Logo sign panels - 48x36" vs. 60x36"

[Pink Jazz]

In different states, there seems to be different practices on whether to use 48x36" panels vs. 60x36" panels on logo signs.  The historical preference for most states is to use 48x36" panels for Gas and 60x36" for all other service types.  However, ever since many states have launched urban logo sign programs, it is fairly typical for urban installations in many states to use 48x36" panels regardless of the service type.  Some states (such as New Mexico) use 48x36" panels exclusively.

I would like to know, what is the standard in your state?

Here in Arizona, the current standard is for Phoenix and Tucson to use 48x36" panels, and for Flagstaff, Yuma, and the rural areas to use 60x36" panels, regardless of service type.  Prior to when ADOT launched its urban logo sign program, the standard was for Gas panels to use 48x36" panels (with many still in use), however, newer installations for the rural areas as well as Flagstaff and Yuma use 60x36" panels for all service types including Gas.

[myosh_tino]

California's Logo signs (Sign Code SG42 series) use 48" x 36" panels in rural areas (Logo signs are not allowed in urban areas).

[Pink Jazz]

Speaking of this, is there any historical reason why 48x36" panels were preferred for Gas while 60x36" panels were preferred for other service types?  That seems to be historical preference by many states, although with the introduction of urban logo sign programs 48x36" panels are becoming more common for other service types to save on sign width for urban installations.  I know Virginia also uses 48x36" panels for most urban installations while 60x36" panels are used for most rural installations except for Gas.

[jeffandnicole]

Speaking of this, is there any historical reason why 48x36" panels were preferred for Gas while 60x36" panels were preferred for other service types?  That seems to be historical preference by many states, although with the introduction of urban logo sign programs 48x36" panels are becoming more common for other service types to save on sign width for urban installations.  I know Virginia also uses 48x36" panels for most urban installations while 60x36" panels are used for most rural installations except for Gas.

I've actually never really noticed a size difference on the logo signs I've seen.  Sometimes there's small differences within a sign panel for like-services but they appear to be sign making errors.

[jakeroot]

Speaking of this, is there any historical reason why 48x36" panels were preferred for Gas while 60x36" panels were preferred for other service types?  That seems to be historical preference by many states, although with the introduction of urban logo sign programs 48x36" panels are becoming more common for other service types to save on sign width for urban installations.  I know Virginia also uses 48x36" panels for most urban installations while 60x36" panels are used for most rural installations except for Gas.

I would guess that, at most interstate junctions, the number of restaurants and/or hotels outnumber the amount of gas stations.

[Pink Jazz]

I would guess that, at most interstate junctions, the number of restaurants and/or hotels outnumber the amount of gas stations.

That is indeed true.  I have seen many exits where the Food category overflows onto a second sign, and I have seen a few full Lodging signs as well in a few cities as well.  Here in the Phoenix area, the exit that I have seen the most Gas panels on is at Loop 101 and Cave Creek Road, with a total of four.

However, the Camping category rarely has more than one or two panels on one sign, yet historically has used 60x36" panels.  In the early 2000s VDOT actually took advantage of the spare capacity on Camping signs to introduce an experimental "Full Service Food" category (defined as a restaurant serving three meals a day, excluding fast food), which became the inspiration for allowing the same service type to appear on up to two signs.  Camping is historically the least used of the original four service categories.

[Mergingtraffic]

This is the only LOGO sign in CT for GAS that uses larger panels.  What size is this?  I've seen this size for FOOD, ATTRACTIONS and LODGING but not for GAS.

[Pink Jazz]

This is the only LOGO sign in CT for GAS that uses larger panels.  What size is this?  I've seen this size for FOOD, ATTRACTIONS and LODGING but not for GAS.

Looks like a 60x36.


Phoenix and Tucson mostly use 48x36" regardless of service type, except for some outskirt areas that were grandfathered from the rural program (I-10 in Goodyear, and US 60 east of Loop 202 in Mesa/Apache Junction).  Flagstaff, Yuma and Casa Grande were also grandfathered from the rural program to use 60x36" even though they are now part of the urban program in terms of pricing structure.  Rural freeways continue to use 60x36".

[roadman]

Concur with Pink Jazz.  60" x 36".

[jakeroot]

Any idea what size this would be? Similar 3x2 panel as the image above, although it seems slightly narrower:

WA-512 eastbound approaching Canyon Road, Puyallup, WA

I don't much pay attention to logo signs, but I seem to recall logo panels with 6 spots, whether vertical or horizontal (above), being the most common type on Washington state routes.

[roadman]

Any idea what size this would be? Similar 3x2 panel as the image above, although it seems slightly narrower:

WA-512 eastbound approaching Canyon Road, Puyallup, WA

I don't much pay attention to logo signs, but I seem to recall logo panels with 6 spots, whether vertical or horizontal (above), being the most common type on Washington state routes.

Shell logo is 48" X 36", other logos are 60" X 36".