B., as long as the Feds had nothing to do with it.

If you're going to pick at me, at least do it using a city in Kentucky, not southern Indiana.  :bigass:
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Scott5114

Quote from: hbelkins on April 26, 2017, 10:13:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2017, 04:39:18 AM
I'm pretty sure H.B. wants states to have the right to post signs done in MS Word 97, complete with WordArt text and system-default clip art, because he feels the state's rights are more important than either form or function.


Fig. 1: This sign would be perfectly OK with H.B., as long as the Feds had nothing to do with it.

If you're going to pick at me, at least do it using a city in Kentucky, not southern Indiana.  :bigass:

I'm pretty sure I picked the right city. ;)
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J N Winkler

Quote from: roadman on April 26, 2017, 12:28:26 PMLooks to me like a classic case of using a SignCAD design verbatim instead of correcting the letter height of the route number.

I had the same reaction (I have probably hundreds of sheets with the same error), but I also wondered how they could get the number to "bleed" out of the shield without creating a lot of extra work for themselves in fabrication.  My rather naïve idea of how signs are manufactured (I just collect the plans and make my own designs for fun, and don't actually make real signs) is that the numbers are put on a cut-out shield using process ink, and the shield is then direct-applied to the sign background.  Numbers bleeding out of the shield would seem to require at least one additional step to apply the bled-out parts to the green background, taking care to ensure they are aligned with the parts inside the shield.
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MNHighwayMan

#1081
All my experience with signs (just collecting and observing them) suggests that black digits are usually cut out from vinyl that has adhesive on the back. These would then be applied over the top of whatever else was printed beneath–in this case, shields that were printed too small for the intended digits.

formulanone

Crazy Eight(s) on LA 182 in Sunset, Louisiana:



(There was a second one ahead of this for the JCT sign.)

paulthemapguy

It's not even a diagonal intersection...why did they slant the symbology


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tckma

Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 17, 2017, 09:52:12 AM
It's not even a diagonal intersection...why did they slant the symbology

My guess is they printed it wrong, as if it were a rectangle sign, and didn't want to mount it as a rectangle sign since it should be a diamond sign.

tckma

What's up with the mixed fonts on this sign?


paulthemapguy

New Lenox, IL doesn't understand how signs work.  HOW CAN YOU HAVE 'BETWEEN SIGNS' IF THIS SIGN IS IN THE MIDDLE  :-D :-D :-D :pan: :pan: :pan:


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roadman

Quote from: J N Winkler on April 27, 2017, 11:26:38 AM
Quote from: roadman on April 26, 2017, 12:28:26 PMLooks to me like a classic case of using a SignCAD design verbatim instead of correcting the letter height of the route number.

I had the same reaction (I have probably hundreds of sheets with the same error), but I also wondered how they could get the number to "bleed" out of the shield without creating a lot of extra work for themselves in fabrication.  My rather naïve idea of how signs are manufactured (I just collect the plans and make my own designs for fun, and don't actually make real signs) is that the numbers are put on a cut-out shield using process ink, and the shield is then direct-applied to the sign background.  Numbers bleeding out of the shield would seem to require at least one additional step to apply the bled-out parts to the green background, taking care to ensure they are aligned with the parts inside the shield.
Later versions of SignCAD include a function that allows the panel design to be sent directly to the sign shop's cutter.  So it is conceivable that the numerals were cut and applied exactly according to the SignCAD drawing, because that's the information that the sign shop used.  Another example of GIGO (garbage in-garbage out).
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Scott5114

Good news, fans of this thread! Oklahoma is attempting APLs now!

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jakeroot

"EXIT ONLY" really should be white-on-black. It's regulatory, not warning.

That said, not bad for a first attempt. I was expecting perhaps one too many arrows, maybe some wonky letters.  :clap:

Scott5114

#1090
Well, there are some wonky letters. Note the kerning in 'City'. And the right half of the sign isn't horizontally centered. Maybe it's a metaphor for the relationship between Oklahoma City and Dallas.

