The same route numbers crossing state lines

[SEWIGuy]

Not sure if this has come up before, but one of my responses on the ranking of state border crossings had me realize (thanks to jayhawkco) that there are two instances of a 205 crossing Oregon's borders.  I'm curious where else this might happen?

Obviously, both Interstate and US 41 cross from Wisconsin into Illinois (though.....does Interstate 41 terminate at the state line?  )

Maybe there's places in Texas where a SH with the same number as one of Texas' interstates or US highways crosses a state line?

IDOT isn't interested in I-41 it ends at the state line. I don't know why Wisconsin thought it was going to be extended south.

According to the FHWA Interstate Log, it crosses the state line for "2.5 miles"  and terminates in Illinois, beyond the state line.

It terminates where US-41 splits from I-94 just south of the WI/IL line.

If you are heading north on US-41, IDOT has a JCT sign for both I-41 and I-91.  So yes, it is signed in Illinois.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4776447,-87.9468965,3a,75y,337.97h,82.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5bWDeq0do0RqG34d88uipg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4790775,-87.946749,3a,75y,11.96h,76.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sszABo4PKVMqfSLliZLL25Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4829754,-87.9463018,3a,75y,357.77h,107.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5NP-OdrxozSGGShv4PiO4Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[roadman65]

Yeah which is a waste.  To not only duplicate the route number but to have it dangle at a random point between two city metros.

If I didn't know better I think the I-41 designation is to just to make US 41 an interstate.   I-41 and US 41 is to be like I-690 and N.Y. 690 in New York where the both designations are one Route 690.

In that case do a gap in US 41 like NM and CO do for US 85.  Or sign it at where US 41 becomes I-94 and say "US 41 North Follow I-41 North. ". Then at Green Bay say at I-41 End " I-41 becomes US 41."

Holy crap,  I am starting to think like someone else in particular forum. Yikes!😱

[SEWIGuy]

I don't mind turning US-41 into I-41.  It makes perfect sense to me and no one has been confused by this.  It does end in a strange place though.  I'll give you that.

[StogieGuy7]

I don't mind turning US-41 into I-41.  It makes perfect sense to me and no one has been confused by this.  It does end in a strange place though.  I'll give you that.

US-41 cruises along with "I-41" all the way up to it's end in Green Bay.  Then, US-41 emerges from it's limited-access cocoon and emerges on it's own to travel all the way up to Lake Superior. Along the way, there are signs along I-94/41 saying "for US-41, follow I-41": https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5378164,-87.9519734,3a,90y,14.43h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssAPhBoByQ0WG54Gola0_LQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And, as you can see, the US-41 badge is still in use with it's newer interstate namesake:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5037693,-87.951245,3a,37.5y,357.94h,97.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFmiJXmJpdGYa82Ta2fRk4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

What never made sense to me is why I-41 is routed south of Milwaukee along I-94 in the first place.  Talk about an unnecessary redundancy. They could have started it at the I-894/i-43 interchange and run it from there north to Green Bay and this would have been perfectly appropriate.  But it overstays it's welcome farther south - around Kenosha, it's just "94" and "41" is the highway south of the border that you take to avoid the Waukegan toll (if you're cheap).

[SEWIGuy]

I don't mind turning US-41 into I-41.  It makes perfect sense to me and no one has been confused by this.  It does end in a strange place though.  I'll give you that.

US-41 cruises along with "I-41" all the way up to it's end in Green Bay.  Then, US-41 emerges from it's limited-access cocoon and emerges on it's own to travel all the way up to Lake Superior. Along the way, there are signs along I-94/41 saying "for US-41, follow I-41": https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5378164,-87.9519734,3a,90y,14.43h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssAPhBoByQ0WG54Gola0_LQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And, as you can see, the US-41 badge is still in use with it's newer interstate namesake:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5037693,-87.951245,3a,37.5y,357.94h,97.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFmiJXmJpdGYa82Ta2fRk4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

What never made sense to me is why I-41 is routed south of Milwaukee along I-94 in the first place.  Talk about an unnecessary redundancy. They could have started it at the I-894/i-43 interchange and run it from there north to Green Bay and this would have been perfectly appropriate.  But it overstays it's welcome farther south - around Kenosha, it's just "94" and "41" is the highway south of the border that you take to avoid the Waukegan toll (if you're cheap).

