Coronavirus pandemic

[hbelkins]

Two of Kentucky's constitutional statewide elected officers have filed or joined in lawsuits against the governor's executive orders.

The agriculture commissioner joined the owner of an orchard in Scott County in filing a suit because they have been unable to get state guidance on how to reopen their playground and for-rent event venue.

And today, the attorney general is joining a lawsuit filed by three northern Kentucky businesses. In their complaint, the AG is asking that ALL of the governor's executive orders regarding closures or limitations on the number of customers allowed be repealed.

In addition, one state legislator is pre-filing a bill that would require legislative approval of any state of emergency or related executive orders that last longer than two weeks.

It's going to get interesting here. The governor has already lost suits regarding protests and prohibiting in-person church services. At last count, I think he's 0-fer-6 in virus-related suits.

[Max Rockatansky]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

[kphoger]

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as ...

No, I'm sure it doesn't technically count as anything.  Because it doesn't happen, I doubt anyone has made an official ruling on it.

[SectorZ]

0 deaths today in Massachusetts! 

We technically had negative-41 due to some sort of "data correction". They reported "zero" since the overall death count went down due to that correction.

Of course every headline ignored that fact.

[wxfree]

In addition, one state legislator is pre-filing a bill that would require legislative approval of any state of emergency or related executive orders that last longer than two weeks.

This really is the way it should be.  Executives issue emergency orders in emergency times, but when there's a long-term problem, the legislative body should convene and start gathering information and debating how to proceed.  Emergency orders shouldn't be used until the problem is gone.  Restoring normal government doesn't mean that the problem is over, it just means that the slower part of government has had time to catch up.  We can't treat this like a tornado or a flood, a situation that will be over before the legislature can respond.  This is the world now, and government has to adjust.  In states where the legislature isn't in session and can't convene themselves, the governors should be calling special sessions instead of assuming that rule by decree is good enough until the next session.

[bandit957]

This really is the way it should be.  Executives issue emergency orders in emergency times, but when there's a long-term problem, the legislative body should convene and start gathering information and debating how to proceed.  Emergency orders shouldn't be used until the problem is gone.  Restoring normal government doesn't mean that the problem is over, it just means that the slower part of government has had time to catch up.  We can't treat this like a tornado or a flood, a situation that will be over before the legislature can respond.  This is the world now, and government has to adjust.  In states where the legislature isn't in session and can't convene themselves, the governors should be calling special sessions instead of assuming that rule by decree is good enough until the next session.

Basically this. But what's worse than the governor issuing orders unilaterally is when some unelected bureaucrat issues these orders. It's happened in lots of cities and states all over America during this crisis.

A governor at least has more accountability to the people, and is supposed to consider the advice of different advisers.

[kphoger]

We can't treat this like a tornado or a flood, a situation that will be over before the legislature can respond.  This is the world now, and government has to adjust.

Viral epidemics have been "the world now" for decades, at least.  While this one is worse than others in the past, the government mechanism to deal with a weather incident simply shouldn't be the same mechanism that deals with an epidemic.

[Scott5114]

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as ...

No, I'm sure it doesn't technically count as anything.  Because it doesn't happen, I doubt anyone has made an official ruling on it.

As someone who runs a D&D game, I have to make official rulings on things like that all the time... (In this case, I feel like it would depend on the exact spell used and whether the dead person were simply being used as a zombie-like puppet or if they had truly been brought back to life.)

Probably the most hilarious ruling I had to decide was what would happen if someone banished the President of the United States to another plane of existence. (The ruling was that under the text of the Constitution, the president would be unable to discharge the duties and powers of his office from another plane of existence, and therefore the Vice President would become President.)

[Max Rockatansky]

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as ...

No, I'm sure it doesn't technically count as anything.  Because it doesn't happen, I doubt anyone has made an official ruling on it.

I would assume if a dead body was reanimated that at minimum some life functions would resume.  We might call that "undead"  but that would likely falling under the definition of a living organism again. 

[02 Park Ave]

When one passes an UV light over an object to kill off any Virus on it, is that considered illuminating or irradiating the object?

[kalvado]

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as ...

No, I'm sure it doesn't technically count as anything.  Because it doesn't happen, I doubt anyone has made an official ruling on it.

I would assume if a dead body was reanimated that at minimum some life functions would resume.  We might call that "undead"  but that would likely falling under the definition of a living organism again.

Given that plants are alive, it doesn't take a lot of functions to call something alive.
Human death is legally defined in terms of brain activity, and even that is not a clear cut leading to legal battles about bodies in vegetative conditions (with some nasty outcomes)

[kphoger]

In Kansas, a statewide mask order is set to take effect at midnight Friday morning.  It apparently will require the wearing of masks in public areas both indoors and outdoors, but draft language is not yet available, and a number of county commissions (including in Sedgwick County) are exploring whether they have the ability to opt out under an amendment to the state emergency management law that was enacted last month as the result of a compromise between the governor and the legislature.

From what I read, the order won't be published until Thursday–the day before it takes effect.  Supposedly, it won't take effect until Friday in order to give businesses time to prepare, but–considering we don't know what the order says exactly–how will they know how to prepare?  I know my company's HR director has already been in my office and didn't say one word about it.

