When did the cloverleaf fall out of fashion?

Started by CapeCodder, June 07, 2020, 09:37:45 PM

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Kulerage

Wish I could tell you. They're still built pretty regularly in NC.


kphoger

As stated by sprjus4.

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 09, 2020, 04:03:25 AM
A few in North Carolina in the past couple decades -
- I-95 / I-795 / US-264 (C/D roads on I-95) - around 2006
- US-264 / NC-11 Bypass - 2019
- US-70 / US-17 (only partially in use, stub on north side) - around 2012
- I-95 / I-74 (C/D roads on I-95) - around 2008
- US-1 / US-421 (C/D roads on US-421) - around 2008
- I-85 / I-73 (C/D roads on both) - around 2006
- I-85 / US-421 (C/D roads on both, one flyover) - around 2006

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Male pronouns, please.

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D-Dey65

I recently found out that the Town of Brookhaven did something really dumb with an interchange on NY 27. They installed the entrance to a park on the on-ramp from Suffolk CR 51 to the eastbound NY 27 service road. As if building an intersection too close to a ramp doesn't already increase the risk of accidents, and renders cloverleafs more dysfunctional.
https://goo.gl/maps/yRCpL9phJZpsUmAD6



jakeroot

Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2020, 09:25:51 PM
I recently found out that the Town of Brookhaven did something really dumb with an interchange on NY 27. They installed the entrance to a park on the on-ramp from Suffolk CR 51 to the eastbound NY 27 service road. As if building an intersection too close to a ramp doesn't already increase the risk of accidents, and renders cloverleafs more dysfunctional.
https://goo.gl/maps/yRCpL9phJZpsUmAD6

Huh? That's just a frontage road. There's thousands of examples of businesses built with entrances to frontage roads.

D-Dey65

Quote from: jakeroot on August 18, 2020, 12:25:44 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2020, 09:25:51 PM
I recently found out that the Town of Brookhaven did something really dumb with an interchange on NY 27. They installed the entrance to a park on the on-ramp from Suffolk CR 51 to the eastbound NY 27 service road. As if building an intersection too close to a ramp doesn't already increase the risk of accidents, and renders cloverleafs more dysfunctional.
https://goo.gl/maps/yRCpL9phJZpsUmAD6

Huh? That's just a frontage road. There's thousands of examples of businesses built with entrances to frontage roads.
Actually, that's a partial cloverleaf.


GaryV

Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 18, 2020, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 18, 2020, 12:25:44 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2020, 09:25:51 PM
I recently found out that the Town of Brookhaven did something really dumb with an interchange on NY 27. They installed the entrance to a park on the on-ramp from Suffolk CR 51 to the eastbound NY 27 service road. As if building an intersection too close to a ramp doesn't already increase the risk of accidents, and renders cloverleafs more dysfunctional.
https://goo.gl/maps/yRCpL9phJZpsUmAD6

Huh? That's just a frontage road. There's thousands of examples of businesses built with entrances to frontage roads.
Actually, that's a partial cloverleaf.

It's a partial cloverleaf that exits/enters a service road.

The park entrance is on the service road.  The exit ramp to the west of the park ends at the cross street; it has a stop sign. If you go straight through you're on the service road. The loop ramp never touches the service road.

kphoger

Quote from: GaryV on August 18, 2020, 12:51:46 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 18, 2020, 11:11:18 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on August 18, 2020, 12:25:44 AM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2020, 09:25:51 PM
I recently found out that the Town of Brookhaven did something really dumb with an interchange on NY 27. They installed the entrance to a park on the on-ramp from Suffolk CR 51 to the eastbound NY 27 service road. As if building an intersection too close to a ramp doesn't already increase the risk of accidents, and renders cloverleafs more dysfunctional.
https://goo.gl/maps/yRCpL9phJZpsUmAD6

Huh? That's just a frontage road. There's thousands of examples of businesses built with entrances to frontage roads.
Actually, that's a partial cloverleaf.

It's a partial cloverleaf that exits/enters a service road.

The park entrance is on the service road.  The exit ramp to the west of the park ends at the cross street; it has a stop sign. If you go straight through you're on the service road. The loop ramp never touches the service road.

Agreed.  The park access lies between a stop sign and a stoplight.  Hardly "something really dumb".

Exiting traffic to CH-51 SB would not drive past that entrance.
Exiting traffic to CH-51 NB would not drive past that entrance.
Exiting traffic to CH-55 would not drive past that entrance.
Entering traffic from CH-55 would not drive past that entrance.
Entering traffic from CH-51 would drive past that entrance, but that's no more "dumb" than their also having to go through a stoplight at CH-55.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.