Control Cities

[US20IL64]

For outbound I-290 in Chicago, the Ike X-Way, finally changed from 'West Suburbs' to Aurora    It's 2nd largest city in IL, not a subdivision.

IDOT admitting that the "mainline"  corridor is the Ike out to Hillside, then the Reagan out to Aurora (and beyond). Otherwise, IDOT should really use Elmhurst or Schaumburg - cities actually along I-290

I-290 should be deleted, and from the current East end of 88 to Downtown, should become 88. Makes no sense to have a 2DI end at a junction with two other 3DIs

How about sign I-290 south of I-88 as I-88, then simply retain I-290 north of there till I-90?

Considering IDOT is too stubborn to extend I-55, I-57 or I-65 north to Wisconsin for them to use on what is now I-41 and I-43, I highly doubt they'll renumber any of the interstates in the Chicago area. So our Chicago interstates renumbering ideas will most likely stay as fictional for our lifetimes.

I won't say that other states/regions "should" renumber or whatever. 290 is child of 90, loops from and to both ways. 55 and 57 are fine, as is. 

[SkyPesos]

For outbound I-290 in Chicago, the Ike X-Way, finally changed from 'West Suburbs' to Aurora    It's 2nd largest city in IL, not a subdivision.

IDOT admitting that the "mainline"  corridor is the Ike out to Hillside, then the Reagan out to Aurora (and beyond). Otherwise, IDOT should really use Elmhurst or Schaumburg - cities actually along I-290

I-290 should be deleted, and from the current East end of 88 to Downtown, should become 88. Makes no sense to have a 2DI end at a junction with two other 3DIs

How about sign I-290 south of I-88 as I-88, then simply retain I-290 north of there till I-90?

Considering IDOT is too stubborn to extend I-55, I-57 or I-65 north to Wisconsin for them to use on what is now I-41 and I-43, I highly doubt they'll renumber any of the interstates in the Chicago area. So our Chicago interstates renumbering ideas will most likely stay as fictional for our lifetimes.

I won't say that other states/regions "should" renumber or whatever. 290 is child of 90, loops from and to both ways. 55 and 57 are fine, as is. 

Every numbering is fine in a non-fictional world.

[ilpt4u]

In a similar vein, which interstate control city is closed to where the interstate actually goes but never enters?

I nominate Baltimore. 

New York City with I-80 has to be up there

[SkyPesos]

In a similar vein, which interstate control city is closed to where the interstate actually goes but never enters?

I nominate Baltimore. 

New York City with I-80 has to be up there

Similar to the Baltimore situation, I nominate Miami 

[Roadgeekteen]

Thought of this yesterday...

Which control city is farthest away from where the interstate actually goes?  My nomination: I-76 (W).  Once it's in the Denver metro, westbound has a control city of Grand Junction, but I-76 never comes within 253 miles of GJ.  Are there any other candidates?

The only other one that jumped to mind was I-40 having Los Angeles as a control city, but it never gets within 114 miles of LA.

Chris

In a similar vein, which interstate control city is closed to where the interstate actually goes but never enters?

I nominate Baltimore. 

I-70 actually enters Baltimore City.

[sprjus4]

I-95 Boston. ^

[Flint1979]

Thought of this yesterday...

Which control city is farthest away from where the interstate actually goes?  My nomination: I-76 (W).  Once it's in the Denver metro, westbound has a control city of Grand Junction, but I-76 never comes within 253 miles of GJ.  Are there any other candidates?

The only other one that jumped to mind was I-40 having Los Angeles as a control city, but it never gets within 114 miles of LA.

Chris

Another one off the top of my head would be IN-63 with Chicago as the control city where IN-63 doesn't go to Chicago it ends over 100 miles before it at US-41 which does go to Chicago.

[jmacswimmer]

Thought of this yesterday...

Which control city is farthest away from where the interstate actually goes?  My nomination: I-76 (W).  Once it's in the Denver metro, westbound has a control city of Grand Junction, but I-76 never comes within 253 miles of GJ.  Are there any other candidates?

The only other one that jumped to mind was I-40 having Los Angeles as a control city, but it never gets within 114 miles of LA.

Chris

Back when I-295 (VA) was signed for Miami from I-95 SB at exit 84A, that was probably the easy winner at ~900 miles...but alas, no more.

In a similar vein, which interstate control city is closed to where the interstate actually goes but never enters?

I nominate Baltimore. 

I-70 actually enters Baltimore City.

Remember, it needs to "meaningfully" serve the city. 

Also: Gross Pittsburgh from both I-76 & I-79.

[Roadgeekteen]

I miss Angelo

[JayhawkCO]

Back when I-295 (VA) was signed for Miami from I-95 SB at exit 84A, that was probably the easy winner at ~900 miles...but alas, no more.

Was I-295 actually signed for Miami though?  I could have sworn it was just at the I-85/I-95 split.

Chris

[jmacswimmer]

Back when I-295 (VA) was signed for Miami from I-95 SB at exit 84A, that was probably the easy winner at ~900 miles...but alas, no more.

Was I-295 actually signed for Miami though?  I could have sworn it was just at the I-85/I-95 split.

At some point this was updated to "Rocky Mount NC/Richmond Int'l" and then more recently the entire overhead structure was replaced with an APL that instead focuses on I-64's control cities.

[JayhawkCO]

Back when I-295 (VA) was signed for Miami from I-95 SB at exit 84A, that was probably the easy winner at ~900 miles...but alas, no more.

