NFL (2020-2024)

[JayhawkCO]

Minnesota; they're starting out the same way they did last year.  Quite well with a new, old QB at the helm.

 

We started 0-3 last year with a QB who had played for us for 6 years.

We pretty much started the exact opposite way last year.

[triplemultiplex]

Why is it my memory that they started fine and that Cousins had just got there?
 

[JayhawkCO]

Why is it my memory that they started fine and that Cousins had just got there?
 

Cousins obviously been there for a long time. We started shit (0-3) but actually got up to 6-4 before we were shit again.

[webny99]

Who had the Bucs, Saints, Vikings and Seahawks as the only 2-0 teams in the NFC after two weeks? Those same teams all being 0-2 would have been less of a surprise, but now one or more of them will likely make the playoffs.

[epzik8]

Who had the Bucs, Saints, Vikings and Seahawks as the only 2-0 teams in the NFC after two weeks? Those same teams all being 0-2 would have been less of a surprise, but now one or more of them will likely make the playoffs.

Tbh, I massively respect the Mayfield/Evans connection.

[thspfc]

The Texans have taken their first two games of a season for the first time since 2016, and now this year is their eighth (8th) time in Texans history they started out 2-0.  Only one of those years did they extend their winning streak past two games before their first loss and that was the 2012 season where they started out 5-0, all five of those games they had double-digit leads.

If the Texans want their second 3-0 start of all-time, they will have to do something never before done ever in franchise history -- beat the Minnesota Vikings -- this Sunday afternoon.  The Vikings are undefeated against the Texans...a perfect 5-0 record.  So history favors betting on the Vikings and if they prevail yet again, they'll extend their undefeated streak to 6-0 all time against the Texans.

I unfortunately will not be at this game as I originally planned, but I will see the Texans' rivals in Minneapolis in week 9. Based on how the season has started I'm regretting my choice, but oh well. Might actually see a home team win, which I never have before at an NFL game.

[Henry]

Who had the Bucs, Saints, Vikings and Seahawks as the only 2-0 teams in the NFC after two weeks? Those same teams all being 0-2 would have been less of a surprise, but now one or more of them will likely make the playoffs.

The AFC side has the Bills, Steelers, Texans, Chargers and Chiefs at 2-0, so that's a total of nine in the entire league.

Tom Brady sucks as a broadcaster.  I don't care what you know as an analyst, if you've got an annoying voice, you're a poor fit for the job.  And that obnoxious commercial Fox has with him makes me want to put an axe thru my TV.  Like they want me to hate him.

Why, winning seven Super Bowl rings as a QB is no longer enough reason to hate him?

[jlam]

That was an insane week. A ton of upsets. 9-7 record, but it could've very easily been worse.

Bills 26 @ Dolphins 21 (16 pts off)
Saints 20 @ Cowboys 29 (34 pts off)
Buccaneers 28 @ Lions 33 (25 pts off)
Colts 19 @ Packers 22 (15 pts off)
Jets 19 @ Titans 14 (8 pts off)
49ers 27 @ Vikings 20 (13 pts off)
Seahawks 20 @ Patriots 10 (13 pts off)
Giants 6 @ Commanders 21 (12 pts off)
Chargers 24 @ Panthers 13 (12 pts off)
Browns 20 @ Jaguars 23 (12 pts off)
Raiders 23 @ Ravens 35 (15 pts off)
Rams 28 @ Cardinals 22 (37 pts off)
Steelers 16 @ Broncos 13 (10 pts off)
Bengals 27 @ Chiefs 28 (4 pts off)
Bears 15 @ Texans 24 (7 pts off)
Falcons 20 @ Eagles 30 (11 pts off)

And here are this week's predictions:

Patriots 13 @ Jets 18
Giants 14 @ Browns 27
Packers 20 @ Titans 16
Bears 23 @ Colts 21
Texans 28 @ Vikings 24
Eagles 26 @ Saints 34
Chargers 14 @ Steelers 12
Broncos 10 @ Buccaneers 28
Panthers 7 @ Raiders 22
Dolphins 17 @ Seahawks 27
Ravens 26 @ Cowboys 24
49ers 21 @ Rams 13
Lions 29 @ Cardinals 27
Chiefs 23 @ Falcons 20
Jaguars 13 @ Bills 26
Commanders 20 @ Bengals 24

Another primetime survivor pick.

[webny99]

Who had the Bucs, Saints, Vikings and Seahawks as the only 2-0 teams in the NFC after two weeks? Those same teams all being 0-2 would have been less of a surprise, but now one or more of them will likely make the playoffs.

The AFC side has the Bills, Steelers, Texans, Chargers and Chiefs at 2-0, so that's a total of nine in the entire league.

All else being equal you'd expect there to be about eight, with eight 0-2 teams, and the remaining (16) teams being 1-1.

In fact there are nine 0-2 teams and only 14 teams with a 1-1 record. However, 2/3 of those winless teams are in the AFC, so it is safe to say through two weeks that the AFC is shaping up to be a conference of the haves and have-nots, while the NFC is a lot more muddled.

[hobsini2]

Still laughing how Dallas got thumped by New Orleans Sunday.  After all the hype about how CeeDee and Dax need to deliver after getting paid.

Minnesota; they're starting out the same way they did last year.  Quite well with a new, old QB at the helm.

I've seen a lot of Caleb Williams in my market so far this season.  Nothing feels that different from the early days of Bears' previous high draft picks at QB so far.  The same flashes of talent with the same flashes of "oh he's running for his life again."

