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Freeway signs with the names of control cities that are already within that city

Started by KCRoadFan, August 30, 2020, 12:13:35 AM

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doorknob60

Not a freeway, but this sign on ID-55/Eagle Rd is in Boise city limits, and points you to turn right onto US-20/26 (Chinden) to get to Boise. Doing so will actually take you out of Boise into Garden City, going through the full length of Garden City, before re-entering Boise west of downtown. I imagine the reason this sign is here though, is because you're ~9 miles from downtown Boise, and most people probably think they're in Meridian here.


GSV Link

Here's a more traditional example on I-84 in Portland. It's well within city limits by this point. It appears that the ramps technically clip into Maywood Park for a short time though.

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PHLBOS

Quote from: Mr. Matté on August 30, 2020, 06:43:55 PM
At its eastern end, NJ 133 is signed for East Windsor, even though the entire highway is in said township and at this point, about 1/3 of the population of E.W. is behind you. (to say nothing about the ugly new Clearview-like typeface on only the 133 sign)

Actually, that font looks more like Series D* than Clearview.

*Variation uses a better looking IMHO lower-case s than the current FHWA Series D.

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Boston:

US 1 southbound as it approaches I-93 southbound at the City Square Tunnel

I-90 eastbound at the Allston-Brighton-Cambridge interchange

Philadelphia:

I-95 northbound at the actual Exit 13 split with the original 1985-vintage Philadelphia pull-through sign
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zzcarp

The south terminus of I-225 at I-25 is within the Denver city limits (in what is known as the Denver tech center), and I-25 north is signed for Denver. This location is roughly 10 miles southeast of downtown.
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DTComposer

Quote from: Occidental Tourist on August 30, 2020, 02:09:20 AM
So many signs within Los Angeles's city limits list Los Angeles as the control city.  These include signs on the 2, 5, 10, 47, 60, 91, 101, 105, 110, 118, 134, 170 and 405 freeways

Long Beach is also listed within its city limits on both I-710 and for the CA-22 West exits from I-405 and I-605.

webny99

Quote from: vdeane on August 31, 2020, 09:57:27 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 31, 2020, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 30, 2020, 12:13:35 AM
(To be clear, these are for signs that mention only the name of the city, without the word "Downtown" or any similar qualifiers or modifiers.)

Welp, I guess this doesn't count then. But it is within the Rochester city limits.
Maybe not, but this does!

Wow, good point. I can't believe I forgot about that one.

I'd love to see new signage for this entire interchange, and if I had my way, "Downtown" would be abolished, and there would be control cities for NY/I-590, preferably Irondequoit NB and either Brighton or Henrietta SB.

KCRoadFan

Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 30, 2020, 12:41:16 PM
This sign is in Springfield city limits, near the southeast edge.

Because that sign is north of the US 60 junction, I think it should say "65 NORTH / TO 44" .

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Scott5114

Quote from: PHLBOS on September 01, 2020, 05:15:30 PM
Actually, that font looks more like Series D* than Clearview.

*Variation uses a better looking IMHO lower-case s than the current FHWA Series D.

That would be "chocolate" Series D.
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KCRoadFan

Quote from: I-55 on August 31, 2020, 09:54:45 PM
In Nashville, any interstate to interstate interchange involving I-440 used Nashville as the control city for the interstate headed into downtown.

I-465 in Indy does the same for the exits to I-65 and I-70 inbound.

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Occidental Tourist

Quote from: DTComposer on September 01, 2020, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on August 30, 2020, 02:09:20 AM
So many signs within Los Angeles's city limits list Los Angeles as the control city.  These include signs on the 2, 5, 10, 47, 60, 91, 101, 105, 110, 118, 134, 170 and 405 freeways

Long Beach is also listed within its city limits on both I-710 and for the CA-22 West exits from I-405 and I-605.

The exits to CA 22 from both the 405 north and the 605 south are located in Seal Beach.  You don't cross into the Long Beach city limits until the 22 crosses over the San Gabriel River.  The exit from the 405 south (which has advance signs that are within city limits) doesn't list Long Beach as a control city, just 7th Street.

Theoretically one of the advance signs on the 605 south might be within city limits where the boundary dips into the middle of the 605 freeway for a small portion just south of Willow St.   Otherwise, the freeway in that section is entirely within unincorporated OC or Seal Beach.

bing101

US-50 West at the California State University, Sacramento Campus area has US-50 West Sacramento and CA-160 Sacramento at the CA-51 interchange. This is due to the control city is aiming for the Downtown area where the I-5 @ US-50/I-305 interchange meet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Maze


Macarthur maze in Oakland has I-580 east to Downtown Oakland but that was from the early 1990's  when I-880 didn't have direct access to Downtown Oakland and the Port of Oakland due to the fallout of the Loma Prieta Quake.

theline

There are many examples in the South Bend area, involving both the Indiana Toll Road and the St. Joseph Valley Parkway. In most cases the interchange was originally outside the city limits but the limits were later extended.