Unfortunately, the picture makes it difficult to tell that the sign is bolted on the gantry at an angle (one end of the sign is higher than the other).

Cleaned up, easier to see version:


Also of note: another recently-posted sign in this project, which I didn't take a picture of since I first saw it at night, features a diagonally compressed arrow. Ah, OkDOT.
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freebrickproductions

Spotted these in Hartselle, AL...
Apparently this section of Kimbough Street was annexed by Australia:
Australian Two-Way Traffic? by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
Australian Two-Way Traffic? by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

And then this one sign for this Recreational Center has "center" spelled as "CENTR", don't know why they didn't bother correcting it since all of the other signs have "CENTER" spelled correctly...
CENTR by freebrickproductions, on Flickr
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SignGeek101

Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 14, 2017, 08:55:26 PM
And then this one sign for this Recreational Center has "center" spelled as "CENTR", don't know why they didn't bother correcting it since all of the other signs have "CENTER" spelled correctly...
CENTR by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Maybe they were trying to spell "Centre" the British/Canadian way and simply forgot the 'e' at the end  :bigass:

freebrickproductions

Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 14, 2017, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 14, 2017, 08:55:26 PM
And then this one sign for this Recreational Center has "center" spelled as "CENTR", don't know why they didn't bother correcting it since all of the other signs have "CENTER" spelled correctly...
CENTR by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Maybe they were trying to spell "Centre" the British/Canadian way and simply forgot the 'e' at the end  :bigass:
Well, all of the others are spelled "Center", but this is Hartselle we're talking about here, so...
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JJBers

Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 14, 2017, 09:13:22 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 14, 2017, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 14, 2017, 08:55:26 PM
And then this one sign for this Recreational Center has "center" spelled as "CENTR", don't know why they didn't bother correcting it since all of the other signs have "CENTER" spelled correctly...
CENTR by freebrickproductions, on Flickr

Maybe they were trying to spell "Centre" the British/Canadian way and simply forgot the 'e' at the end  :bigass:
Well, all of the others are spelled "Center", but this is Hartselle we're talking about here, so...
Maybe they forgot dot at the end or Centr.
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Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2017, 09:55:14 PM
ban this sick filth


20170327_091406 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

:-D Say what, now? Okay, I can get having NPZ pennants on major highways, but this? In a residential area? Bruh! A simple Do Not Pass would suffice better.
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cjk374

Quote from: Billy F 1988 on July 18, 2017, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 27, 2017, 09:55:14 PM
ban this sick filth


20170327_091406 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

:-D Say what, now? Okay, I can get having NPZ pennants on major highways, but this? In a residential area? Bruh! A simple Do Not Pass would suffice better.

Maybe there was a 2-for-1 sale on the pennants.  :pan: :sombrero:
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PurdueBill

The pennant looks more like a yellow yield sign blank turned 90 degrees. 

Regarding black numerals being applied later to a sign, that could explain the sign on US 30 west of Upper Sandusky a few years ago that had a totally blank Ohio shield that should have had "37" inside it.  Must have left the shop without sticking the numerals on.....
Somewhere I have a photo of it.

PHLBOS

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2017, 04:19:46 AMCleaned up, easier to see version:
Use of Series E for numerals on the I-shields; something one usually doesn't see post-button-copy.
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2017, 04:19:46 AM
Well, there are some wonky letters. Note the kerning in 'City'. And the right half of the sign isn't horizontally centered. Maybe it's a metaphor for the relationship between Oklahoma City and Dallas.

Unfortunately, the picture makes it difficult to tell that the sign is bolted on the gantry at an angle (one end of the sign is higher than the other).

Cleaned up, easier to see version:


Also of note: another recently-posted sign in this project, which I didn't take a picture of since I first saw it at night, features a diagonally compressed arrow. Ah, OkDOT.

Looks like whoever created the infamous Craig County (and its companion Mayes County) sign is slowly...SLOWLY...learning how to make signs.
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