Trips "within" a country that take you out of the country.

[DandyDan]

The optimal route, according to Google Maps, for going from Fort Frances, ON to Winnipeg, MB has you enter the US at Baudette, MN and leave the US north of Warroad, MN.

[Roadgeekteen]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

[kphoger]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

As mentioned in the first reply to the OP.

[Flint1979]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

As mentioned in the first reply to the OP.

In that post though it's called Port Roberts instead of Point Roberts lol.

[webny99]

I would most certainly stay within the United States if I was traveling elsewhere in the United States regardless of how much longer it would take me. If I was going from Detroit to Buffalo I'd suck up the extra 100 miles and drive on the south side of Lake Erie rather than having to deal with customs twice and then the long delays at the border at times would probably make that extra 100 miles seem like nothing.

This is very much a matter of personal preference, it really depends how big of a deal crossing the border is to you. I can tell you from experience that 95% of the time, going through Canada will be faster, often significantly so. I would never have even considered going through Ohio to get to Michigan before the border closed. But then, I'm a NEXUS cardholder, and used to cross the border around once or twice a month before the pandemic hit.

[webny99]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

Not quite. Anywhere in the US.

[kphoger]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

Not quite. Anywhere in the US.

The topic is 'Trips "within" a country...', so wouldn't that be implied?

[Roadgeekteen]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

Not quite. Anywhere in the US.

The topic is 'Trips "within" a country...', so wouldn't that be implied?

Maybe, maybe not. I should have wrote rest of US.

[michravera]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

Not quite. Anywhere in the US.

The topic is 'Trips "within" a country...', so wouldn't that be implied?

Maybe, maybe not. I should have wrote rest of US.

Doesn't one have to go through Canada (or Canadian waters or airspace) to get from Point Roberts to anywhere that isn't considered a part of Point Roberts?

[kphoger]

Also, Point Roberts to anywhere.

Not quite. Anywhere in the US.

The topic is 'Trips "within" a country...', so wouldn't that be implied?

Maybe, maybe not. I should have wrote rest of US.

Doesn't one have to go through Canada (or Canadian waters or airspace) to get from Point Roberts to anywhere that isn't considered a part of Point Roberts?

Good point.  No matter where you go from Point Roberts–whether to the US or elsewhere–your journey will necessarily take you out of the country.

[JREwing78]

Winnipeg to Toronto (and anywhere in ON west of there). The quickest route according to Google involves crossing into the US at Pembina, using the Lake Express ferry between Milwaukee and Muskegon, and crossing back into Canada at the Blue Water Bridge.

Google assumes that you've timed your ferry perfectly, of course. Otherwise, it's a 20 minute difference in favor going through the U.P. v.s. going through Chicago. Unless there was significant snowfall predicted in Michigan, da U.P. wins.

But you're only saving an hour and a half leaving Canada at all (per Google) - and you'll eat much of that time up at the border crossings. If Ontario ever completes 4-laning Hwy 17 and bumps it to a 110 or 120 km/h speed limit, that time difference would evaporate.

From Vancouver to Toronto, one would cross into the US at Blaine, remaining in the US (via I-5, I-405, I-90, I-94, the Lake Express Ferry, I-96, I-69, and then I-94 again) until crossing back into Canada at the Blue Water Bridge.

There's no good way to get across the Canadian Rockies quickly, and that will remain the case even when a complete 4-lane connection to Vancouver from Calgary is completed. Once you reach Calgary, the Trans-Canada is 4-laned and posted for 110 km/h (68 mph) until you hit the Ontario border, so you make good time on that stretch.

Then you hit the Ontario border. You spend nearly as much time on 2-lanes in Ontario as on 4-lanes in Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba, and the fastest you can go on any of it is 90 km/h (56 mph) until Sudbury or North Bay. And yes, all roads lead through Thunder Bay and Nipigon - but at least there's two bridges in Nipigon now. 4-laning Hwy 11 or 17 across Ontario can't happen fast enough, though I doubt I'll see that accomplished in my lifetime.