Coronavirus pandemic

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Tonytone on May 09, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 09, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
Question:

What does military aircraft flying overhead have to do with the pandemic?  I've seen a couple of posts now about seeing them, and I don't get the connection.
Apparently the military aircrafts flying above are leaving chemtrials with more "corona virus or another human harming ingredient"


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Chemtrials? What are you, a conspiracy theorist?
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kphoger on May 09, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
Question:

What does military aircraft flying overhead have to do with the pandemic?  I've seen a couple of posts now about seeing them, and I don't get the connection.

About the same thing as when people post pictures of military convoys or tanks loaded onto freight trains.  It's either "chem trails"  or "martial law"  according to most of those posts.  Never mind the fact that if you live near a military base that it is common to see military vehicles of all kinds everyday.  One of the highlights of my day was watching the F18s chase the F5s all over Key West when I lived in the area. 

Tonytone

#3077
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 09, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 09, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
Question:

What does military aircraft flying overhead have to do with the pandemic?  I've seen a couple of posts now about seeing them, and I don't get the connection.
Apparently the military aircrafts flying above are leaving chemtrials with more "corona virus or another human harming ingredient"


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Chemtrials? What are you, a conspiracy theorist?
Naa dude im not the one who came up with this. Nor do I believe it.

Edit: Also Chemtrials are a real thing. Look it up.

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Max Rockatansky

What is amusing to me is that the conspiracy people are still out there when it has been clear from the get go with Virus Time that the Federal Government hasn't been the governing body pushing restrictions.  Most restrictions in the U.S. have come from local, County, and State governments.  Regardless of what anyone thinks of the Federal response it's hard to look at the situation and say that they were the ones pushing for restrictions or maintaining them now.  If anything the varied response has clearly shown that States Rights are definitely still a thing. 

Tonytone

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:20:29 PM
What is amusing to me is that the conspiracy people are still out there when it has been clear from the get go with Virus Time that the Federal Government hasn't been the governing body pushing restrictions.  Most restrictions in the U.S. have come from local, County, and State governments.  Regardless of what anyone thinks of the Federal response it's hard to look at the situation and say that they were the ones pushing for restrictions or maintaining them now.  If anything the varied response has clearly shown that States Rights are definitely still a thing.
Good ol news pushing the narrative & the good ol "˜Mericans not researching shit before they go off.

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Max Rockatansky

Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Tonytone on May 09, 2020, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:20:29 PM
What is amusing to me is that the conspiracy people are still out there when it has been clear from the get go with Virus Time that the Federal Government hasn't been the governing body pushing restrictions.  Most restrictions in the U.S. have come from local, County, and State governments.  Regardless of what anyone thinks of the Federal response it's hard to look at the situation and say that they were the ones pushing for restrictions or maintaining them now.  If anything the varied response has clearly shown that States Rights are definitely still a thing.
Good ol news pushing the narrative & the good ol "˜Mericans not researching shit before they go off.

Classic


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I would probably chalk it more up to a lot of people think someone is always out to get them and will always find a scapegoat to fit their narrative.  The news agencies that feed into that kind of thinking are just catering to a market just like any other demographic. 

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.
Musk really showing his true colors here.
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Max Rockatansky

#3083
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.
Musk really showing his true colors here.

Well it is a business after all.  It probably would be easier to sell moving to Nevada completely or partially to Texas if you can blame a localized ordinance for why you did it.  I'm kind of surprised they actually wanted to operate in California to begin with given how difficult the business climate is here compared to other states.  Granted that giant factory in Nevada needed quite a bit of time to get built. 

Tesla seems to tied completely to the antics of Elon Musk for good or bad.  Some stuff they push for (like Tesla stores as opposed to franchise dealerships) has actually been pretty good whereas others could be considered "questionable."   For such a large company they are surprisingly still almost completely tied to investors pumping in money to keep it afloat.  Shuttering completely in one of your major manufacturing areas in situations like that isn't exactly viable.

Scott5114

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.
Musk really showing his true colors here.

