Some students are returning to school with new bans in effect

[Max Rockatansky]

How is black associated with mental illness? 

[bugo]

I think school dress codes in general suck.

They're anti-American.

Because the American military doesn't have a dress code or anything.

Should we run public schools like the military? This is the dumbest thing I've heard since the school's justification of wearing black clothes.

[bugo]

How is black associated with mental illness? 

It's a way to discriminate against kids who follow a left hand path or just like music. If you go to a rock concert or even a country or pop concert, most of the shirts for sale will be black. It doesn't mean you're depressed. This guy is a fucking idiot.

If I went to this school, I'd buy the most obnoxiously bright clothes that I could find. A hunter orange shirt, pink socks, red pants or something else that looks ridiculous and doesn't match.

[Max Rockatansky]

But what is the actual basis being used as a justification?  I can't find a solid citation which notes this to be a thing with black colors.  I assumed it was pseudo-science item or some social trending thing I wasn't aware of. 

[bugo]

But what is the actual basis being used as a justification?  I can't find a solid citation which notes this to be a thing with black colors.  I assumed it was pseudo-science item or some social trending thing I wasn't aware of. 

It's nonsense.

[JayhawkCO]

I think school dress codes in general suck.

They're anti-American.

Because the American military doesn't have a dress code or anything.

Should we run public schools like the military? This is the dumbest thing I've heard since the school's justification of wearing black clothes.

You were the one that extrapolated something that happens in the schools to be "anti-American". I just provided an example to show that America has plenty of official dress codes.

[Molandfreak]

Because the American military doesn't have a dress code or anything.

Members of the military are generally expected to temporarily give up personal freedoms while they serve. (Other freedoms members of the military give up include freedom of movement, the right to publicly endorse political candidates, and the right to decline vaccines.) This is generally known to you at the time you enlist.

You can, during normal times, choose whether or not you want to be in the military. Going to school isn't much of a choice. (Theoretically you can drop out at a certain point, but this puts you at a massive disadvantage in life, while declining to join the military does not.)

Military dress codes serve a functional purpose: you want to know if the people you're thinking about shooting at are friends or enemies. A school dress code does not have a similar functional purpose.

Even in the military, it's impossible to implement uniform code universally and fairly. If I were to start attending a gurdwara and wearing my hair in a turban, I wouldn't be required to change my physical appearance in order to join.

Similarly, I doubt these schools would (or could) require Muslim girls to wear a light-colored hijab

[SEWIGuy]

"Meantime, in El Paso, Texas, students at one middle school are encouraged to pick from lighter parts of the color wheel as they plan their outfits for the school day. Charles Middle School Principal Nick DeSantis informed parents all-black clothing is banned this school year due to it being associated with mental health issues like depression"

That explains a lot.

That may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

It is condescending to those of us with mental illnesses. I hope somebody sues.

You can't sue for being condescending.

[Stephane Dumas]

Do you think we should bring back the telegraph? Abacuses? Carburetors?

There's a reason those technologies are obsolete.

Not going that far back but as a old saying said "what's old is new again" with vinyl records and casettes are popular among hipsters.

[jeffandnicole]

"Meantime, in El Paso, Texas, students at one middle school are encouraged to pick from lighter parts of the color wheel as they plan their outfits for the school day. Charles Middle School Principal Nick DeSantis informed parents all-black clothing is banned this school year due to it being associated with mental health issues like depression"

That explains a lot.

That may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

It is condescending to those of us with mental illnesses. I hope somebody sues.

You can't sue for being condescending.

You can sue for anything.

You probably can't win a lawsuit for someone having been condescending.

[kkt]

in some cases banning hoodies and all-black clothing
As for dress codes... again good idea.

What in the name of authoritarianism is this? You think banning black clothes is a good idea? What the fuck? This is conformist nonsense, and discriminates against heavy metal fans. What is their excuse for banning black clothes? It sounds like they want to fuck with the kids who are individuals. This school obviously wants its students to be mindless robots who don't have opinions and don't complain when they're being fucked in the ass.   

Black clothes are banned in my house. They show cat hair too easily. 

Seriously, I agree. If you're going to ban black clothing, why not dark navy blue?

I think school dress codes in general suck.

Yes.  Kids will figure out what to wear based on their peer groups and what they like.  There's no reason to go spend a lot of energy trying to devise and enforce a dress code.

[mgk920]

Also, certain color schemes are associated with certain criminal gangs in some places.

Mike

[GaryV]

"Meantime, in El Paso, Texas, students at one middle school are encouraged to pick from lighter parts of the color wheel as they plan their outfits for the school day. Charles Middle School Principal Nick DeSantis informed parents all-black clothing is banned this school year due to it being associated with mental health issues like depression"

That explains a lot.

That may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

It is condescending to those of us with mental illnesses. I hope somebody sues.

You can't sue for being condescending.

Thank you for being so condescending.

[Max Rockatansky]

Also, certain color schemes are associated with certain criminal gangs in some places.

Mike

Right, which is why I asked about what the actual reference was being used by this school district. 

[SEWIGuy]

"Meantime, in El Paso, Texas, students at one middle school are encouraged to pick from lighter parts of the color wheel as they plan their outfits for the school day. Charles Middle School Principal Nick DeSantis informed parents all-black clothing is banned this school year due to it being associated with mental health issues like depression"

That explains a lot.

That may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

It is condescending to those of us with mental illnesses. I hope somebody sues.

You can't sue for being condescending.

Thank you for being so condescending.

Sue me.

[bugo]

You can't sue for being condescending.

Did I say that? No. You can sue for anything you want to. You might not win, but you can sue for discrimination.

[bugo]

Sue me.

I wouldn't want to give you the pleasure of seeing your name on the court docket.

[bandit957]

The fascism grows.

[bandit957]

Our schools are criminal enterprises.

We all need to band together and start suing schools.

[bugo]

Now I've seen the term "wokeness" used in so many different contexts, I have no idea what it means anymore.

It means something different to each person. The conservatives use it as an insult, while the libs think it's great. I personally wouldn't use that term if I were "woke" because nobody can agree on the definition.

[GaryV]

We all need to band together and start suing schools.

Why? Are they condescending?

[SectorZ]

We all need to band together and start suing schools.

Start taking a look at the mirror if you want to see who would be paying for it.

We don't need suing, we just need to get these people removed from the world of education. Make elected school committees do their job.

[Max Rockatansky]

I don't have kids.  Therefore I'm not losing sleep over weird things educators do like banning black clothes. 

[7/8]

Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't mind a school uniform? For elementary school (JK-Grade 8), there was no uniform, but high school (Grade 9-12) had a uniform. The uniform didn't bother me at all, and it was actually kind of convenient.

I think school dress codes in general suck.

They're anti-American.

Because the American military doesn't have a dress code or anything.

Should we run public schools like the military? This is the dumbest thing I've heard since the school's justification of wearing black clothes.

You were the one that extrapolated something that happens in the schools to be "anti-American". I just provided an example to show that America has plenty of official dress codes.

For sure! Retail jobs often have uniforms, some professions have formal dress codes, etc. Also, is there anything more American than the military?

[bandit957]

We should all be able to agree that the burgeoning fascism must end.