IN SR 25 Upgrade Report

[TEG24601]

On Saturday there were no mentions of "Business 25" anywhere--just "Old 25" at both the roundabout at the southern end of the new road and at the intersection with the new roadway that ties in the old road to Delphi with the new.

You can blame me for the Business SR 25 listing on Google Maps.  While it is currently being referred to as "Old 25" (from the previous rerouting), Delphi is hoping to get it designated as "Business 25" after the full road is complete, as they already have roads named Old 25, and they can't figure out what else to call them or the old 25 route once the State Road designation is removed.  When I was back in Delphi in December, I was hearing from some people that there was even a discussion about a 421/39/18 bypass of the city, at least to the route coming from Pitsburg/West Delphi, to remove even more truck traffic from the tight city streets.

I don't see a 421/39/18 bypass for a while

Nor can I, but people are talking about it, much like they were about the SR-25 expressway in 1999.

[silverback1065]

On Saturday there were no mentions of "Business 25" anywhere--just "Old 25" at both the roundabout at the southern end of the new road and at the intersection with the new roadway that ties in the old road to Delphi with the new.

You can blame me for the Business SR 25 listing on Google Maps.  While it is currently being referred to as "Old 25" (from the previous rerouting), Delphi is hoping to get it designated as "Business 25" after the full road is complete, as they already have roads named Old 25, and they can't figure out what else to call them or the old 25 route once the State Road designation is removed.  When I was back in Delphi in December, I was hearing from some people that there was even a discussion about a 421/39/18 bypass of the city, at least to the route coming from Pitsburg/West Delphi, to remove even more truck traffic from the tight city streets.

I don't see a 421/39/18 bypass for a while

Nor can I, but people are talking about it, much like they were about the SR-25 expressway in 1999.

The big thing holding any new road construction is money, there simply isn't enough money to go around, I think SR 37 in Noblesville/Fishers area would get the money first, among many other projects that are more pressing.

[TEG24601]

On Saturday there were no mentions of "Business 25" anywhere--just "Old 25" at both the roundabout at the southern end of the new road and at the intersection with the new roadway that ties in the old road to Delphi with the new.

You can blame me for the Business SR 25 listing on Google Maps.  While it is currently being referred to as "Old 25" (from the previous rerouting), Delphi is hoping to get it designated as "Business 25" after the full road is complete, as they already have roads named Old 25, and they can't figure out what else to call them or the old 25 route once the State Road designation is removed.  When I was back in Delphi in December, I was hearing from some people that there was even a discussion about a 421/39/18 bypass of the city, at least to the route coming from Pitsburg/West Delphi, to remove even more truck traffic from the tight city streets.

I don't see a 421/39/18 bypass for a while

Nor can I, but people are talking about it, much like they were about the SR-25 expressway in 1999.

The big thing holding any new road construction is money, there simply isn't enough money to go around, I think SR 37 in Noblesville/Fishers area would get the money first, among many other projects that are more pressing.

Agreed.

[mukade]

There are still a number of different projects from different contracts underway from Delphi to Logansport. Some areas show fast and impressive progress. The best progress can be seen around Logansport where most of the new highway is paved and the new interchange at US 24/US 35/ SR 29/SR 25 is looking good. You can see where they are tying the westbound lanes with the eastbound lanes at the very west end. When this is done (and the new road is opened), they can permanently remove the current eastbound lanes of the current bypass.

Around the east side of Delphi, a lot of heavy earth-moving and bridge work had to be done, and it has taken shape a lot in the last month.

Around Burrows, asphalt pavement is being laid in the new eastbound lanes. In other areas, concrete pavement is being poured. All in all, pretty good progress, but certain areas look to be a lot further behind. It will be interesting to see if they can pull what they did with I-69 last year and accomplish a lot in a short period of time.

[TEG24601]

I'm actually going back to the area again in early September, at which point I hope to be able to take some photographs, and gather enough information to finalize the Google Maps updates, and maybe look at the new bypass in Lafayette/West Lafayette.