Was I-295 actually signed for Miami though?  I could have sworn it was just at the I-85/I-95 split.

At some point this was updated to "Rocky Mount NC/Richmond Int'l" and then more recently the entire overhead structure was replaced with an APL that instead focuses on I-64's control cities.

Didn't remember that.  For sure that would have been the winner.  When I brought up the topic, I was only thinking about 2dis, but I imagine there might be another 3di somewhere that's even farther away than my I-76 example.

Chris

[JayhawkCO]

One I just found which might be the leader for 3dis at the moment: I-580 (CA) - 284 miles away from Los Angeles.

Chris

[JayhawkCO]

I-84 is posted with an eastbound control of Cheyenne at its split from I-15 in Ogden. Of course, I-84 ends in Echo - about 390 miles from Cheyenne - and I-80 covers the remaining distance.

Good find! Somehow I missed this yesterday.  A new overall leader.

Chris

[TheStranger]

One I just found which might be the leader for 3dis at the moment: I-580 (CA) - 284 miles away from Los Angeles.

Chris

That reminds me of when the I-5 northbound control was switched from Bakersfield (old US 99/Golden State Freeway destination now along state Route 99) to Sacramento (which I-5 does directly reach) in the late 1970s...

I-405, Route 170 each got their controls adjusted as well.

405 north terminus at I-5 is a full 361 miles away from downtown Sacramento (so about 350 from where I-5 exits Elk Grove and enters the Freeport area of southern Sacramento).

[SkyPesos]

One I just found which might be the leader for 3dis at the moment: I-580 (CA) - 284 miles away from Los Angeles.

Chris

I-270 SB - 386 miles away from Tulsa

[JayhawkCO]

One I just found which might be the leader for 3dis at the moment: I-580 (CA) - 284 miles away from Los Angeles.

Chris

I-270 SB - 386 miles away from Tulsa

Good one.  I'm getting 365 miles though from the closest I-270 gets from Tulsa city limits.

Chris

[hbelkins]

Going through pictures today and saw that the split of eastbound I-84 from southbound I-15 is signed for Cheyenne. Not sure how far away Cheyenne is from the eastern terminus of I-84, but I-84 definitely doesn't enter Wyoming at all.

"Control cities for which the route doesn't enter the state." Sounds like a good subject for a new thread, with I-84 Cheyenne and I-80 New York City being the first two examples.

[Roadgeekteen]

Going through pictures today and saw that the split of eastbound I-84 from southbound I-15 is signed for Cheyenne. Not sure how far away Cheyenne is from the eastern terminus of I-84, but I-84 definitely doesn't enter Wyoming at all.

"Control cities for which the route doesn't enter the state." Sounds like a good subject for a new thread, with I-84 Cheyenne and I-80 New York City being the first two examples.

We've probably had threads like that.

[roadman65]

How about a city that a route totally does not go to like I-40 signing LA in AZ!  It takes two other routes to get there.

Even I-15 from Vegas uses LA, but it only needs one other route to get there.

Both were copied over from the US routes they replaced which both ended in Los Angeles.  US 66 for I-40 and US 91 for I-15 of course.

[ilpt4u]

"Control cities for which the route doesn't enter the state." Sounds like a good subject for a new thread, with I-84 Cheyenne and I-80 New York City being the first two examples.

I-57 Memphis
I-24 St Louis
I-65 Chicago - edited after SkyPesos pointed out my brainfart listing "Indianapolis"  here initially

If 3DIs are added in, this list gets much longer, much quicker

[SkyPesos]

I-65 Indianapolis

Did you mean I-65 Chicago? It definitely enters Indiana and Indianapolis.

[US20IL64]

IL has I-80 east to Indiana and west to Iowa. Used to have Toledo and Des Moines for 80 at I-55 interchange, not sure when changed to states.
Also, Wisconsin and Milwaukee are here and there for 94/294 signs.

[amroad17]

One I just found which might be the leader for 3dis at the moment: I-580 (CA) - 284 miles away from Los Angeles.

Chris

I-270 SB - 386 miles away from Tulsa

In the same area, I-255 is 394 miles from Tulsa at the split with IL 3 in Columbia, IL.
https://goo.gl/maps/yo55htp5SXjM2Rmo6
The famous post-interchange mileage sign on I-255 toward Missouri...
https://goo.gl/maps/DzFbdGavxaceHATSA

[ilpt4u]

One I just found which might be the leader for 3dis at the moment: I-580 (CA) - 284 miles away from Los Angeles.

Chris

I-270 SB - 386 miles away from Tulsa

In the same area, I-255 is 394 miles from Tulsa at the split with IL 3 in Columbia, IL.
https://goo.gl/maps/yo55htp5SXjM2Rmo6
The famous post-interchange mileage sign on I-255 toward Missouri...
https://goo.gl/maps/DzFbdGavxaceHATSA

Tulsa is signed on I-255 a few miles further northeast, at the I-64/IL interchange, also, so that puts it over 400 miles. IL 3 is Exit 6, I-64 is Exit 20...so we'll say 408 miles from Tulsa

Looks like the Google SV car had made a trip down I-255 SB in IL since the reconstruction project! They now have the new sign that was put up here posted: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6278649,-90.067596,3a,75y,187.88h,99.07t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQS3TxKXC04p9FCmxSyiVBg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DQS3TxKXC04p9FCmxSyiVBg%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D300.89832%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192