NYC Congestion Pricing

[Plutonic Panda]

And so, congestion pricing will begin in two months. There's no going back now.

I believe there is a pending case in the US District Court in Newark and that the judge has promised a ruling well in advance of June 30. So never say never.

Never.

hopefully

Finland

The ghost of p13 enters the room

Oh you can always count on that

[ixnay]

And so, congestion pricing will begin in two months. There's no going back now.

I believe there is a pending case in the US District Court in Newark and that the judge has promised a ruling well in advance of June 30. So never say never.

Here's some links at https://tinyurl.com/2vtr4fp4 .

Wasn't the possibility of such a case being filed discussed upthread?

[SectorZ]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/business/ny-gov-hochul-delays-indefinitely-controversial-nyc-congestion-pricing-plan/index.html

For now it's not happening.

If it never happens, every politician involved should be personally responsible for all the money spent to implement it.

[SignBridge]

Yeah, I'm sure all that overhead camera equipment didn't come cheap.....

[LilianaUwU]

Of course, the NUMTOTs are whining on Twitter. (To be fair, when are they ever not whining?)

[NoGoodNamesAvailable]

Yeah, I'm sure all that overhead camera equipment didn't come cheap.....

Half a billion dollars, to be precise.

[jeffandnicole]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/business/ny-gov-hochul-delays-indefinitely-controversial-nyc-congestion-pricing-plan/index.html

For now it's not happening.

If it never happens, every politician involved should be personally responsible for all the money spent to implement it.

The right way is to vote out the politicians and show that people won't stand for this waste.

[Max Rockatansky]

Similarly the San Diego mileage tax was also shelved at the figurative last minute.  Near term trying to push for stuff like mileage taxes and congestion pricing is the quickest way to commit political suicide.

[TheDon102]

Well it looks like the cars have finally won a battle.

[Roadgeek Adam]

As someone who would want far more drastic things (banning taxis, rideshares and police cars from the island of Manhattan), I'm thrilled the IOU bill died. Now the MTA needs to grow a pair and ignore the governor.

[LilianaUwU]

Yeah, I'm sure all that overhead camera equipment didn't come cheap.....

Half a billion dollars, to be precise.

Meanwhile, people can't afford to put food on their table.

[Roadgeek Adam]

Yeah, I'm sure all that overhead camera equipment didn't come cheap.....

Half a billion dollars, to be precise.

Meanwhile, people can't afford to put food on their table.

That's because people don't vote for socialists like moi. #TransGovnuh26

[TheDon102]

As someone who would want far more drastic things (banning taxis, rideshares and police cars from the island of Manhattan), I'm thrilled the IOU bill died. Now the MTA needs to grow a pair and ignore the governor.

While we're at it lets also ban trucks too!

[Roadgeek Adam]

As someone who would want far more drastic things (banning taxis, rideshares and police cars from the island of Manhattan), I'm thrilled the IOU bill died. Now the MTA needs to grow a pair and ignore the governor.

While we're at it lets also ban trucks too!

The reason I wouldnt is businesses need their deliveries. However, I would love to make a setup where trucks unload in certain areas in 5 block ranges to block as few streets as possible.

[TheDon102]

As someone who would want far more drastic things (banning taxis, rideshares and police cars from the island of Manhattan), I'm thrilled the IOU bill died. Now the MTA needs to grow a pair and ignore the governor.

Business should use cargo bikes instead of trucks.

While we're at it lets also ban trucks too!

The reason I wouldnt is businesses need their deliveries. However, I would love to make a setup where trucks unload in certain areas in 5 block ranges to block as few streets as possible.

Businesses should use cargo bikes instead.

[Plutonic Panda]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

[kalvado]

As someone who would want far more drastic things (banning taxis, rideshares and police cars from the island of Manhattan), I'm thrilled the IOU bill died. Now the MTA needs to grow a pair and ignore the governor.

Business should use cargo bikes instead of trucks.

While we're at it lets also ban trucks too!

The reason I wouldnt is businesses need their deliveries. However, I would love to make a setup where trucks unload in certain areas in 5 block ranges to block as few streets as possible.

Businesses should use cargo bikes instead.

It would take at least 2 bikes to bring a steel beam for highrise construction.

[Roadgeek Adam]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

[Plutonic Panda]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

Then you're crazy.

[Roadgeek Adam]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

Then you're crazy.

Based on what? I've got no problem with a massive reduction on vehicles in the island of Manhattan. Probably some day after we're all dead, it'll probably be car free entirely. We don't need to have cars everywhere.

[LilianaUwU]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

Then you're crazy.

What, for not wanting the most dangerous drivers on the road?

[Max Rockatansky]

Maybe it is a good time to get the subject back on topic?  Bringing in fictional concepts of fully getting rid of motorized road going vehicles was never going to head anywhere productive.  I'm not saying the discussion on said topic doesn't have merit, but it probably isn't here. 

[Plutonic Panda]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

Then you're crazy.

What, for not wanting the most dangerous drivers on the road?

Do you care to back that statement up?

[LilianaUwU]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

Then you're crazy.

What, for not wanting the most dangerous drivers on the road?

Do you care to back that statement up?

I don't need to cite that the sky is blue.

[Plutonic Panda]

No they shouldn't. They use box trucks which can move much more freight at once. Some of these latest posts seem like trolling and I'm surprised weren't taken down due to the political conjecture.

They aren't trolling. I legit believe what I'm saying and proposed legitimate ideas in my book.

Then you're crazy.

What, for not wanting the most dangerous drivers on the road?

Do you care to back that statement up?

I don't need to cite that the sky is blue.

Good to know.