Junction Signs on Concurrencies

[rarnold]

Why not use a sign that says "Routes Diverge?" The opposite sign could be "Routes Converge" for routes that will be concurrent.

Junction doesn't work because you are already on the route, just like routes that exit from themselves.

Arrows are much more easily understood.  There's nothing wrong with the assembly I posted up-thread, is there?

No, not at all. Was just thinking out loud.

[CoreySamson]

Wyoming uses "Routes Divide." Here is an example on US 26-89-189-191 southbound:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kMdv2vH8GtkoFaw49

I really like this! Just add the shields to the sign and use the word diverge instead of divide.

[roadman65]

In Inverness, FL a JCT US 41 sign appears on US 41 SB before the concurrency starts.

[Caps81943]

I agree that the language is imprecise, but don't see a more precise message that takes up equal signage.

In my opinion, the correct message would be
WEST
US-2
<-
   |

Yes, it's three signs, but the message is clearer.

[kenarmy]

It has always bothered me that the end of 20/59's grand concurrency is labeled like this. The exit should be for 59 since it's the one that has to exit, and because 20 is longer and more important. Maybe 59 is longer than 20 in MS, but at this point they would have an equal distance.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3501728,-88.7456682,3a,75y,257.49h,92.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRR-4C3Nzj6T0uefONz31wA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[dkblake]

Another example near me: US 2/US 7 NB in Colchester, VT, heading northbound with a junction sign for US 2:

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5856625,-73.1658515,3a,75y,342.27h,86.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfC3xes2EcGQYlBqjSA0f6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I don't mind this in this instance since, like in the OP example, one route continues straight and one (the one signed on the road) turns off. Moreover, as with the OP example, the two routes cover very different corridors after the split: US 2 goes from here to the Lake Champlain Islands while 7 continues north along the eastern shore of Lake Champlain, so if you want US 2 and miss the turn, you either need to turn around or wait until Alburgh in 40 miles or so.

I agree that the language is imprecise, but don't see a more precise message that takes up equal signage.

Easy.



One shield, one plaque.
Even more precise, no confusing "JCT" language.

In VT, the "JCT" sign is the initial notice of an upcoming major intersection. After the JCT sign may follow the above signs with the bent arrows directing cars through an intersection with turn lanes or driveways surrounding. For another intersection (Tafts Corners, where VT 2A and US 2 intersect in Williston), see https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4524088,-73.1112962,3a,75y,198.01h,100.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCa5XMBoXXDkOkCkSdGiGig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192, then https://www.google.com/maps/@44.450835,-73.1110732,3a,75y,198.01h,98.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-pi0yGrb-oycAmSRSylNNw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192.

My point is that if the state uses "JCT X" as the initial notification, but you want to avoid the language because it's a split of a concurrency, then the "grammatically correct" solution would be something like a larger sign diagramming the upcoming intersection. Doing that would be a larger sign, and I feel like most drivers understand the meaning of "JCT 2" despite it not being quite correct.

[ethanhopkin14]

I found another.  Worst thing about this is, you are on US-60 and US-60 is the through route.  The intersection was redone so that US-60 turns right, but in actuality US-60 is the through route.  Then again, this is New Mexico.

https://goo.gl/maps/b4PrAX8Myyj2mvRu7

[JayhawkCO]

I found a weird one this weekend.  Taking US36 from Estes Park to Lyons, which used to be concurrent with CO66, when you intersect with the current western end of CO66, the sign says "JCT: US36".

Chris