Speed Kills Your Pocketbook

[Rothman]

I hate the smell of marijuana.  Can't imagine if my car smelled like it.

I deal with it either while it's still in the ground or just after harvest, and it actually smells quite a bit different fresh than it does when it's smoked. Cultivation has come a long way now that it's legal, too, so the plants have been bred over time to smell more pleasant (there was one strain I defoliated that smelled just like orange chicken).

But there's no way to keep that smell from transferring to my car, because there's always some bit of trim or resin that sticks to my shirt without me noticing and falls off in there. I wouldn't want my car to smell like marijuana smoke either, but smelling like fresh bud is fine, for my sake, at least–can't imagine what people in drive-thrus and places like that must think of me!

Stinky.

[Scott5114]

I hate the smell of marijuana.  Can't imagine if my car smelled like it.

I deal with it either while it's still in the ground or just after harvest, and it actually smells quite a bit different fresh than it does when it's smoked. Cultivation has come a long way now that it's legal, too, so the plants have been bred over time to smell more pleasant (there was one strain I defoliated that smelled just like orange chicken).

But there's no way to keep that smell from transferring to my car, because there's always some bit of trim or resin that sticks to my shirt without me noticing and falls off in there. I wouldn't want my car to smell like marijuana smoke either, but smelling like fresh bud is fine, for my sake, at least–can't imagine what people in drive-thrus and places like that must think of me!

Dude, don't listen to these weirdos, your wife's medical need is far more important than anyone's karen whining about the smell.

Oh, for sure. Fortunately, pretty much all of my friends are either in the industry themselves or cool with it, so I don't have to hear anyone complain (not even my parents, who when I told them I got a job in marijuana just started telling me their stories about it from the 70s that they'd kept quiet about all my life!). Like I said, I don't really mind the smell, and besides, I get paid to smell it. I don't see it as any different than a DOT employee having to smell asphalt, or, like in my previous job at a casino, cigarette smoke. Actually, I'd rather my car smell like fresh weed than the times I left my casino uniform in the car and made it smell like cigarette smoke.

That being said, I have zero interest in trying to explain any of this to a Texas Ranger...

[hbelkins]

It is very possible to travel through Michigan and come out and do another state. One could enter Michigan on I-75 or US-23 near Toledo and exit Michigan on US-2 in Ironwood. It's probably not the shortest or quickest way but it is a way to get there.

Been there, just recently did that.

And I wasn't driving, but IIRC the toll on the Mackinac was not incredibly expensive.

[CoreySamson]

But what state are you coming from before passing through Michigan? Even that strip of land dangling off from Wisconsin, is also Michigan I believe. I-90 may temporarily cross the border and back, but I don't consider a highway as passing through a state unless there are actual exits/entrances in the state.

If someone wanted to go from Ohio to northern Minnesota or Wisconsin without having to deal with traffic in Chicago, then going through Michigan may very well be the best option. Also, when border traffic gets back to normal, for traffic from Ontario trying to get to western Canada or the western U.S, going through Michigan is the fastest option.

And just in case you weren't sure, I-90 just barely misses Michigan. 

[Flint1979]

It is very possible to travel through Michigan and come out and do another state. One could enter Michigan on I-75 or US-23 near Toledo and exit Michigan on US-2 in Ironwood. It's probably not the shortest or quickest way but it is a way to get there.

Been there, just recently did that.

And I wasn't driving, but IIRC the toll on the Mackinac was not incredibly expensive.

It's not that expensive it's $4 each way for a regular vehicle. I've drove across the Mackinac Bridge six times this year and spent $24.

And I looked it up, to go from Toledo to Ashland, WI the shortest and quickest way involves traveling through Michigan. It's 674 miles, 10 hours, 31 minutes.  Like was mentioned earlier it's about the same distance to go through Chicago but it takes about a half hour longer for some reason.

[Flint1979]

But what state are you coming from before passing through Michigan? Even that strip of land dangling off from Wisconsin, is also Michigan I believe. I-90 may temporarily cross the border and back, but I don't consider a highway as passing through a state unless there are actual exits/entrances in the state. For example, I-684 isn't functional in CT, and is therefore owned by the NYSDOT, and I don't even know if CT state police have jurisdiction over that stretch. I know they wanted to put a $5 toll in each direction for that stretch truncating Connecticut.

Ohio and what strip of land are you talking about? I-90 never crosses into Michigan.

[sprjus4]

Isn't both the Ohio Turnpike and the Indiana Toll Road designated as I-90 on top of I-80?

Yes, between west of Cleveland and east of Chicago.

[renegade]

Holy roach clip, Batman!

How the heck did we get from speed limits to abortion, child abuse, decriminalization, veganism, and trafficking?