Yep.  I could make a case for ending at I-94 at the Zoo interchange, I-43 at the Hale interchange or I-94 (again) at the Mitchell interchange.  But it is odd where it ends now. 

OTOH, they probably felt that as long as they were replacing the US-41 signage, they may as well do so on the duplex between the Mitchell and the IL line, and end it where the two highways diverge.

In the end, it's all fine though.  Just roadgeeks being nitpicky.

[kphoger]

Texas (I may have missed some)

TX-83 becomes NM-132
US-83 continues into Oklahoma

Spur-30 becomes a county road in Oklahoma
I-30 continues into Arkansas

TX-79 becomes OK-79
US-79 continues into Louisiana

TX-77 becomes LA-1
US-77 continues into Oklahoma

TX-82 becomes LA-82
US-82 transits the state from New Mexico to Arkansas

[OCGuy81]

Texas (I may have missed some)

TX-83 becomes NM-132
US-83 continues into Oklahoma

Spur-30 becomes a county road in Oklahoma
I-30 continues into Arkansas

TX-79 becomes OK-79
US-79 continues into Louisiana

TX-77 becomes LA-1
US-77 continues into Oklahoma

TX-82 becomes LA-82
US-82 transits the state from New Mexico to Arkansas

Nice list! I knew Texas would have several of these!

[bassoon1986]

Louisiana:

I-10 into TX and MS
LA 10 into MS 26

Swing and a miss:
US 190 and LA 191


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[Dirt Roads]

Almost, but not quite:  How about adjacent border crossings between Beulah, Florida and Seminole, Alabama:  I-10 and US-90 (which is secret FL-10, but only on the Florida side).

[jp the roadgeek]

One that may eventually be eliminated, and one that ends at the border.

US 15 crosses the PA/NY border
CT 15 ends at the NY border and becomes NY 907W.

[mgk920]

I-41 technically ends at the first exit in Illinois.

Not the first exit (Russell Rd), but the next one (US 41/Skokie Highway).

OTOH, WI 78 becomes IL 78 at the state line.

Mike

[mgk920]

I don't mind turning US-41 into I-41.  It makes perfect sense to me and no one has been confused by this.  It does end in a strange place though.  I'll give you that.

US-41 cruises along with "I-41" all the way up to it's end in Green Bay.  Then, US-41 emerges from it's limited-access cocoon and emerges on it's own to travel all the way up to Lake Superior. Along the way, there are signs along I-94/41 saying "for US-41, follow I-41": https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5378164,-87.9519734,3a,90y,14.43h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssAPhBoByQ0WG54Gola0_LQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And, as you can see, the US-41 badge is still in use with it's newer interstate namesake:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5037693,-87.951245,3a,37.5y,357.94h,97.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFmiJXmJpdGYa82Ta2fRk4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

What never made sense to me is why I-41 is routed south of Milwaukee along I-94 in the first place.  Talk about an unnecessary redundancy. They could have started it at the I-894/i-43 interchange and run it from there north to Green Bay and this would have been perfectly appropriate.  But it overstays it's welcome farther south - around Kenosha, it's just "94" and "41" is the highway south of the border that you take to avoid the Waukegan toll (if you're cheap).

Yep.  I could make a case for ending at I-94 at the Zoo interchange, I-43 at the Hale interchange or I-94 (again) at the Mitchell interchange.  But it is odd where it ends now. 

OTOH, they probably felt that as long as they were replacing the US-41 signage, they may as well do so on the duplex between the Mitchell and the IL line, and end it where the two highways diverge.

In the end, it's all fine though.  Just roadgeeks being nitpicky.

I have mentioned many times over the years in here that having the '41' number on I-94 at the south Milwaukee County line as well as the North County line and the highway marked on I-894 is to give that major transit route through Milwaukee County a single route number.  This was a major navigational confusion for many years for those who have need to drive the route, but not often, like those non-roadgeeks who live here in the Appleton and Oshkosh, WI areas and want to travel into and beyond the Chicagoland area (and vice-versa).

Mike

[OCGuy81]

I don't mind turning US-41 into I-41.  It makes perfect sense to me and no one has been confused by this.  It does end in a strange place though.  I'll give you that.

