New cities

[Poiponen13]

I present you the climate of Souky. Both in Celsius and Fahrenheit.
In format Jan-Feb-Mar-Apr-May-Jun-Jul-Aug-Sep-Oct-Nov-Dec.
Celsius
Maximum temperature: -28,-26,-22,-18,-7,+2,+8,+5,-1,-9,-20,-27
Mean temperature: -31,-30,-29,-24,-10,+1,+6,+2,-3,-11,-23,-30
Minimum temperature: -35,-33,-31,-26,-12,-2,+3,+1,-5,-16,-26,-33

Fahrenheit

Some questions:

1.  What's up with your ridiculous and non-functioning [size] tags (I removed them from this quote)?

2.  Is Fahrenheit weather prohibited by law, or does it just not exist for some other reason?

3.  Are these maximums and minimums actually enforced, or are other temperatures permitted de facto?
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[size]
1. An accidental highlighting.
2. I didn't have time to do Fahrenheit. I was in a hurry.
3. These are averages. Source. The record high would be -5C in January and +20C in July, and record low would be -55C in January and -10C in July.[/size]

[Poiponen13]

Souky would at least be cool in summer. The climate would be tundra climate (ET). But the summer temperatures could rise above 10C so the climate would be subarctic (Dfc) now.

[kphoger]

All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.

[Poiponen13]

All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.

But it could warm.

[kphoger]

All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.

But it could warm.

It's a figment of your own imagination.  You tell me:  will it warm?

[GaryV]

All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.

But it could warm.

But when it warms, the sea level will go up and half the town will be flooded. The other half will be terrorized by ravenous polar bears who can no longer hunt on the sea ice.

[Joseph R P]

All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.

But it could warm.

But if it warms, Alaska will need to find a new state bird, because every mosquito will try to be first in line in making their way over to Souky!

[Max Rockatansky]

All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.

But it could warm.

But if it warms, Alaska will need to find a new state bird, because every mosquito will try to be first in line in making their way over to Souky!

Guys, if it get warms in Alaska just adopt the mindset of Dale Gribble. 

[Scott5114]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

[kphoger]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

The city of Yakutsk, mentioned earlier, is indeed one of only two large-ish cities in the world to have year-round permafrost.

[Poiponen13]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.

[Scott5114]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.

It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of people who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.

[kalvado]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.

It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of pe
ople who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.

There are always economic reasons behind cities. Being a port in a mild climate with ample agriculture is a no brainer. Others may be less obvious.
In case of Yakutsk that reason is diamonds.

[Rothman]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.

It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of pe
ople who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.

There are always economic reasons behind cities. Being a port in a mild climate with ample agriculture is a no brainer. Others may be less obvious.
In case of Yakutsk that reason is diamonds.

See also Murmansk...

[kphoger]

A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.

Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.

It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of people who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.

There are always economic reasons behind cities. Being a port in a mild climate with ample agriculture is a no brainer. Others may be less obvious.
In case of Yakutsk that reason is diamonds.

Hence my question:

How many people would still be moving to Yakutsk, if you took away the diamond mines?

[hotdogPi]

You could be asking the same about Phoenix...

[CoreySamson]

You could be asking the same about Phoenix...

Phoenix at least has a climate that retirees tend to like and semi-interesting scenery. Nobody wants to live in a cold, barren, flat wasteland with no natural resources.

[kphoger]

Remine me again.  What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?

[Poiponen13]

Remine me again.  What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?

72.40N, 118.00W.

[kphoger]

Remine me again.  What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?

72.40N, 118.00W.

Ah, thank you.

I see that somewhat-nearby Holman (now officially called Ulukhaktok) had no permanent population until the Hudson's Bay Company opened a store there, and that the population has never reached 500 during its history.  Its economy has historically consisted chiefly of (1) the sale of craft products made from local materials like sealskin, which continues today, especially printmaking, and (2) the trade of natural resources such as furs, which dropped off significantly in the last century.

Why has this town not already attracted people to move there and swell its size?  Why would Souky do better?

[Poiponen13]

Remine me again.  What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?

72.40N, 118.00W.

Ah, thank you.

I see that somewhat-nearby Holman (now officially called Ulukhaktok) had no permanent population until the Hudson's Bay Company opened a store there, and that the population has never reached 500 during its history.  Its economy has historically consisted chiefly of (1) the sale of craft products made from local materials like sealskin, which continues today, especially printmaking, and (2) the trade of natural resources such as furs, which dropped off significantly in the last century.

Why has this town not already attracted people to move there and swell its size?  Why would Souky do better?

I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.

[kphoger]

I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.

Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town?  What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?

[Poiponen13]

I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.

Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town?  What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?

Because Souky is more attractive.

[kphoger]

I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.

Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town?  What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?

Because Souky is more attractive.

What about it would be more attractive?

[Poiponen13]

I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.

Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town?  What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?

Because Souky is more attractive.

What about it would be more attractive?

Longer midnight sun and polar night, as well as civil polar night, what Holman doesn't experience.