I would not dare venture into any of those states not knowing what weird, idiotic, ridiculous, Overbearing laws I may be breaking from another state.

So, then, what states would you venture to?  That is to say, which states are you 100% certain don't have any weird, idiotic, ridiculous, overbearing laws?

The OP is possibly an unlicensed child-abusing vegan pothead drug-trafficker who just happens to be on the sex-offender registry.  How else would he be so knowledgeable of the laws of those states?  The states he references are probably places he would not be allowed to travel to without risk of prison time.

Methinks he doth protest too loudly ...

[sprjus4]

^ This post was an adventure to read.

[jakeroot]

I'm slightly alarmed by how much you know about sex crimes involving minors offhand.

[sprjus4]

I'm slightly alarmed by how much you know about sex crimes involving minors offhand.

Only slightly?

[Scott5114]

Two underage teens having sex is

not on topic for this forum. Nor is most political discussion in general.

[hotdogPi]

I brought up a ton of speeding laws in that post as well.

Replies #342 and 347 say otherwise.

[dlsterner]

... but making a 3rd offense of driving a measly 50 over the speed limit a felony punishable by 5 years in prison ...

50 over the speed limit is "measly"??  I can't see how in anybody's world that 50 over is considered "measly", whether 55 in a 5 zone or 130 in an 80 zone.  Plus it's a bit ... disturbing ... that your posts seem to steer towards comments referring to underage sexual relations, which is not even close to being on topic.

I will never drive in Michigan, Virginia, or North Carolina.

Feel free to add my state to your list.

[renegade]

Wow ... need that trainwreck video again.

[Flint1979]

I just made a huge circle around the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. I started and ended in Saginaw, went to Midland, Clare, Cadillac, Big Rapids, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Lansing, Flint and then back to Saginaw. Took me 9 hours to do that and lemme tell ya I didn't have a problem with anyone. Michigan State Police running rampant on US-131 today though big time.

[hbelkins]

I just made a huge circle around the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. I started and ended in Saginaw, went to Midland, Clare, Cadillac, Big Rapids, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Lansing, Flint and then back to Saginaw. Took me 9 hours to do that and lemme tell ya I didn't have a problem with anyone. Michigan State Police running rampant on US-131 today though big time.

Saw very few police when I was in Michigan a couple of weeks ago (I-75/US 23/I-75/US 2/M-77/M-28/US 2).

Ohio, however, was a different story. OHP everywhere on I-75.

Last ticket I got (one of only two in my life) was in Ohio. The OHP officer said i wasn't driving dangerously or excessively fast, but was driving fast enough to get a ticket. Think it was 74 in a 55, he knocked it down a little.

Guess it serves me right for taking some roadgeek's advice that OH 104 was a suitable alternative to US 23 between Chillicothe and Portsmouth. It's also why I invested in a Valentine One radar detector after that.

[sprjus4]

I know there were a couple of people who genuinely watched the entire videos and I even acknowledged his double standard with the sample sizes, but 90% of his points remain unrefuted. The mandatory car impoundment for 40kmh over the limit (25 mph) is excessive even of the speed limits were rational. One caneasily be cruising at 15 over with traffic flow, and then gain an extra 10 mph just from coasting down a hill. And when people say "but of they raised the speed limits to 80 then people would go 110" I feel is a fallacy. The only reason people say "fuck the limits catch me of you can" is because they are so ridiculously low to even try to follow. My car doesn't even have cruise control. With 80 mph speed limits everywhere, most people would still go around 80, but would be more relaxed knowing they won't be pulled over, and therefore drive less distracted and get in less accidents. This is a major point in the videos that, given all his statistical effort, he should have included. Even on the Autobahn in Germany, traffic flows rarely exceeds 90 mph on the unlimited sections. Raising speed limits essentially don't increase traffic flow, they make it more uniform, which is safer.

Yup, pretty much. Having driven the 80 mph and 85 mph segments of SH-130 in Texas before, I usually would cruise around 82-85 mph, and 87-88 mph respectively. It felt very reasonable, I didn't have an urge to go much faster, and wasn't worried about police. Come onto I-10 or I-35 (depending on direction) as it dumps off, still going 82-85 mph with the flow of traffic despite knocking down to 75 mph. If it was 80 mph (what I feel rural interstates should be universally), my speed would not have changed, just been closer to legal. I will usually run around 80 mph regardless of 65 mph, 70 mph, 75 mph, or 80 mph.

I-35 through Temple is 65 mph, and 75 mph on either side of it. Can also say from experience, traffic flows around 80 mph in both the 65 mph and 75 mph zones. No difference except what's "legal" .