US-41 cruises along with "I-41" all the way up to it's end in Green Bay.  Then, US-41 emerges from it's limited-access cocoon and emerges on it's own to travel all the way up to Lake Superior. Along the way, there are signs along I-94/41 saying "for US-41, follow I-41": https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5378164,-87.9519734,3a,90y,14.43h,90.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssAPhBoByQ0WG54Gola0_LQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And, as you can see, the US-41 badge is still in use with it's newer interstate namesake:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5037693,-87.951245,3a,37.5y,357.94h,97.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFmiJXmJpdGYa82Ta2fRk4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

What never made sense to me is why I-41 is routed south of Milwaukee along I-94 in the first place.  Talk about an unnecessary redundancy. They could have started it at the I-894/i-43 interchange and run it from there north to Green Bay and this would have been perfectly appropriate.  But it overstays it's welcome farther south - around Kenosha, it's just "94" and "41" is the highway south of the border that you take to avoid the Waukegan toll (if you're cheap).

Yep.  I could make a case for ending at I-94 at the Zoo interchange, I-43 at the Hale interchange or I-94 (again) at the Mitchell interchange.  But it is odd where it ends now. 

OTOH, they probably felt that as long as they were replacing the US-41 signage, they may as well do so on the duplex between the Mitchell and the IL line, and end it where the two highways diverge.

In the end, it's all fine though.  Just roadgeeks being nitpicky.

I have mentioned many times over the years in here that having the '41' number on I-94 at the south Milwaukee County line as well as the North County line and the highway marked on I-894 is to give that major transit route through Milwaukee County a single route number.  This was a major navigational confusion for many years for those who have need to drive the route, but not often, like those non-roadgeeks who live here in the Appleton and Oshkosh, WI areas and want to travel into and beyond the Chicagoland area (and vice-versa).

Mike

I'm still surprised that they've bothered to keep 894.  I thought this when 43 was extended, long before I-41 was even routed onto it.

[Angelo71]

DE-300 and MD-300
MD-16 and DE-16
MD-404 and DE-404
MD-273 and DE-273
MD-896, DE-896, PA-896
MD-272 PA-272
MD-707 and VA-707
MD-780 and VA-780
MD-713 and VA-713
MD-714 and VA-714
VA-127 and WV-127

[hotdogPi]

DE-300 and MD-300
MD-16 and DE-16
MD-404 and DE-404
MD-273 and DE-273
MD-896, DE-896, PA-896
MD-272 PA-272
MD-707 and VA-707
MD-780 and VA-780
MD-713 and VA-713
MD-714 and VA-714
VA-127 and WV-127

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26991
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24662

[Angelo71]

DE-300 and MD-300
MD-16 and DE-16
MD-404 and DE-404
MD-273 and DE-273
MD-896, DE-896, PA-896
MD-272 PA-272
MD-707 and VA-707
MD-780 and VA-780
MD-713 and VA-713
MD-714 and VA-714
VA-127 and WV-127

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26991
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24662

I don't understand what did I do wrong? I thought this was what the thread was about. Sorry for doing what everyone else was doing though!

[webny99]

DE-300 and MD-300
MD-16 and DE-16
MD-404 and DE-404
MD-273 and DE-273
MD-896, DE-896, PA-896
MD-272 PA-272
MD-707 and VA-707
MD-780 and VA-780
MD-713 and VA-713
MD-714 and VA-714
VA-127 and WV-127

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26991
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24662

I don't understand what did I do wrong? I thought this was what the thread was about. Sorry for doing what everyone else was doing though!

All of those are the same route. This thread is about 2 different routes with the same number that incidentally happen to both cross the state line.

[hotdogPi]

All of those are the same route. This thread is about 2 different routes with the same number that incidentally happen to both cross the state line.

Interestingly, the OP never specifies this.

[Angelo71]

Sorry for making such asinine comments.

[hotdogPi]

Sorry for making such asinine comments.

People misread threads all the time. Here's one of the worst.

[OCGuy81]

Sorry for making such asinine comments.

It's all good.  I should've maybe been a bit more specific.

Just looking for situations where different routes, albeit ones with the same numerical designation, both cross a state line. 

[ed_hennessy]

2 more for Illinois:

US 24 between Missouri and Indiana
I-24 goes to Kentucky

I-64 between Missouri and Indiana
IL 64 goes to the Iowa border