We asked HR whether we would need to wear masks to work beginning Friday.  She said she won't know till Thursday.  And she's off work both Thursday and Friday, so I guess she'll text us to let us know.   

(Fortunately, we're off Friday as well for the holiday.)

[jeffandnicole]

In Kansas, a statewide mask order is set to take effect at midnight Friday morning.  It apparently will require the wearing of masks in public areas both indoors and outdoors, but draft language is not yet available, and a number of county commissions (including in Sedgwick County) are exploring whether they have the ability to opt out under an amendment to the state emergency management law that was enacted last month as the result of a compromise between the governor and the legislature.

From what I read, the order won't be published until Thursday–the day before it takes effect.  Supposedly, it won't take effect until Friday in order to give businesses time to prepare, but–considering we don't know what the order says exactly–how will they know how to prepare?  I know my company's HR director has already been in my office and didn't say one word about it.

We asked HR whether we would need to wear masks to work beginning Friday.  She said she won't know till Thursday.  And she's off work both Thursday and Friday, so I guess she'll text us to let us know.   

(Fortunately, we're off Friday as well for the holiday.)

Sounds like people will do whatever they can do to make an easy situation difficult.

Masks?  What masks?  What kind of masks?  Where do we need to specifically where the masks?  Do we need to where them here?  Or here?  Or here?  Or here?  What exceptions will there be?  What if I'm walking in the hallway? Or in my office?  Or in the parking garage?  What if?  What if? What if?

This whole situation would be mostly under control if people didn't hunt down 99 exceptions to an easy concept.

[J N Winkler]

Sounds like people will do whatever they can do to make an easy situation difficult.

Masks?  What masks?  What kind of masks?  Where do we need to specifically where the masks?  Do we need to where them here?  Or here?  Or here?  Or here?  What exceptions will there be?  What if I'm walking in the hallway? Or in my office?  Or in the parking garage?  What if?  What if? What if?

Not to worry.  Our local elected officials have the situation under control, having just approved a $21,000 $80,000 line item for chiller space to store dead bodies.

Edit:  Added link and corrected dollar amount.

[SSOWorld]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

[Max Rockatansky]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

Yes, but not everyone has access to the Genesis Planet. 

[RobbieL2415]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

Yes, but not everyone has access to the Genesis Planet.

GEN-I-SIS???

[US71]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

Yes, but not everyone has access to the Genesis Planet. 

Or Gaiilfreyan bioloigy

[SectorZ]

When one passes an UV light over an object to kill off any Virus on it, is that considered illuminating or irradiating the object?

All light is electromagnetic radiation, so you can never go wrong with irradiating...

[Max Rockatansky]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

Yes, but not everyone has access to the Genesis Planet.

GEN-I-SIS???

Does what Nintendon't. 

[Max Rockatansky]

One day Finland had -1 (negative one) covid deaths.

I can only assume that someone woke up down in the morgue.  But, because that death had already been recorded on a previous day, it had to be removed from the current day's tally instead.

More likely a death that had previously been recorded as COVID was redesignated as not-COVID related on a day where there were no other COVID deaths to subtract it from.

Oh, come on!  You think they'd admit they made a mistake without someone waking up in the morgue?

Does being reanimated as undead technically count as -1 fatality?  Seriously that sounds the start of almost every zombie movie over the last two decades.   

Yes, but not everyone has access to the Genesis Planet. 

Or Gaiilfreyan bioloigy

I thought the Doctor was way past the number of regenerations he/she could have?  Did they ever actually give explanation for that in the show?

[wxfree]

Big Bend National Park is closing again.  The county now has 136 cases, with hundreds of tests pending.  This is in a very rural area.  They're in the top 20 counties nationally for spread per capita.  There's now a positive case in the park, someone who lives there.  Public entry will be closed tomorrow.  They aren't allowing backcountry camping right now and have only one campground open, so it should be easy to find everyone staying in the park.  The news release doesn't say whether they'll be allowed to stay until they leave or will be sent away immediately.

https://www.nps.gov/bibe/learn/news/bbnp-closed-2020-07-01.htm

[Max Rockatansky]

Big Bend National Park is closing again.  The county now has 136 cases, with hundreds of tests pending.  This is in a very rural area.  They're in the top 20 counties nationally for spread per capita.  There's now a positive case in the park, someone who lives there.  Public entry will be closed tomorrow.  They aren't allowing backcountry camping right now and have only one campground open, so it should be easy to find everyone staying in the park.  The news release doesn't say whether they'll be allowed to stay until they leave or will be sent away immediately.

https://www.nps.gov/bibe/learn/news/bbnp-closed-2020-07-01.htm

Looks like it's because the Park Staff popped up with a bunch of infections.  This is part of the reason why National Forests have been such a reprieve for all this virus stuff, they have way less manpower and visitors largely are on their own. 

[Revive 755]

Or Gaiilfreyan bioloigy

I thought the Doctor was way past the number of regenerations he/she could have?  Did they ever actually give explanation for that in the show?

The Doctor got a new set of regenerations in the last Matt Smith special.

[STLmapboy]

Found a Corona beer distribution truck in March 2020 Miami GSV:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@25.7736435,-80.3206657,3a,75y,239.18h,77.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8r2MJ7n-Gcbh2DkrIr5Olw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192