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Started by hotdogPi, January 14, 2021, 08:05:34 AM

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hbelkins

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no direct road access between them.

That's not totally true. Due to the changes in the Mississippi River over the years, there are some spots of Kentucky that are isolated from the rest of the state by the river, and you access them by land from Missouri. I actually saw photos from one of them not long ago. I'm thinking Jake Bear posted them on Facebook, but could be mistaken.

I understand what you mean by "no direct road access" but there are places you can access Kentucky from Missouri via road.
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kphoger

Quote from: hbelkins on January 21, 2021, 03:43:32 PM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no direct road access between them.

That's not totally true. Due to the changes in the Mississippi River over the years, there are some spots of Kentucky that are isolated from the rest of the state by the river, and you access them by land from Missouri. I actually saw photos from one of them not long ago. I'm thinking Jake Bear posted them on Facebook, but could be mistaken.

I understand what you mean by "no direct road access" but there are places you can access Kentucky from Missouri via road.

I know I posted a location or two, but it will take forever to look up that post...

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kphoger

Well, at any rate...  Wolf Island, Kentucky.

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Male pronouns, please.

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ethanhopkin14

Quote from: hbelkins on January 21, 2021, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no direct road access between them.

That's not totally true. Due to the changes in the Mississippi River over the years, there are some spots of Kentucky that are isolated from the rest of the state by the river, and you access them by land from Missouri. I actually saw photos from one of them not long ago. I'm thinking Jake Bear posted them on Facebook, but could be mistaken.

I understand what you mean by "no direct road access" but there are places you can access Kentucky from Missouri via road.

MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border, albeit a few cut off meanders of old riverbeds.

Fixed?

kphoger

For anyone interested, here is the 1870 Supreme Court case that decided which state the island belongs to.  Judging by the syllabus, it seems the Mississippi River flowed on both sides of the island when Kentucky was admitted as a State, yet the boundary was defined at the time to be the middle of the river.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kphoger

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 04:45:48 PM

Quote from: hbelkins on January 21, 2021, 03:43:32 PM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no direct road access between them.

That's not totally true. Due to the changes in the Mississippi River over the years, there are some spots of Kentucky that are isolated from the rest of the state by the river, and you access them by land from Missouri. I actually saw photos from one of them not long ago. I'm thinking Jake Bear posted them on Facebook, but could be mistaken.

I understand what you mean by "no direct road access" but there are places you can access Kentucky from Missouri via road.

MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border, albeit a few cut off meanders of old riverbeds.

Fixed?

Minnesota and South Dakota also share a border but have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border.  Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your sentence.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

US 89

Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 05:07:09 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 04:45:48 PM

Quote from: hbelkins on January 21, 2021, 03:43:32 PM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 11:42:26 AM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no direct road access between them.

That's not totally true. Due to the changes in the Mississippi River over the years, there are some spots of Kentucky that are isolated from the rest of the state by the river, and you access them by land from Missouri. I actually saw photos from one of them not long ago. I'm thinking Jake Bear posted them on Facebook, but could be mistaken.

I understand what you mean by "no direct road access" but there are places you can access Kentucky from Missouri via road.

MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border, albeit a few cut off meanders of old riverbeds.

Fixed?

Minnesota and South Dakota also share a border but have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border.  Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your sentence.

Now I'm lost. The Mississippi River doesn't border South Dakota.

The gap at Browns Valley connects the headwaters of the Minnesota River (draining to the Mississippi) to the headwaters of the Red River (draining north to Lake Winnipeg, ultimately to Hudson Bay).

jakeroot

Quote from: US 89 on January 21, 2021, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 05:07:09 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 04:45:48 PM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border, albeit a few cut off meanders of old riverbeds.

Fixed?

Minnesota and South Dakota also share a border but have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border.  Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your sentence.

Now I'm lost. The Mississippi River doesn't border South Dakota.

The gap at Browns Valley connects the headwaters of the Minnesota River (draining to the Mississippi) to the headwaters of the Red River (draining north to Lake Winnipeg, ultimately to Hudson Bay).

I think he's being facetious, in response to ethanhopkin14's very specific wording.

US 89

Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2021, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 21, 2021, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 05:07:09 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 04:45:48 PM
MO and KY: Only states to share a border and have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border, albeit a few cut off meanders of old riverbeds.

Fixed?

Minnesota and South Dakota also share a border but have no bridge across the Mississippi River connecting them as the mostly recognized natural border.  Or maybe I'm misunderstanding your sentence.

Now I'm lost. The Mississippi River doesn't border South Dakota.

The gap at Browns Valley connects the headwaters of the Minnesota River (draining to the Mississippi) to the headwaters of the Red River (draining north to Lake Winnipeg, ultimately to Hudson Bay).

I think he's being facetious, in response to ethanhopkin14's very specific wording.

Heh. That's what I get for only getting 5 hours of sleep last night.