[mukade]

A more than $330 million highway project connecting several communities within the north central part of the state is nearing completion. The final Logansport to Delphi section of the Hoosier Heartland Corridor is set to open in phases beginning next month. The road will connect I-65 in Tippecanoe County to the Fort-to-Port corridor in Cass County, providing a continuous four-lane route between Lafayette and Toledo.

Full article: 'Hoosier Heartland' Finish Line in Sight (Inside Indiana Business)

[NWI_Irish96]

A more than $330 million highway project connecting several communities within the north central part of the state is nearing completion. The final Logansport to Delphi section of the Hoosier Heartland Corridor is set to open in phases beginning next month. The road will connect I-65 in Tippecanoe County to the Fort-to-Port corridor in Cass County, providing a continuous four-lane route between Lafayette and Toledo.

Full article: 'Hoosier Heartland' Finish Line in Sight (Inside Indiana Business)

That press release said new sections would be opening beginning this week.  Is this still the case? 

[mukade]

A section near Rockfield was striped and ready to open over the weekend (shown below). Whether or not, they open it in sections will be interesting. Of course once they open the northbound lanes in most areas (other than the new terrain areas), the southbound lanes will have to be resurfaced with the final asphalt layer.

Virtually all of the mainline looks to have pavement. It seems to be roughly 40% PCCP and 60% HMA on the new part. The main unpaved areas excluding shoulder work were the new US 24/US 35 routing at SR 25 and the new SR 218 routing where it meets SR 25.

[PurdueBill]

I was surprised a couple weeks ago to see the oddball sign on 25 NB before the roundabout has been moved from posts to gantry....it looked like a one-off temporary sign, but maybe it's permanent?


The placement of Delphi on the sign has problems...unusually strange for INDOT or its contractors.  Maybe it will still be replaced.

[NWI_Irish96]

I drove 25 from Logansport to Lafayette Saturday, and at Delphi, the signage routed me out of town on old 25 for several miles before routing me onto the new road, instead of routing me out 421/39/18 to where the new section currently begins.  Anybody know why?

[PurdueBill]

I drove 25 from Logansport to Lafayette Saturday, and at Delphi, the signage routed me out of town on old 25 for several miles before routing me onto the new road, instead of routing me out 421/39/18 to where the new section currently begins.  Anybody know why?

It's been that way ever since the new route opened.  Trucks northbound are actually instructed to use "old" 25 NB by turning left there instead of using 421; I think there is at least one underpass that they may be avoiding for truck traffic.  Easier to send everyone the same way at the downtown intersection vs. adding more signs to the salad that's already there.

Even though I know that I could turn left there and get on new 25 where it picks up, I choose during my frequent trips through there to stay on the old route until it intersects the new.  Unless there is a train, it seems faster anyway.

[TEG24601]

I was just in Carroll County the weekend of the 16th, and was surprised that the bypass from Main St. to 421/39/18 wasn't open yet.  It was nearly complete when I was there in December, and you would think 8 months on it would be further along.  I was also surprised that while I was there they had just opened a few of the bypasses around Rockfield.  I wanted to check out the whole progress, but the purpose of my visit was mainly to the West, otherwise, I likely would have made a full trip from end-to-end.

[mukade]

Paving on that section began in August of this year. At the end of 2012, they were moving earth - as a matter of fact, a construction worker was killed in a landslide there.

[tvketchum]

I drove 25 from Logansport to Lafayette Saturday, and at Delphi, the signage routed me out of town on old 25 for several miles before routing me onto the new road, instead of routing me out 421/39/18 to where the new section currently begins.  Anybody know why?

It's been that way ever since the new route opened.  Trucks northbound are actually instructed to use "old" 25 NB by turning left there instead of using 421; I think there is at least one underpass that they may be avoiding for truck traffic.  Easier to send everyone the same way at the downtown intersection vs. adding more signs to the salad that's already there.

Even though I know that I could turn left there and get on new 25 where it picks up, I choose during my frequent trips through there to stay on the old route until it intersects the new.  Unless there is a train, it seems faster anyway.

