If federal law allows new toll highways...

[hbelkins]

I think named highways are more distinctive and memorable than just numbers.  Especially if the numbers are all x80.

If the signage is significantly distinctive.

Kentucky's parkway signage all looks the same now, and the state's a worse place for it.

[froggie]

^ Not just that.  I would argue that naming the Kentucky Parkways after people (including one still living) instead of keeping the old names further contributed to the degradation.

[hbelkins]

^ Not just that.  I would argue that naming the Kentucky Parkways after people (including one still living) instead of keeping the old names further contributed to the degradation.

Julian Carroll -- still living.

Wendell Ford -- assumed room temperature, and may have been living when his name was put on the WK Parkway

Edward Breathitt -- pushing up daisies

William Natcher -- now below ground, but the road was renamed from Green River Parkway while he was still alive.

Louie B. Nunn -- in a box, and I honestly can't remember if he was still alive or not when the name was added

John James Audubon -- very much deceased, then and now

Martha Layne Collins -- still breathing

Bert T. Combs -- was alive when his name was added to the Mountain Parkway, and in fact he had moved to a home in Powell County within a few miles of the route.

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I don't mind the adding of the names if the signage was done with supplemental plaques such as was done with Combs and the Mountain Parkway.

[XamotCGC]

^ Not just that.  I would argue that naming the Kentucky Parkways after people (including one still living) instead of keeping the old names further contributed to the degradation.

Julian Carroll -- still living.

Wendell Ford -- assumed room temperature, and may have been living when his name was put on the WK Parkway

Edward Breathitt -- pushing up daisies

William Natcher -- now below ground, but the road was renamed from Green River Parkway while he was still alive.

Louie B. Nunn -- in a box, and I honestly can't remember if he was still alive or not when the name was added

John James Audubon -- very much deceased, then and now

Martha Layne Collins -- still breathing

Bert T. Combs -- was alive when his name was added to the Mountain Parkway, and in fact he had moved to a home in Powell County within a few miles of the route.

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I don't mind the adding of the names if the signage was done with supplemental plaques such as was done with Combs and the Mountain Parkway.

WK Parkway name changed occurred in July 1998. It was done in honor of Ford retiring from the Senate.

[Scott5114]

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I think it's not just that Hal Rogers was still alive when the renaming happened (which is certainly part of it), but the fact that it was already named after a person, probably one that most people have a more positive association with than Rogers.

[ztonyg]

Not every limited access highway needs to be an interstate 

In fact one might argue there is too many three digit Interstates already.  How is a glut of similarly numbered three digit Interstates any better than freeways carrying state highway numbers in terms of navigation?

You know, I never thought about it that way. At least if every state had its own SH-295 the shields would distinguish between them, instead of having the same I-295 shield on several disparate highways.

On a related note, I sometimes wonder if locals in some cities (Chicago, for example)  have the right idea referring to their freeways by name rather than number.  There may be 3 I-290's in existence, but there's only one 290 associated with "the Eisenhower".  It can also have the added benefit of indicating which side of town you're talking about...for instance, if someone says "the Dan Ryan" you instantly know it's south of Downtown versus wondering which part of 90/94 is jammed up now.

babbling

Pot, meet kettle.

Naming highways is great if you live there or are at least familiar with the area.  But it doesn't help you much if you aren't from there and need to either go to or through Chicago.  Numbers are just easier.

I like names better when they're useful. The Ventura Freeway goes to Ventura. The Northwest Tollway (when it was still called that) ran northwest from Chicago. But you're correct that names like Chrysler Freeway and Mark Twain Expressway aren't very helpful to traveling motorists and most highway names don't give any useful info to the driver.