CNGL-Leudimin

Quote from: US 89 on January 21, 2021, 05:13:13 PM
Now I'm lost. The Mississippi River doesn't border South Dakota.

The gap at Browns Valley connects the headwaters of the Minnesota River (draining to the Mississippi) to the headwaters of the Red River (draining north to Lake Winnipeg, ultimately to Hudson Bay).

The Traverse Gap. Which was formed by River Warren as the outlet for Lake Agassiz as the Ice Age was coming to an end. Now it has the rare distinction of being a valley crossed by a continental divide.

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X99

Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas that have only one direct road connection.
why are there only like 5 people on this forum from south dakota

hotdogPi

Quote from: X99 on January 21, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas that have only one direct road connection.

Key West
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Traveled, plus
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MA 22,35,40,53,79,107,109,126,138,141,151,159,203
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 9A, 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

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X99

Quote from: 1 on January 21, 2021, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: X99 on January 21, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas that have only one direct road connection.

Key West

Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas, where both land areas connect to at least one other state, that have only one direct road connection between them.

Fixed.
why are there only like 5 people on this forum from south dakota

hotdogPi

Quote from: X99 on January 21, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 21, 2021, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: X99 on January 21, 2021, 05:54:37 PM
Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas that have only one direct road connection.

Key West

Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas, where both land areas connect to at least one other state, that have only one direct road connection between them.

Fixed.

Staten Island
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Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22,35,40,53,79,107,109,126,138,141,151,159,203
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 9A, 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

kphoger

Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas, where both land areas connect to at least one other state, and that don't have Staten Island in them, that have only one direct road connection between them.*

There.  Fixed.  Now everyone is happy.**




*  subject to peer review

**  unsubstantiated claim

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

X99

Quote from: kphoger on August 05, 2023, 05:20:14 PM
Virginia and Michigan: only two states with separate land areas, where both land areas connect to at least one other state, and that don't have Staten Island in them, that have only one direct road connection between them.*

There.  Fixed.  Now everyone is happy.**




*  subject to peer review

**  unsubstantiated claim
I was gonna say that both land areas had to have a land boundary with another state, but that works too I guess
why are there only like 5 people on this forum from south dakota

ethanhopkin14

Alaska and Hawaii:  Only two states that have no borders with any other US states.

kphoger

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 06:25:10 PM
Alaska and Hawaii:  Only two states that have no borders with any other US states.

You know...  That makes me wonder if any of FritzOwl's planned bridges extend into international waters...

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
These may not be as interesting as the ones I posted in the OP, but here's what I have for Massachusetts:

TX: Ends in a pronounced s

Kansas also ends in a pronounced s.

That said, I think Illinois and Arkansas are the only two states to end in a silent s.
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SkyPesos

Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 21, 2021, 06:25:10 PM
Alaska and Hawaii:  Only two states that have no borders with any other US states.

You know...  That makes me wonder if any of FritzOwl's planned bridges extend into international waters...
I wouldn't be surprised to see the following statement from FritzOwl in the future:
"The North Atlantic Tracks have outlived its usefulness and needs to be a ground level interstate. My plans to extend I-90 into Europe will replace the North Atlantic Tracks with a bridge."

kphoger

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 21, 2021, 09:40:44 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
These may not be as interesting as the ones I posted in the OP, but here's what I have for Massachusetts:

TX: Ends in a pronounced s

Kansas also ends in a pronounced s.

This whole time, I thought it was pronounced kin-SAW.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 21, 2021, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
These may not be as interesting as the ones I posted in the OP, but here's what I have for Massachusetts:

TX: Ends in a pronounced s

Kansas also ends in a pronounced s.

That said, I think Illinois and Arkansas are the only two states to end in a silent s.

My wife has tried hard to stop me from saying "Ill-la-noise".

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 21, 2021, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 21, 2021, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
These may not be as interesting as the ones I posted in the OP, but here's what I have for Massachusetts:

TX: Ends in a pronounced s

Kansas also ends in a pronounced s.

That said, I think Illinois and Arkansas are the only two states to end in a silent s.

My wife has tried hard to stop me from saying "Ill-la-noise".


Bring in 'da Illi-noise, Bring in 'da Illi-funk!  :)
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ethanhopkin14

Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2021, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on January 21, 2021, 09:40:44 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
These may not be as interesting as the ones I posted in the OP, but here's what I have for Massachusetts:

TX: Ends in a pronounced s

Kansas also ends in a pronounced s.

This whole time, I thought it was pronounced kin-SAW.

This sounds like a Gallagher bit.  If you extrapolate how to pronounce Kansas from Arkansas, then yes.  The opposite way it should be AR-CAN-SAS.  English is a funny little bug ain't it?

kphoger

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 21, 2021, 10:38:32 PM
My wife has tried hard to stop me from saying "Ill-la-noise".

That's a good way to incite violence among Illinoisans.

Actually, though, I've seen Guys & Dolls, and I wouldn't want to correct Big Julie's pronunciation of 'East Cicero, Illinois'...

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.