They think we're stupid

[agentsteel53]

for me, the word was "formicine".  a thousand curses unto the schwa!

[cpzilliacus]

Its like the NJ Turnpike or Garden State Parkway having shields erected all over New Jersey.  Its for advertising unlike the interstates that do not even have directional shields on other major roads near them that supports this fact.

I used to think that, but my friends here quickly dissuaded me of that notion.  Off the top of my head, here's a trailblazer for I-5 in Bellingham that's not spectacularly close to the nearest interchange. http://goo.gl/maps/7JysJ

The agency itself will admit it's pretty close to advertising, in the case of the Turnpike/Parkway. On the other hand, in South Jersey, those are your two north-south freeways.

I recall seeing Turnpike trailblazers along N.J. 70 not far from its Parkway interchange.

That's between 40 and 50 miles from Exit 4 (N.J. 73) on the Turnpike.

[kphoger]

for me, the word was "formicine".  a thousand curses unto the schwa!

I once lost a spelling bee because they misheard how I'd spelled the word.  I'd spelled it right.  Then the other girl came to the microphone for a shot at the same word, and she spelled it right too.  Blast it!  The word was savvy.

[J N Winkler]

I tried finding it in the 2009 MUTCD, but couldn't; do you have a reference?  And yes, I tried finding an example of that kind of signage along US-50, but gave up guessing at a location in favor of my Illinois one that I knew existed.

The one I know of on US 50 (at US 77 just north of Florence) is long gone since a roundabout was installed there almost ten years ago.  Another one I remember, however, is presumably still there:

US 24 and US 77 near Riley, Kansas

As to the MUTCD, the standard sign for this application is W4-4P ("Cross Traffic Does Not Stop"), with a variant (W4-4aP) designed to deal with tee junctions where the itinerary having priority takes a right-angle turn.  The two signs are diagrammed on page 168 (out of 864 in the PDF file) of the 2009 MUTCD, and the language concerning application is at § 2C.59.

[kphoger]

Right.  I had looked at those portions of the MUTCD, but found nothing that said 'Look Again' or anything similar.  I thought I remembered seeing something like that before, but maybe not.

[vtk]

Mom has told me a story about a spelling bee she lost by misspelling "ventilation".  She was unfamiliar with the word, and it didn't help that the sister running the bee clearly enunciated it as "vennilation" – so Mom spelled it that way.

This is starting to smell off-topic.

[roadman65]

Its like the NJ Turnpike or Garden State Parkway having shields erected all over New Jersey.  Its for advertising unlike the interstates that do not even have directional shields on other major roads near them that supports this fact.

I used to think that, but my friends here quickly dissuaded me of that notion.  Off the top of my head, here's a trailblazer for I-5 in Bellingham that's not spectacularly close to the nearest interchange. http://goo.gl/maps/7JysJ

In Florida you can find interstate shields miles from it, but in New Jersey you have US 46 close to I-80 where common crossroads have no shields where if I-80 were the Turnpike of Parkway it would have shields at NJ 17, Green Street, CR 503, and even Midland Avenue.  Then US 22, has only a few locations with I-78 shields at common road intersections that the toll roads would gladly sign.  CR 523 in Whitehouse is real close to I-78 and no signs at its intersection and then you have CR 531 in North Plainfield that is close, but because Trucks cannot climb the CR 531 hill north of the Watchung Circle they will not post any sign even though a CARS ONLY sign would work.  Then other major roadways near I-78 in Somerset, Union, and Essex counties could use them, and would if I-78 were part of the Turnpike and Parkway system.

The farthest in New Jersey an interstate is signed that I know of is on Westbound I-78 for I-287 in Springfield via NJ 24 at Exit 48, and on a mileage sign hung over the inner roadway on the CR 577 overpass that is 18 miles away.

[deathtopumpkins]

Re: "Look out for the cars" railroad crossing signs, I believe the issue was seeing the cars at night at unprotected crossings, since they have no lights on them and are often painted dark colors. This is why a few years ago the FRA began requiring railroads affix reflective strips to all freight cars.

[Kacie Jane]

Also, it's "disabuse" you of the notion. Or, they can just dissuade you "from" the notion, but dissuade means to discourage, not to cause you to change your mind.