And on those two lane 75 mph segments, I'm usually perfectly conformable at around 77 mph, and around 80 mph on the four lane divided.

Meanwhile, here in Virginia, with 55 mph and 60 mph respectively, I've easily hit over 70 mph without realizing it on both because the roads are well designed, but artificially posted low.

I will never buy into the argument that faster speed limits are bad, cause faster driving, etc. It's simply false. It just legalizes what reality is.

[hotdogPi]

@hbelkins

LOL even in Nazi State NY, most state troopers let you pass them at 75 in 55 zones without batting an eye. Tens of millions of cars drive every single day 365 days a year. Of course there are 40K fatal accidents a year. People acting like that's such a huge number. The US has the nerve to model interstate highways after the German Autobahns, but then not adopt the appropriate speed limit setting scheme. Screw moving out West, just need to go to Europe at this point. Norway, Sweden, Germany, Italy, Portugal, and Belgium seem so much more rational overall than the USA (US-Assholes)

New York is pretty good about rural two-lane roads being 55 where nearby states (and Quebec and Ontario) would post them lower. For example, NY 23 is 55 where it crosses the border into Massachusetts as MA 23; it's 30 as you cross into Massachusetts despite no change in road quality. (Massachusetts default speed limits are prima facie, but only defaults, not signed ones.)

[US 89]

wall of text

Who was that guy that posted walls of text about how he was smarter than everyone else and got some brewery shut down a few years ago? Because this is starting to remind me a lot of him.

[Max Rockatansky]

wall of text

Who was that guy that posted walls of text about how he was smarter than everyone else and got some brewery shut down a few years ago? Because this is starting to remind me a lot of him.

Some men aren't after anything logical.  Some men just want to watch the world burn.

[Occidental Tourist]

[hotdogPi]

wall of text

Who was that guy that posted walls of text about how he was smarter than everyone else and got some brewery shut down a few years ago? Because this is starting to remind me a lot of him.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14125

[Flint1979]

I just made a huge circle around the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. I started and ended in Saginaw, went to Midland, Clare, Cadillac, Big Rapids, Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, Lansing, Flint and then back to Saginaw. Took me 9 hours to do that and lemme tell ya I didn't have a problem with anyone. Michigan State Police running rampant on US-131 today though big time.

Saw very few police when I was in Michigan a couple of weeks ago (I-75/US 23/I-75/US 2/M-77/M-28/US 2).

Ohio, however, was a different story. OHP everywhere on I-75.

Last ticket I got (one of only two in my life) was in Ohio. The OHP officer said i wasn't driving dangerously or excessively fast, but was driving fast enough to get a ticket. Think it was 74 in a 55, he knocked it down a little.

Guess it serves me right for taking some roadgeek's advice that OH 104 was a suitable alternative to US 23 between Chillicothe and Portsmouth. It's also why I invested in a Valentine One radar detector after that.

At one point between GR and Kzoo they were sitting double in the median looking at both directions and some other MSP troopers had another car pulled over about a mile after that. I saw five MSP cruisers between Cadillac and GR. Other than 131 I didn't see anymore and I took a back way to get to M-37 and took that way into GR.
OH-104 looks like it could be an alternate to US-23 in that area but I never even knew of it's existence until you mentioned it.

[Flint1979]

... but making a 3rd offense of driving a measly 50 over the speed limit a felony punishable by 5 years in prison ...

50 over the speed limit is "measly"??  I can't see how in anybody's world that 50 over is considered "measly", whether 55 in a 5 zone or 130 in an 80 zone.  Plus it's a bit ... disturbing ... that your posts seem to steer towards comments referring to underage sexual relations, which is not even close to being on topic.

I will never drive in Michigan, Virginia, or North Carolina.

Feel free to add my state to your list.

They were just examples of why Michigan, California, and Georgia were deranged states. I just did 109 in a 55 today, didn't feel that fast for the road, a little fast, but not that I was going 54 mph faster than the roads design speed. Maybe 14 over the road's design speed. If I added up all the times I hit 51+ over the limit, I would get a life sentence in Florida. Speed Limits shouldn't be 70 on 400+ mile long mostly straight highways in that state. 55 in a 5 zone means you are flooring it through a parking lot, huge difference than simply accelerating on a straight empty interstate. 50 over the speed limit can be as low as 105, which is not fast at all. When you take into account how 99% of roads are set at 30+ mph lower than the road design speed, 50 over is really only 10-20 faster than you should be going, at most. Don't see the big deal since there is probably no traffic down there given that half the population is hospitalized with covid. What state do you want me to add?

How about adding every state? You are insane to think that 105 mph isn't fast at all. And I very highly doubt the state's that you have mentioned are the problem. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.