A few examples inside South Bend's city limits:
Inside Elkhart's limits, a ramp from SJVP to US-33: https://goo.gl/maps/UJ3By88y5zHRAKTw7

bing101

I-780 West for Vallejo and I-780 East for Benicia are the control cities for this freeway.

Note There was an article indicating that I-780 was supposed to go to Mare Island as Waterfront Freeway aiming for Downtown Vallejo and Mare Island is why there is a control city for Vallejo within the city limits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_780

bing101

Quote from: Occidental Tourist on August 30, 2020, 02:09:20 AM
So many signs within Los Angeles's city limits list Los Angeles as the control city.  These include signs on the 2, 5, 10, 47, 60, 91, 101, 105, 110, 118, 134, 170 and 405 freeways


Gotta be DTLA as the reference here is why LA has freeways with itself as the control city.

DTComposer

Quote from: Occidental Tourist on September 05, 2020, 01:02:38 AM
Quote from: DTComposer on September 01, 2020, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on August 30, 2020, 02:09:20 AM
So many signs within Los Angeles's city limits list Los Angeles as the control city.  These include signs on the 2, 5, 10, 47, 60, 91, 101, 105, 110, 118, 134, 170 and 405 freeways

Long Beach is also listed within its city limits on both I-710 and for the CA-22 West exits from I-405 and I-605.

The exits to CA 22 from both the 405 north and the 605 south are located in Seal Beach.  You don't cross into the Long Beach city limits until the 22 crosses over the San Gabriel River.  The exit from the 405 south (which has advance signs that are within city limits) doesn't list Long Beach as a control city, just 7th Street.

Theoretically one of the advance signs on the 605 south might be within city limits where the boundary dips into the middle of the 605 freeway for a small portion just south of Willow St.   Otherwise, the freeway in that section is entirely within unincorporated OC or Seal Beach.

You are right re: the exits from I-405 northbound and I-605 southbound, and I stand corrected. The L.A. County/L.B. City Limit signs on CA-22 over the San Gabriel River should have been a prominent memory for me (as they meant I was almost home).

For I-405 southbound: the advance signs used to have CA-22/7th Street/Long Beach, but looking at StreetView I see they were replaced around the same time I moved away.

amroad17

Technically, at this point you are in the Cincinnati Corporate Limits (Ohio speak), even though you are still 10 miles from the downtown area.

https://goo.gl/maps/kWKancDhtz3JYf2m8
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bing101

I-280 when it enters Santa Clara County there is a Control City for San Jose even though they are Inside the San Jose city limits and parts of US-101 has San Jose as the control city until it hits the I-280, I-680 and US-101 interchange the control city changes to Sacramento for I-680 North or I-280 South and US-101 reads Los Angeles for the Southbound and US-101 north San Francisco and I-280 North would read San Jose.

DTComposer

Quote from: bing101 on September 07, 2020, 11:45:16 PM
I-280 when it enters Santa Clara County there is a Control City for San Jose even though they are Inside the San Jose city limits and parts of US-101 has San Jose as the control city until it hits the I-280, I-680 and US-101 interchange the control city changes to Sacramento for I-680 North or I-280 South and US-101 reads Los Angeles for the Southbound and US-101 north San Francisco and I-280 North would read San Jose.

I'm not sure this is true:

- On US-101 northbound, the first BGS with pull-thru is at CA-85, and US-101 has San Francisco as the control city.

- At the US-101/I-280/I-680 junction, the control city for I-280 is *Downtown* San Jose (which would disqualify it based on the OP).

- On I-280 southbound, once you enter San Jose itself I don't think a BGS with control city is used until the I-880/CA-17 junction, at which point the control city is again *Downtown* San Jose.

JustDrive

Both US 101 NB and CA 126 WB have "Ventura"  as a control city within Ventura city limits. In fact, Santa Barbara/San Francisco aren't seen until west of the 101/126 interchange.

SB CA 33 also has "Ventura"  as a control city at the Stanley Avenue interchange. And EB 134 has "210 East Pasadena"  at the BGS at the Arroyo Seco bridge

KCRoadFan

Judging by the last 7 replies, it seems like this phenomenon is very common in California.

KCRoadFan


dvferyance

Milwaukee is used as the control city for I-94 EB in the zoo interchange which is just inside the Milwaukee city limits. The control for WI-30 at I-39/90/94 is Madison also within the Madison city limits.

webny99

Quote from: webny99 on September 01, 2020, 10:19:02 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 31, 2020, 09:57:27 PM
... this does!
Wow, good point. I can't believe I forgot about that one.

Just realized that this example is significant for another reason: the city line sign and the overhead sign for Rochester are both visible at once, as seen here. How about that!  :thumbsup:


achilles765

On IH 10 heading west into Houston, Houston is the control city all the way to almost the IH 610 loop even though "Houston"  arguably begins back at Crosby-Lynchburg Road. The other freeways use downtown  as control point from Beltway 8 until reaching downtown.
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