The word "dissuade" cost me a trip to the Kentucky state spelling bee when I was a kid. I'd never heard the word before when I got it in a regional spelling bee, and I don't remember how I misspelled it. Probably with only one "s."  I think I asked for both a definition and for it to be used in a sentence, but if they'd said "opposite of 'persuade'" I probably would have gotten it right.

That word has haunted me ever since.

What's funny is that I looked up the word to check how to spell it (for some reason my brain was saying "dissuage" even though I knew it wasn't right), but didn't think to check the definition to realize that it didn't quite fit.

[Alps]

Mom has told me a story about a spelling bee she lost by misspelling "ventilation".  She was unfamiliar with the word, and it didn't help that the sister running the bee clearly enunciated it as "vennilation" – so Mom spelled it that way.

This is starting to smell off-topic.

Not at all. "They think we're stupid."

[NE2]

[bugo]

The whole thing could be solved if the ARCs were simply signed.  Directions would be "take I-79 to Corridor L to I-77".

It would be less confusing to give this section of US 19 a state route number, similar to what Iowa has been doing as of late.

[Urban Prairie Schooner]

In fairness, when the state route was assigned its number in 1955, the modern interstate system and its numbering had not yet been formulated.

Some drivers, not the majority but enough to matter, would probably be confused by this despite the differing route shields.

[NE2]

In fairness, when the state route was assigned its number in 1955, the modern interstate system and its numbering had not yet been formulated.

That's true about MD 68 and probably most other examples. I wonder if there are any conflicts that postdate the Interstate number (there have definitely been some with U.S. Routes, such as AL 31 crossing US 31 at Cullman, designated in 1927 or 1928).

And yes, that I-59 shield is on the offramp, telling you to get back on I-12.

[hbelkins]

Looks like the shield changers haven't gotten to those LA 59 markers yet.

[formulanone]

So what is prohibited? Aircraft and spacecraft? Goats?

[agentsteel53]

my guess would be fishing, but it is certainly a strange way to word it.

[NE2]

That's a Nimbyan sign trying to keep out goats by confusing them.

The actual ordinance is no clearer:

SEC. 72.75. RESTRICTING USE OF OR CLOSING COUNTY HIGHWAY.
   The Road Commissioner is hereby authorized to restrict the use of, or close, any County highway whenever he considers such closing or restriction of use necessary:
   (a)   For the protection of the public.
   (b)   For the protection of such county highway from damage during storms.
   (c)   During construction, improvement or maintenance operations thereon.
   No liability shall attach to the County, the Road Commissioner or to the Board of Supervisors of the County, for the restriction of use, or closing, of any County highway for the above public purposes.
(Added by Ord. No. 3148 (N.S.), effective 1-11-68)

[US71]

Looks like the shield changers haven't gotten to those LA 59 markers yet.

About half of LA 5 is still green/white.

[jeffandnicole]

So what is prohibited? Aircraft and spacecraft? Goats?

Pedestrians are fine as long as they remain on their feet.  Pedestrians that take flight via bungee cord are prohibited.

[Eth]

I wonder if there are any conflicts that postdate the Interstate number (there have definitely been some with U.S. Routes, such as AL 31 crossing US 31 at Cullman, designated in 1927 or 1928).

I-520 had already been around for nearly a decade when GA 520 was created, though those are far enough apart that I doubt there'd be any need for such signage.

[bugo]

I seem to remember a sign assembly in Siloam Springs with a US 412 (straight ahead) shield, to US 59 (straight ahead), and AR 59 (right).

[NE2]

AR 59 is one of those deliberately confusing routes near a state line, where the DOT tries to siphon traffic from the U.S. Route.

[US71]

AR 59 is one of those deliberately confusing routes near a state line, where the DOT tries to siphon traffic from the U.S. Route.

Part of AR 59 was originally AR 80, but became Detour US 59 in the 1930's. Why it was never changed back to AR 80, only AHTD knows (if anyone).

[vtk]

So what is prohibited? Aircraft and spacecraft? Goats?

Aircraft and spacecraft are also vehicles.  I guess you can't ride any animal except a horse, or do things other than walking or riding a horse or vehicle.