I mean, this is the dipshit trying to name his kid "X Æ A-12", so should anyone really listen to what he wants?
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 09, 2020, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.
Musk really showing his true colors here.

I mean, this is the dipshit trying to name his kid "X Æ A-12", so should anyone really listen to what he wants?

I'm sure the City of Fremont will since Tesla has 10,000 employees there. 

Tonytone

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 09, 2020, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.
Musk really showing his true colors here.

I mean, this is the dipshit trying to name his kid "X Æ A-12", so should anyone really listen to what he wants?
Hey dude not cool. Thats a good name


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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 09, 2020, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2020, 04:25:18 PM
Tesla is apparently threatening to pull out of Alameda County if they don't allow them to resume operations:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-threatens-pull-tesla-172731578.html

The above is interesting because the order affecting Tesla is localized to the Bay Area (including Alameda County).  This is probably biggest company I've seen so far in the Bay Area start speaking out against local stay at home orders.  That said, Elon Musk has had some pretty "interesting"  statements regarding Stay-at-home orders that have made the news the past couple weeks.
Musk really showing his true colors here.

I mean, this is the dipshit trying to name his kid "X Æ A-12", so should anyone really listen to what he wants?
Is that a name or a secret code? And I thought that North West was bad... at least that's a word in the English language (or any language)!
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hbelkins

Quote from: kphoger on May 08, 2020, 03:20:46 PM
I know a man whose own child wouldn't let him into the house after he'd shaved his beard off.  The kid didn't even recognize his own father, thought he was a stranger trying to break in, and refused to open the door.

Sounds like something that happened to me. I've kept a beard pretty much constantly since 1984, when I broke up with a girlfriend who didn't want me to grow one. I've only shaved it a handful of times, mostly when I slipped with the electric trimmer and cut a big gap in it. (And for awhile, I had a goatee, but it was a pain to shave around it, so I grew the whole thing back.) The first Christmas we were married, I decided to shave my beard. My wife of four months had never seen me without it. After I shaved it, I went to the other bathroom where she was getting ready, and she screamed when she saw me because she thought there was a stranger standing behind her.
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And unsurprisingly the City of Fremont comes out with a statement expressing concerns about manufacturing facilities not being allowed to reopen:

http://www.fremont.gov/CivicAlerts/SingleAlertItem?alertID=1768

It wouldn't shock me if suddenly the City of Fremont comes out with a directive stating that manufacturers like Tesla are "essential."   For reference on the State Level manufacturing facilities have been allowed to resume operations.  While what Elon Musk said was nutty it does seem a little strange that the Bay Area hasn't been so willing to really progress into the start of reopening phases.  Alameda County and the Bay Area in general are way past the spike in their case loads.  Oddly none of the six Bay Area counties on a joint order are reporting recovery statistics on COVID cases anymore.  Marin County has reported recoveries at 208 of 257 confirmed cases. 

bandit957

Anyone else remember the bushy Tom Selleck mustaches of the '80s?
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bandit957

For anyone looking for a rare positive development in all this, today had the lowest percentage of positive tests since way back on March 16. This is one of the leading metrics you can use to see if the outbreak is weakening.

Today was 8.57%, which was down from 9.56% yesterday. For comparison, it was 25.42% on April 2.
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bandit957

Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: bandit957 on May 09, 2020, 10:00:45 PM
For anyone looking for a rare positive development in all this, today had the lowest percentage of positive tests since way back on March 16. This is one of the leading metrics you can use to see if the outbreak is weakening.

Today was 8.57%, which was down from 9.56% yesterday. For comparison, it was 25.42% on April 2.
Massachusetts has had declining cases for a few days now, so hopefully we can open up soon.
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bandit957

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 09, 2020, 10:19:05 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on May 09, 2020, 10:00:45 PM
For anyone looking for a rare positive development in all this, today had the lowest percentage of positive tests since way back on March 16. This is one of the leading metrics you can use to see if the outbreak is weakening.