The Phoenix Loop Freeways all have names that are necessary to differentiate where one might be in the system. While oftentimes they are just referred to by their number a lot of times ADOT and traffic reporters refer to them as the following:

Loop 101 - Auga Fria
Loop 101 - Pima
Loop 101 - Price
Loop 202 - Red Mountain
Loop 202 - Santan
Loop 202 - South Mountain

Also going back to the Chrysler Freeway it actually does serve a purpose because I-75 in Detroit follows two different freeways (the Fisher which ends at M-3 Gratiot Ave and the Chrysler which has a southern segment designated as I-375). If / when I-375 is removed I believe the plan is to make I-75 a continuous through route in Detroit but it hasn't occurred as of yet.

[Rothman]

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I think it's not just that Hal Rogers was still alive when the renaming happened (which is certainly part of it), but the fact that it was already named after a person, probably one that most people have a more positive association with than Rogers.

Even though Daniel Boone outright abandoned his wife and kids...

[HighwayStar]

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I think it's not just that Hal Rogers was still alive when the renaming happened (which is certainly part of it), but the fact that it was already named after a person, probably one that most people have a more positive association with than Rogers.

Even though Daniel Boone outright abandoned his wife and kids...

I would say that is a gross simplification of his story, and in any case being a perfect family man is not a requirement to opening the frontier to settlement, which is by far more noteworthy of his accomplishments.

[Rothman]

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I think it's not just that Hal Rogers was still alive when the renaming happened (which is certainly part of it), but the fact that it was already named after a person, probably one that most people have a more positive association with than Rogers.

Even though Daniel Boone outright abandoned his wife and kids...

I would say that is a gross simplification of his story, and in any case being a perfect family man is not a requirement to opening the frontier to settlement, which is by far more noteworthy of his accomplishments.

That is a very interesting hierarchy of moral priorities you have there.

Yep, he opened the frontier.  Yep, he was also a jerk of the nth degree.

[hotdogPi]

Pretty much everyone important before 1900 has done something that could be seen as a reason to declare them bad enough to be "canceled", just because standards were different back then.

[SEWIGuy]

No one is being "cancelled."  Choosing to no longer honor people because society has different standards has been around since the dawn of civilization. 

[Max Rockatansky]

If you guys think "Cancel Culture"  is bad check out:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

[SEWIGuy]

If you guys think "Cancel Culture"  is bad check out:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

Yep.  Also look at the number of former Greek cities that have been completely renamed in modern Turkey.  Or cities with German names that have been renamed in Eastern Europe.

[seicer]

Now we have to be woke and cancel Daniel Boone returned home after a long absence of travel to find that his wife had given birth to a daughter that had been fathered by his brother? And that his wife (Rebecca) had assumed that he was dead? And that he did raise the girl as his own child? Okay, can we be more woke by canceling Boone because he was out discovering new territory and frontiers while his wife was borking around with his brother? Part of this is potentially lore, but his leaving Rebecca is not entirely accurate.

I do remember that the parkway (as in other parkways in Kentucky) had unique signs. During the Fletcher administration, they normalized all signs with letters but made the shields unreadable at high speeds because they wanted to add unnecessary text to the borders. It's made worse in many cases because the road name itself isn't legible or even there at all. The old symbols were easily recognizable: tree/mountain/winding road for the Mountain Parkway, Daniel Boone for the Daniel Boone Parkway, etc. Others were really generic, with a supersized A and lowercase udubon for the Audubon Parkway.

- On too many highways, this sign is unreadable at higher speeds. It's not that much of an issue here because of the slower speeds, but if this district would use larger signs that are used in other districts, the sign could be more legible: https://goo.gl/maps/fCRpqXc2CAus9Yw57

- This example is better because "MOUNTAIN PARKWAY" is spelled out next to the shield, which is all but unreadable at 70 MPH: https://goo.gl/maps/e9RYsqCuHZK35Ecv9

Then you have the Industrial Parkway, which is only signed on guide signs at the terminuses and ramps: https://goo.gl/maps/YtNu4aYKtLqjPBM49

[HighwayStar]

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I think it's not just that Hal Rogers was still alive when the renaming happened (which is certainly part of it), but the fact that it was already named after a person, probably one that most people have a more positive association with than Rogers.

