Places that have extremely old signals

[CJResotko]

Warren, PA

[jakeroot]

Warren, PA

The visors on a few of those lenses are just hilarious

[cpzilliacus]

Along the PA-54 corridor west of I-81.

Ashland, Pennsylvania.

Also Ashland.

Mahanoy City, Pennsylvania.

Also Mahanoy City.

And Mahanoy City.

[STLmapboy]

Here's an old assembly in Minden, LA.
An identical one a few blocks away.

[US71]

All the old 4-ways in Hugo, Oklahoma have been replaced,  Looking at GSV, it was sometime after 2016.

[UnumProvident101]

there used to be a 4-way traffic light at the intersection of Bennett Road at Greens Lake Road in East Ridge, Tennessee but it was replaced in the 2000s but it was there in the 1990s but there isn't any picture available of what it looked like

[US71]

Here's an old assembly in Minden, LA.
An identical one a few blocks away.

These are what replaced the signals in Hugo.

[KopperKangaroo]

Here's an old signal with at least some functioning pedestrian signals in Highland Park, MI. Most of the older signals in Detroit are long gone, however.

[thenetwork]

I happened to watch a couple of episodes of "Police Women (Of Cincinnati)" on Amazon Prime, and was surprised at the number of old signals the city still has, including Text-only Pedestrian Walk/Don't Walk signals, incandescent bulb lights (non-LED) and the number of signals that go into flash mode in the evening/overnight hours. 

Of course, much of the show's footage is centered around the not-so-great parts of the town,  so modernization may be on a slower pace there.

[US71]

There's a body shop near Trumann, AR that has an old signal

[CoreySamson]

Here's what I believe is the oldest remaining signal in Brazoria County...
Wilkins @ Downing, Angleton, TX

[hwyfan]

A pair of old ones in Newark, DE!

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6747763,-75.7566509,3a,75y,279.18h,84.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIebqGuIxldetK0ivam0KLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There are also several around the greater area especially in the Christiana region.  It's not at all uncommon to see lights like this hanging from crossed wires over the street.

Those particular signals on Park Place in Newark were installed in the early 1990's.  They previously were 12"-8"-8" Eagle four ways.

[seicer]

Norwood, Ohio had a bunch of them at one point. GSV picked up a bunch of them before they were replaced. Some were so dingy with incandescent bulbs that you could barely make out the light!

https://goo.gl/maps/GgB4G9pwKaX1QMUy6
https://goo.gl/maps/6G9Ep9y7GZe45UWM7
https://goo.gl/maps/WXy8uaYGfQu2Z57D7
https://goo.gl/maps/ZtKR5z5VNDyp3FyX8 - flip to the newer GSV to see the "upgrade!"

Of interest is this old signal ( https://goo.gl/maps/xNEE9qZ2TuVzaTBE7 ) that was replaced with two heavier units that caused the whole span to sag ( https://goo.gl/maps/1eAuAXq7q87VQtrJ8 ) which led to just one unit remaining ( https://goo.gl/maps/DzKc2uRA5L1YuWCr9 ).

[jjakucyk]

I happened to watch a couple of episodes of "Police Women (Of Cincinnati)" on Amazon Prime, and was surprised at the number of old signals the city still has, including Text-only Pedestrian Walk/Don't Walk signals, incandescent bulb lights (non-LED) and the number of signals that go into flash mode in the evening/overnight hours. 

Of course, much of the show's footage is centered around the not-so-great parts of the town,  so modernization may be on a slower pace there.

When it was filmed in 2010/2011 that was definitely the case, but the city had already started a massive modernizing project by then.  There's sadly very little of that sort of stuff left anymore, but there is some.  I documented a lot of it a decade ago, here's some of the more interesting ones:  http://www.jjakucyk.com/transit/lights/ 

The few places I can think of that still have old signals are downtown at Court and Race, Race and 9th, and 9th and Sycamore. I think there's a few intersections around OTR and the West End that have some old signals, but those are being whittled away too.  Sadly all the good signals in Norwood and Lockland are gone (there's still old signs to be found around there), and one lonely Crouse-Hinds beacon remains in St. Bernard at Mitchell and Bertus though with a new LED lamp.