Today was 8.57%, which was down from 9.56% yesterday. For comparison, it was 25.42% on April 2.
Massachusetts has had declining cases for a few days now, so hopefully we can open up soon.

I think most states have been declining for a while, except the ones that get a big outbreak at a meatpacking plant.

There's more testing now, so they discover cases they never would have discovered a month ago.
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Max Rockatansky

Now Tesla has filed a lawsuit against Alameda County under the pretense that they are part of the Federally defined energy sector.  Apparently the City of Fremont all in backing Tesla:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tesla-sues-california-county-over-002227640.html

Interestingly some of the language of the lawsuit could have consequences for other communities in California which have moved further into reopening than the Governor's order.  There is an increasingly large number of cities that have opened things like Barber shops or outright declared all their businesses essential (deferring social distancing standards mostly as part of PPE and safety protocols).  If this actually gets heard this could have an interesting result for the rest of California one way or the other.

LM117

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Quote from: LM117 on May 09, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
The governor of South Dakota ain't happy with the Sioux's checkpoints on US and state roads...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/09/us/south-dakota-sioux-tribes/index.html

That article has been updated. The Cheyenne River Sioux basically told Noem to fuck off.
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bandit957

Quote from: bandit957 on May 09, 2020, 10:04:20 PM
Also, if you estimate the number of new cases today to account for the number of tests, there were 44,224 cases nationwide - the lowest since March 25. This contrasts with the estimated 171,462 new cases on April 9.

Another positive metric: Using a 7-day rolling average, this number has declined by at least 2,972 on each of the past 5 days. If it keeps up at this rate, the number of new cases will be a drop in the bucket within weeks.
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oscar

Quote from: LM117 on May 10, 2020, 06:17:41 AM
Quote from: LM117 on May 09, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
The governor of South Dakota ain't happy with the Sioux's checkpoints on US and state roads...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/09/us/south-dakota-sioux-tribes/index.html

That article has been updated. The Cheyenne River Sioux basically told Noem to fuck off.

Which probably means the dispute with the Governor will escalate. 

You have communities along US 212 west of the reservation that will have a tough time traveling east, without going through the reservation. For example, people in Faith (over 400 people) would have to take a long detour up to US 12 to cross the Missouri River into eastern South Dakota -- and that highway crosses another reservation. The other decent alternate route, SD 73 to SD 34 to Pierre or to I-90, cuts through a corner of the Cheyenne River reservation.

Many of the Cheyenne Sioux communities near US 212 are off the highway on tribal roads, on which the tribe can restrict travel and place checkpoints to keep through travelers from leaving the highway. US 212 cuts through the major community of Eagle Butte, but maybe the tribe can accommodate through travelers with a detour on tribal roads, as part of an agreement with the state.
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LM117

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2020, 09:02:18 AM
Quote from: LM117 on May 10, 2020, 06:17:41 AM
Quote from: LM117 on May 09, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
The governor of South Dakota ain't happy with the Sioux's checkpoints on US and state roads...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/09/us/south-dakota-sioux-tribes/index.html

That article has been updated. The Cheyenne River Sioux basically told Noem to fuck off.

Which probably means the dispute with the Governor will escalate. 

You have communities along US 212 west of the reservation that will have a tough time traveling east, without going through the reservation. For example, people in Faith (over 400 people) would have to take a long detour up to US 12 to cross the Missouri River into eastern South Dakota -- and that highway crosses another reservation. The other decent alternate route, SD 73 to SD 34 to Pierre or to I-90, cuts through a corner of the Cheyenne River reservation.

Many of the Cheyenne Sioux communities near US 212 are off the highway on tribal roads, on which the tribe can restrict travel and place checkpoints to keep through travelers from leaving the highway. US 212 cuts through the major community of Eagle Butte, but maybe the tribe can accommodate through travelers with a detour on tribal roads, as part of an agreement with the state.

The Oglalga Sioux has pretty much given the same response to the governor.

https://www.kotatv.com/content/news/Oglala-Sioux-Tribe-to-Gov-Noem-Your-threats-of-legal-action-are-not-helpful-570346431.html
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