Even though Daniel Boone outright abandoned his wife and kids...

I would say that is a gross simplification of his story, and in any case being a perfect family man is not a requirement to opening the frontier to settlement, which is by far more noteworthy of his accomplishments.

That is a very interesting hierarchy of moral priorities you have there.

Yep, he opened the frontier.  Yep, he was also a jerk of the nth degree.

What he did for his nation greatly outweighed whatever he failed to do for his family. Ben Franklin was also not a great family man, but again, his contributions to our nation more than make up for that.
Now if a guy is a poor family man and also just deals drugs for a living, then sure, that is reprehensible.

[epzik8]

Not every limited access highway needs to be an interstate 

Take note of where tolbs17 lives. North Carolina's DOT is obsessed with designating Interstates wherever possible.

They're not one of my favorite DOTs.

[HighwayStar]

Not every limited access highway needs to be an interstate 

Take note of where tolbs17 lives. North Carolina's DOT is obsessed with designating Interstates wherever possible.

They're not one of my favorite DOTs.

Interstate designations should be a federal issue anyway.

[Rothman]

I know that most of the heartburn is associated with renaming the Daniel Boone Parkway for Hal Rogers, but he's not the first politician to have a parkway renamed for him while he was still alive (see Natcher above.)

I think it's not just that Hal Rogers was still alive when the renaming happened (which is certainly part of it), but the fact that it was already named after a person, probably one that most people have a more positive association with than Rogers.

Even though Daniel Boone outright abandoned his wife and kids...

I would say that is a gross simplification of his story, and in any case being a perfect family man is not a requirement to opening the frontier to settlement, which is by far more noteworthy of his accomplishments.

That is a very interesting hierarchy of moral priorities you have there.

Yep, he opened the frontier.  Yep, he was also a jerk of the nth degree.

What he did for his nation greatly outweighed whatever he failed to do for his family. Ben Franklin was also not a great family man, but again, his contributions to our nation more than make up for that.
Now if a guy is a poor family man and also just deals drugs for a living, then sure, that is reprehensible.

Like I said, your moral compass is intriguing.

[Rothman]

Now we have to be woke and cancel Daniel Boone returned home after a long absence of travel to find that his wife had given birth to a daughter that had been fathered by his brother? And that his wife (Rebecca) had assumed that he was dead? And that he did raise the girl as his own child? Okay, can we be more woke by canceling Boone because he was out discovering new territory and frontiers while his wife was borking around with his brother?

You've left out half the story which is easily determined by a critical read of your description.

[tolbs17]

Can anyone make a map of tolled highways in the state/ country? I can't seem to find any link that is about them.

[Max Rockatansky]

Can anyone make a map of tolled highways in the state/ country? I can't seem to find any link that is about them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

[tolbs17]

Can anyone make a map of tolled highways in the state/ country? I can't seem to find any link that is about them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

I meant to say a map of the highways highlighted.

[Max Rockatansky]

Can anyone make a map of tolled highways in the state/ country? I can't seem to find any link that is about them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

I meant to say a map of the highways highlighted.

You could always build one yourself, you have a list. 

[tolbs17]

Can anyone make a map of tolled highways in the state/ country? I can't seem to find any link that is about them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_toll_roads_in_the_United_States

I meant to say a map of the highways highlighted.

You could always build one yourself, you have a list.

ok

[skluth]

If you guys think "Cancel Culture"  is bad check out:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

Yep.  Also look at the number of former Greek cities that have been completely renamed in modern Turkey.  Or cities with German names that have been renamed in Eastern Europe.

A lot of those old German cities in Poland also had Polish identities dating back to at least the Kingdom of Poland. Many became German due to Prussian expansionism.

OTOH, if you're discussing Konigsberg/Kaliningrad, I'm good.