[plain]

The few places I can think of that still have old signals are downtown at... 9th and Sycamore...

Wow they even have both the old ONE-WAY signs and the old street blades here.

Image from GSV





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[STLmapboy]

Norwood, Ohio had a bunch of them at one point. GSV picked up a bunch of them before they were replaced. Some were so dingy with incandescent bulbs that you could barely make out the light!

https://goo.gl/maps/GgB4G9pwKaX1QMUy6
https://goo.gl/maps/6G9Ep9y7GZe45UWM7
https://goo.gl/maps/WXy8uaYGfQu2Z57D7
https://goo.gl/maps/ZtKR5z5VNDyp3FyX8 - flip to the newer GSV to see the "upgrade!"

Of interest is this old signal ( https://goo.gl/maps/xNEE9qZ2TuVzaTBE7 ) that was replaced with two heavier units that caused the whole span to sag ( https://goo.gl/maps/1eAuAXq7q87VQtrJ8 ) which led to just one unit remaining ( https://goo.gl/maps/DzKc2uRA5L1YuWCr9 ).

Regarding Norwood...check this out.

[jjakucyk]

Regarding Norwood...check this out.

They just replaced all those with 8" signals, and a couple of 8-12-12 setups for the arrows.  It's really something to behold. 

https://youtu.be/ow6GdQnPQFs

[seicer]

Was that a ... quack?

[seicer]

Then you have Elmwood Place, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/797kfHBUSjjqDUB46 (are the colors flipped?)

Portsmouth, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/AvhpLez7KyYPtzwTA
https://goo.gl/maps/8SqZBS2ANd69CzvHA (not that old, from an earlier renewal project but are fading fast)

New Boston, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/qukZEwskDhLpwoC4A
https://goo.gl/maps/kPNp7bj1Rdk1DrzE9
https://goo.gl/maps/N3tPyMm9hAJKTmdv7
https://goo.gl/maps/Dkkt7i167HGpHwPK6
https://goo.gl/maps/CfVnSAEB7jddA3bu6
https://goo.gl/maps/2WwKGfoCfbKAqxbc9

Sciotoville, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/2GsJjFbWABHoe2d96 (some now replaced)

Ironton, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/ZMejSPovApE3uM3q7
https://goo.gl/maps/egQbRUFJgiRhU5yQA

Chesapeake, Ohio:

https://goo.gl/maps/Rh2AMo9aQ3RDWG798 - Nice collection of 12-8-8's with a light randomly missing and another almost completely missing
https://goo.gl/maps/vtbuHMsdivvm7y1f8 - Left turn on red with caution

[mrsman]

Norwood, Ohio had a bunch of them at one point. GSV picked up a bunch of them before they were replaced. Some were so dingy with incandescent bulbs that you could barely make out the light!

https://goo.gl/maps/GgB4G9pwKaX1QMUy6
https://goo.gl/maps/6G9Ep9y7GZe45UWM7
https://goo.gl/maps/WXy8uaYGfQu2Z57D7
https://goo.gl/maps/ZtKR5z5VNDyp3FyX8 - flip to the newer GSV to see the "upgrade!"

Of interest is this old signal ( https://goo.gl/maps/xNEE9qZ2TuVzaTBE7 ) that was replaced with two heavier units that caused the whole span to sag ( https://goo.gl/maps/1eAuAXq7q87VQtrJ8 ) which led to just one unit remaining ( https://goo.gl/maps/DzKc2uRA5L1YuWCr9 ).

The doghouses in the third link are ugly.  The only clean ways for a 8-8-8-12-12 signal are in tower format or a MD style doghouse where the 8-8-8 is stacked neatly on the right and the 12-12 on the left.  It just seems wrong to have the left side dangle under like it does in the picture.

Can you explain what is going on in the fourth link?  Why does the side street not have a signal face?  Also, what is the upgrade, I don't see a difference between the two GSVs?

For the last example, it also seems odd that they allowed a replacement signal with only one signal face.  I see that the sag is the reason, but it is a problem that there is only one signal face in each direction.

