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Local destinations that accurately look like they're for far away places

Started by hotdogPi, May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM

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hotdogPi

I know of two examples:

1. US 59 north from Houston is labeled "Cleveland", referring to Cleveland, TX. It's also the best way to Cleveland, OH.
2. US 64 west from I-95 is labeled "Nashville", referring to Nashville, NC. It's also the best way to Nashville, TN.

Any other examples?
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1995hoo

Not sure if this is what you have in mind, but BGSs in West Virginia pointing the way to Charleston (as the state capital) from the west (such as this one in Huntington) or the north (but not the northeast beyond the junction of I-79 and US-19) are also accurately pointing the best way to Charleston, South Carolina. This doesn't apply to signs located to the south, such as in Beckley, because from there Charlie West is in the opposite direction from Charlie South, and it doesn't apply to signs located too far to the northeast because if you're going south, it's more direct to exit the Interstate to cut the corner via the New River Gorge Bridge.
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jeffandnicole

Wilmington, in NJ, leads you into Delaware, where you can continue to go south on 95 to pick up I-40 to get to Wilmington, NC.

jmacswimmer

There's Washington PA/DC when getting on I-70 east from exit 1 in PA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0995542,-80.5056375,3a,48.7y,197.87h,83.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_iDImTbQbe1n0szgyM6T3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1?hl=en

(Used this exact location since all the other signs in both WV & PA specifically list "Washington PA")
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1995hoo

I suppose this sign on US-17 near New Bern, North Carolina, accurately points the way to both Jacksonville, NC, and Jacksonville, FL, though I'm not sure whether following US-17 south here is necessarily the "best" route to Florida from there. Google Maps suggests it is not, though I suspect if I wanted to make that trip I'd probably head down to either Wilmington or Myrtle Beach before cutting west to I-95.
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—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

CoreySamson

This sign in Lake Village, Arkansas nearly works. Taking US 82 east not only leads you to Greenville, Mississippi; it's also the fastest way to get to Greenville, South Carolina.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3296628,-91.2934932,3a,26.2y,91.94h,84.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXBRtGyePxshrAs67rPdGjw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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jmacswimmer

"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

kphoger

Let me get this straight:  You want examples for which...

(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and

(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.

?

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GaryV

There's enough Springfield's around that we could find several cases, I'm sure.

2 for just Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO  (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
-- Coming eb on I-74, it would apply to both IL and OH

EDIT:  I guess both of those are somewhat backwards - in IL, the near location is more "famous" than the away location

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en

(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
(2) Nobody would go that way to get to Columbus, OH.
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hotdogPi

Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
Let me get this straight:  You want examples for which...

(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and

(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.

?

Yes.
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Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

GaryV

Here's a better one.

SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.

kphoger

Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO  (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)

the near location is more "famous" than the away location

Despite your assertion that the nearer one is the one that would more readily come to mind, I still find it interesting.  However, I think the same condition would apply at the western end:  people traveling east wouldn't naturally think of Springfield, IL.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jmacswimmer

Quote from: cabiness42 on May 06, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en

(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
(2) Nobody would go that way to get to Columbus, OH.

Out of curiosity, which way would people go then? Google maps shows the SR 46/SR 3/I-74/I-275/I-71 route as the shortest/quickest route.  I-65/I-465/I-70 adds a little time & distance, but does have the advantage of being all-freeway.
"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 01:08:22 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 06, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en

(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
(2) Nobody would go that way to get to Columbus, OH.

Out of curiosity, which way would people go then? Google maps shows the SR 46/SR 3/I-74/I-275/I-71 route as the shortest/quickest route.  I-65/I-465/I-70 adds a little time & distance, but does have the advantage of being all-freeway.

If you're already in Columbus, IN, that may be the fastest way to get to Columbus, OH, but if you're on that stretch of I-65 heading towards Columbus, IN coming from any sort of distance, you would have exited before you got to IN 46 if you were going to Columbus, OH. 
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1995hoo

Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
Here's a better one.

SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.


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Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
I know of two examples:

1. US 59 north from Houston is labeled "Cleveland", referring to Cleveland, TX. It's also the best way to Cleveland, OH.
1. [sic] US 64 west from I-95 is labeled "Nashville", referring to Nashville, NC. It's also the best way to Nashville, TN.

Any other examples?
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kphoger


He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

1995hoo

Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 01:37:40 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2020, 01:21:03 PM

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Well, it's certainly not worse then the OP, right?

Heh, maybe I should have cross-posted it to the "Department of Redundancy Department" thread.

BTW, the last time we passed the "Nashville" sign in question in North Carolina, my wife thought it meant the one in Tennessee until I pointed out how far away that is.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Mapmikey

Virginia used to have a really good example with US 211 and Washington VA and Washington DC.  Pretty sure signs with both of them on it still exist but US 211 no longer makes it to DC.


lepidopteran

On I-75 NB near Findlay, OH, there used to be a pull-through sign reading "Toledo, Ottawa" (at least I can't seem to find it).  This is because SR-15 multiplexes briefly at that point until it heads west to Ottawa, OH.  But if you stay on I-75 to Detroit, cross over or under the river, then pick up Canada Route 401 to 416, you can make it to the Canadian capital.

sprjus4

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2020, 10:31:09 AM
I suppose this sign on US-17 near New Bern, North Carolina, accurately points the way to both Jacksonville, NC, and Jacksonville, FL, though I'm not sure whether following US-17 south here is necessarily the "best" route to Florida from there. Google Maps suggests it is not, though I suspect if I wanted to make that trip I'd probably head down to either Wilmington or Myrtle Beach before cutting west to I-95.
From that point, continuing west along US-70 to I-95 would be the best routing for that trip.

Similarly, while not the -most- direct route, Washington (NC) is a control city for NB leaving New Bern, one could pass through there on one of the routes bound to Washington, D.C.

briantroutman

This example immediately came to mind–possibly the best example of this phenomenon: On the US 222 freeway between Lancaster and Reading, there's a guide sign for the interchange providing access to both the PA Turnpike (I-76) and local roads to the small borough of Denver, PA.

But coincidentally, if you get on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, continue straight I-80 through the Ohio and Indiana toll roads, and then keep following I-80 across Illinois, Iowa, and Nebraska, you'll eventually get to the other I-76, which terminates another Denver.

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bassoon1986

Quote from: CoreySamson on May 06, 2020, 10:51:43 AM
This sign in Lake Village, Arkansas nearly works. Taking US 82 east not only leads you to Greenville, Mississippi; it's also the fastest way to get to Greenville, South Carolina.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3296628,-91.2934932,3a,26.2y,91.94h,84.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXBRtGyePxshrAs67rPdGjw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I realized that sign also listed Tallulah for MS instead of LA.


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sprjus4

While this exit at US-264 is for Greenville, NC, it's also the fastest route to Greenville, SC from this point.

Additionally, a routing from Washington to Greenville, VA, Greenville, GA, Greenville, MS, Greenville, OH, or Greenville, TX all pass through Greenville, NC.

sparker

Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
There's enough Springfield's around that we could find several cases, I'm sure.

2 for just Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO  (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
-- Coming eb on I-74, it would apply to both IL and OH

EDIT:  I guess both of those are somewhat backwards - in IL, the near location is more "famous" than the away location
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO  (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)

the near location is more "famous" than the away location

Despite your assertion that the nearer one is the one that would more readily come to mind, I still find it interesting.  However, I think the same condition would apply at the western end:  people traveling east wouldn't naturally think of Springfield, IL.

Something tells me that in this day & age the Springfield that most folks would think of is the town where the Simpsons reside (several observers opine that it's Springfield, OR just because it's the nearest one to where creator Matt Groening grew up -- d'oh!).



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