Signs in one state about exits, or state highways for another state; BGS

Started by ethanhopkin14, July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM

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DSS5

Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 13, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"

If they do that as a general rule, then this doesn't apply, but it seems to me that in that specific case, it might just be to prevent confusion with Jefferson City, Tennessee.  That is, if there weren't a city with the same name in the same part of Tennessee, they wouldn't have bothered with the NC.

That would make sense. However, I may be misremembering, but I believe I've seen the same thing with a sign for Asheville, NC.


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^^ Interesting setup with "WEST" on the left of the shield.  Usually that means a left exit, but the exit tab is on the right.
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DSS5

Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"

Here's an example: http://goo.gl/maps/HiR5D

codyg1985

Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 13, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on August 13, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
Trying to find an example on StreetView, but some signs in Tennessee (or at least Eastern TN) actually say when their pointing to another state, for example a directional sign that points to "JEFFERSON NC"

If they do that as a general rule, then this doesn't apply, but it seems to me that in that specific case, it might just be to prevent confusion with Jefferson City, Tennessee.  That is, if there weren't a city with the same name in the same part of Tennessee, they wouldn't have bothered with the NC.

This is done in Memphis with Jackson, MS. The guide signs say "Jackson Miss" to avoid confusion with Jackson, TN about 80 miles to the northeast.

There is also this example, but Huntsville, TN and Princeton, TN are small towns a bit far away from this location (Huntland, TN).
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PHLBOS

Along I-81 Northbound near the MD-PA border.

1-mile advance for PA's Exit 1 (PA 163) - Note: BGS has since been replaced with non-black bordered PA 163 shield & Clearview font for everything else (Maryland spec'd):

http://goo.gl/maps/u7dQJ

Further north at 1/4 mile advance, this BGS is still present:

http://goo.gl/maps/BwG8B
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Scott5114

Hard to tell from the cruddy imagery, but that may well be an old Oklahoma DOT button copy sign.
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on_wisconsin

Here are a couple near La Crosse, WI:
http://goo.gl/maps/cl6dT, http://goo.gl/maps/v45WD, http://goo.gl/maps/RJVnP, http://goo.gl/maps/zZq3u, the exit is in MN.

One on the Minnesota side of the St. Croix across from Hudson, WI, http://goo.gl/maps/GUqFU, and a small one on the right side of the river: http://goo.gl/maps/Uvha4.
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 23, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 22, 2013, 11:53:02 PM
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Pocola, OK

if you pan the map east, you get what appears to be a very sharp jog in the state line right underneath the 271 freeway.  is that really like that?

Not to my knowledge. I'm not sure what that is...maybe shifting the line around the casino? You can see the actual state line in the pavement change.

What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)
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DSS5

Quote from: US71 on August 23, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)

I love observing the pavement changes across state lines. At every NC/TN border crossing I've been through, as well as TN/VA crossings, the pavement on the Tennessee side is always a lot older.

Road Hog

Noticed the state line between Arkansas and Oklahoma makes some funny slight jogs to the left and right. I always thought it was a straight longitudinal line between the Arkansas and Red Rivers.

NE2

Quote from: Road Hog on August 25, 2013, 07:26:55 PM
Noticed the state line between Arkansas and Oklahoma makes some funny slight jogs to the left and right. I always thought it was a straight longitudinal line between the Arkansas and Red Rivers.
Neither. It's a straight diagonal (or as straight as they could survey in those days).
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ethanhopkin14

Quote from: DSS5 on August 24, 2013, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 23, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)

I love observing the pavement changes across state lines. At every NC/TN border crossing I've been through, as well as TN/VA crossings, the pavement on the Tennessee side is always a lot older.

Me too.  Investigating state lines is a hobby of mine.

DSS5

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 25, 2013, 09:08:40 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on August 24, 2013, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 23, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
What you can't see is where old 271 "jumps" across the 4-Lane. You basically have to drive it and observe the pavement ;)

I love observing the pavement changes across state lines. At every NC/TN border crossing I've been through, as well as TN/VA crossings, the pavement on the Tennessee side is always a lot older.

Me too.  Investigating state lines is a hobby of mine.

I found an exception to my previous stated rule today on NC 88/TN 67 . But there are "Loose Gravel" and "Unmarked Pavement" signs up that make it seem like they're getting ready to resurface the NC side.

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Scott5114

Interestingly enough, you can't continue into Germany on Street View. In fact, there appears to be no Street View in Germany at all. Does it violate German privacy law?
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aerules

Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers. 

NE2

Quote from: aerules on September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 AM
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers. 
Only the one exit on the bridge, which is under DRPA jurisdiction...
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Quote from: aerules on September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 AM
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers. 
Only the one exit on the bridge, which is under DRPA jurisdiction...

It still doesn't make sense though.  It's clearly an exit in NJ.  Exit numbers are based on the state the exit is located in, not the jurisdiction of the bi-state authority (which, to point out, is based in Camden, NJ).


PHLBOS

Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2013, 08:51:50 AM
Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 06:34:30 AM
Quote from: aerules on September 20, 2013, 06:17:22 AM
Not sure if this counts but I76 in New Jersey is still under PA exit numbers. 
Only the one exit on the bridge, which is under DRPA jurisdiction...

It still doesn't make sense though.  It's clearly an exit in NJ.  Exit numbers are based on the state the exit is located in, not the jurisdiction of the bi-state authority (which, to point out, is based in Camden, NJ).

What's even worse is that this mistake was repeated.  It was first signed as Exit 48 sometime in the mid-to-late 90s then it changed to Exit 354 when PA changed to mile-marker-based exit numbering a few years later.  It should be signed as Exit 2.
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