[jjakucyk]

Can you explain what is going on in the fourth link?  Why does the side street not have a signal face?  Also, what is the upgrade, I don't see a difference between the two GSVs?

The 2011 view shows the old/historic 8" signals, which by 2019 had been replaced with mismatched 12" units.  My video from a couple weeks ago show that they were replaced again with 8" signals, excepting the 8-12-12 units with arrows.  This is an offset intersection with Elm coming in as a one-way from the east.  It's treated as a single intersection though, which is why there's only signals facing southbound Section/Allison at "west" Elm and not at "east" Elm.  After southbound Section/Allison gets a red, northbound/eastbound Allison gets a green so there's no conflict from southbound traffic clearing the intersection before "east" Elm gets its green.  It's sort of like split-phasing. 

For the last example, it also seems odd that they allowed a replacement signal with only one signal face.

They didn't.  If you pan around a bit you can see the hanger and bare wire for the second signal cluster.  Looks like Google just happened by after it was certainly hit by a truck but before they got the replacement up. 

[plain]

Norwood, Ohio had a bunch of them at one point. GSV picked up a bunch of them before they were replaced. Some were so dingy with incandescent bulbs that you could barely make out the light!

https://goo.gl/maps/GgB4G9pwKaX1QMUy6
https://goo.gl/maps/6G9Ep9y7GZe45UWM7
https://goo.gl/maps/WXy8uaYGfQu2Z57D7
https://goo.gl/maps/ZtKR5z5VNDyp3FyX8 - flip to the newer GSV to see the "upgrade!"

Of interest is this old signal ( https://goo.gl/maps/xNEE9qZ2TuVzaTBE7 ) that was replaced with two heavier units that caused the whole span to sag ( https://goo.gl/maps/1eAuAXq7q87VQtrJ8 ) which led to just one unit remaining ( https://goo.gl/maps/DzKc2uRA5L1YuWCr9 ).

The doghouses in the third link are ugly.  The only clean ways for a 8-8-8-12-12 signal are in tower format or a MD style doghouse where the 8-8-8 is stacked neatly on the right and the 12-12 on the left.  It just seems wrong to have the left side dangle under like it does in the picture.

They kinda remind me of that episode of Family Guy when Quagmire is told by Peter he can watch all the porn he wants on the internet for free..

[bassoon1986]

Not sure how old these actually are but...

Minden, LA
Not too many single four-ways (not sure what the technical name is) in Louisiana anymore

https://goo.gl/maps/RcyfrFm96o5apueu8

Shreveport, LA
I keep finding the old green light fixtures and small lights every time I go home to Shreveport.

https://goo.gl/maps/jwDp7R85vMG4YFn79


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[roadfro]

Can you explain what is going on in the fourth link?  Why does the side street not have a signal face?  Also, what is the upgrade, I don't see a difference between the two GSVs?

The 2011 view shows the old/historic 8" signals, which by 2019 had been replaced with mismatched 12" units.  My video from a couple weeks ago show that they were replaced again with 8" signals, excepting the 8-12-12 units with arrows.  This is an offset intersection with Elm coming in as a one-way from the east.  It's treated as a single intersection though, which is why there's only signals facing southbound Section/Allison at "west" Elm and not at "east" Elm.  After southbound Section/Allison gets a red, northbound/eastbound Allison gets a green so there's no conflict from southbound traffic clearing the intersection before "east" Elm gets its green.  It's sort of like split-phasing. 

For the last example, it also seems odd that they allowed a replacement signal with only one signal face.

They didn't.  If you pan around a bit you can see the hanger and bare wire for the second signal cluster.  Looks like Google just happened by after it was certainly hit by a truck but before they got the replacement up.

Seems a bit complex for what appears to be a mostly residential intersection. Is the signal even needed?

[jjakucyk]

Seems a bit complex for what appears to be a mostly residential intersection. Is the signal even needed?

From a traffic volume standpoint, probably not, though it is right next to a high school so maybe they get bursts from time to time.  It'd probably work fine with Allison/Section having priority and Elm having stop signs.