There is a school complex just north of the interchange with US 421. The intent is to route trucks around that area to avoid the traffic from buses, teachers, parents, and school pedestrians crossing US 421.

[mukade]

The final stretch of the Hoosier Heartland Corridor is slated to open Friday, state officials announced today.

During the past month, portions of Indiana 25 between Logansport and Delphi have opened in phases, most notably the sections around Rockfield and Burrows. On Friday, all sections will be open to traffic...

Full article: Last stretch of Hoosier Heartland Corridor will open Friday (jconline.com)

[mukade]

I drove down the new SR 25 today, and it is generally open except:
1) tie-in at US 24/US 35 in Logansport
2) tie-in at Clymers
3) several miles of southbound lanes need striping so barricades block one lane for several miles from west of Clymers to west of Rockfield
4) bridge over SR 25 near Burrows is far from completion with beams not set in place
5) Northbound SR 29/Northbound US 35/westbound US 24 lanes still UC
6) At least four other connectors to/from sections of old SR 25 remain to be completed


SR 25 on the east side of Delphi


SR 25 between Delphi and Rockfield where temporary striping in westbound lanes is being removed



SR 25 at the Logansport exit (westbound-top and eastbound bottom)

[silverback1065]

So are they removing the small piece of the road us 24/35 used to use before this opened?

[mukade]

The Monticello Road exit is closed off. The plans I saw showed the eastbound lanes to be removed.

[silverback1065]

what is the official routing of 25 through logansport?

[NWI_Irish96]

what is the official routing of 25 through logansport?

This is how it was explained to me:

SR 25 exits the new US24/35 freeway at Burlington Avenue (former SR 29).  Follows Burlington north into downtown, where it becomes 3rd street.  Between 3rd and 6th streets, it runs west (northbound) on Market and east (southbound) on Broadway.  It follows 6th street north out of downtown and then north out of town on Michigan Ave.

[silverback1065]

what is the official routing of 25 through logansport?

This is how it was explained to me:

SR 25 exits the new US24/35 freeway at Burlington Avenue (former SR 29).  Follows Burlington north into downtown, where it becomes 3rd street.  Between 3rd and 6th streets, it runs west (northbound) on Market and east (southbound) on Broadway.  It follows 6th street north out of downtown and then north out of town on Michigan Ave.

So does sr 29 still end where it used to?

[tdindy88]

SR 29 ends at the interchange I believe, where the road to the north becomes US 24 & 35. I am curious to see how this highway goes as I plan on doing a big one-day trip across northern Indiana hopefully this Sunday for AARoads. I hope to finish the SR 25 corridor from Logansport to Lafayette, plus the US 231 bypass in West Lafayette, along with a few of the newer projects in the far northern part of the state (new SR 49 interchange in Valpo, new SR 331 in Mishawaka and I-69 interchange north of Fort Wayne.)

[silverback1065]

SR 29 ends at the interchange I believe, where the road to the north becomes US 24 & 35. I am curious to see how this highway goes as I plan on doing a big one-day trip across northern Indiana hopefully this Sunday for AARoads. I hope to finish the SR 25 corridor from Logansport to Lafayette, plus the US 231 bypass in West Lafayette, along with a few of the newer projects in the far northern part of the state (new SR 49 interchange in Valpo, new SR 331 in Mishawaka and I-69 interchange north of Fort Wayne.)

231 is very nice.  Is the small piece of burlington ave in between sr 29 and the new exit a state road too?  The way I look at it, it isn't.

[tdindy88]

From the Logansport Pharos-Tribune:

"In 1982, the state first began exploring the feasibility of replacing the old, two-lane Ind. 25 with a four-lane, limited access highway that would connect Ind. 69 in Fort Wayne to U.S. 65 in Lafayette. After funding was secured and various segments of the highway opened over the decades, the final stretch of the project from Delphi to Logansport was opened Friday."

Either this highway runs from New Harmony to Springfield, MO, or the highways are wrong.

[theline]

Also not "limited access" in the strictest sense. Newspaper journalism is in a sorry state these days.