It's a good thing the Colts run defense is abysmal and they're still breaking in a rookie QB, otherwise the Pack would be 0-2.  Willis did okay, but I don't see a guy who's gonna march you down the field to come from behind late. No Love this week yet, so we'll see how this goes in Nashville.  Going to need to finish more drives than last week, I'm thinking. It's great to ground n' pound half a quarter with Jacobs, but settling for 3 too many times is going to eventually bite you.

Tom Brady sucks as a broadcaster.  I don't care what you know as an analyst, if you've got an annoying voice, you're a poor fit for the job.  And that obnoxious commercial Fox has with him makes me want to put an axe thru my TV.  Like they want me to hate him.

Oh I already hated Tom Brady. It just adds fuel to the fire. If he was one fire, I would not urinate on him to put it out. That's how much I despise him. And I'm sorry but you shouldn't just get the automatic promotion to the number 1 spot without paying your dues. Take a guy like Moose Johnston. Guy was a good fullback and has become a great analyst. Greg Olson is another one I like. The only reason why Fox did this was they wanted to counter Romo being promoted to the number 1 on CBS in his first year. And Tony is just meh to me.

[hotdogPi]

14 1-1 teams is pretty much what you'd expect.

Let's give a hypothetical example where every team plays another team of the same record in Week 2. The 16 1-0 teams will become 8 2-0 and 8 1-1, while the 0-1 teams will become 8 1-1 and 8 0-2.

The only way this can change is by 1-0 teams playing 0-1 teams. However, the 1-0 team is more likely to win because they're a better team, so it's expected to be imbalanced in favor of more 2-0s and 0-2s and fewer 1-1s.

[webny99]

However, the 1-0 team is more likely to win because they're a better team, so it's expected to be imbalanced in favor of more 2-0s and 0-2s and fewer 1-1s.

Right, that's why I said all else being equal. Of course it isn't equal because some teams are better, some teams had unexpected injuries, and a whole host of other factors.

[epzik8]

Still laughing how Dallas got thumped by New Orleans Sunday.  After all the hype about how CeeDee and Dax need to deliver after getting paid.

You and me both, brother.

[epzik8]

Andy Dalton already looking better than Bryce out there...

[ZLoth]

Looks like my Sundays are now open until the end of the year. And that game on the 27th is probably moved to a afternoon game in favor of a more competitive contest. And Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! will need to consider retirement.

Guess I'll just watch the game highlights on YouTube for the 49ers and those boys. Too cheap for Sunday Ticket, plus, I'm not a SuperFan™️.

[thspfc]

Looks like my Sundays are now open until the end of the year. And that game on the 27th is probably moved to a afternoon game in favor of a more competitive contest. And Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! will need to consider retirement.

Guess I'll just watch the game highlights on YouTube for the 49ers and those boys. Too cheap for Sunday Ticket, plus, I'm not a SuperFan™️.

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

[epzik8]

The newest meme sports fan belongs to the Dallas Cowboys.

[ZLoth]

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

Perhaps the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones should fire the Dallas Cowboys GM Jerry Jones.

[jgb191]

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

Perhaps the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones should fire the Dallas Cowboys GM Jerry Jones.

Yeah because everyone knows that Bill 0'Brien would be a better GM than Jerry Jones.  I don't know of any other GM that would have done any better.

[SEWIGuy]

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

Perhaps the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones should fire the Dallas Cowboys GM Jerry Jones.

Yeah because everyone knows that Bill 0'Brien would be a better GM than Jerry Jones.  I don't know of any other GM that would have done any better.

Are you kidding? What other franchise would keep a GM around who has failed to lead their team to a conference championship game in 30 years?

Regardless the recipe for beating the Cowboys in the playoffs has been evident the last few years. Punch them in the mouth and they mentally fall apart.

[thspfc]

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

Perhaps the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones should fire the Dallas Cowboys GM Jerry Jones.

Yeah because everyone knows that Bill 0'Brien would be a better GM than Jerry Jones.  I don't know of any other GM that would have done any better.

Jerry and Stephen (who should be mentioned, the split of power between the two is unclear but they're both heavily involved) have been fine as executives. They draft well which is the biggest thing. People trash on the Zeke contract from 2019 but 32/32 teams would have done the same thing at that time.

A valid criticism of Jerry is that he needs to shut the hell up. But Jerry is unequivocally not the main problem. The problem is what happened on the field last January. The Jonses put together a team that was far too talented for that to happen.

[SEWIGuy]

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

Perhaps the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones should fire the Dallas Cowboys GM Jerry Jones.

Yeah because everyone knows that Bill 0'Brien would be a better GM than Jerry Jones.  I don't know of any other GM that would have done any better.

Jerry and Stephen (who should be mentioned, the split of power between the two is unclear but they're both heavily involved) have been fine as executives. They draft well which is the biggest thing. People trash on the Zeke contract from 2019 but 32/32 teams would have done the same thing at that time.

A valid criticism of Jerry is that he needs to shut the hell up. But Jerry is unequivocally not the main problem. The problem is what happened on the field last January. The Jonses put together a team that was far too talented for that to happen.

Of course he's the problem. He's been the one constant figure in place overseeing all of their failures since 1995. Incompetence filters down from the top.

[jgb191]

Well I didn't start watching the NFL until 2002, but since the league had 32 teams only 13 teams have won the Super Bowl, which means the Cowboys are just one of 19 teams that had not won a Super Bowl this century.  So if you're going to blame Jerry, then blame the owners/executives of all those other teams who failed to make it too.

And if someone like Jerry have acquired enough talent to win double-digit wins for so many years per season, that person doesn't deserve blame.  The problem lies with the fans that take winning for granted, fans that think winning is too easy in the NFL, when the fact is that winning is extremely hard each and every game for every team.  Only one of 32 teams can hoist that Vince Lombardi trophy, which Jerry has three of them.

I guess I might be one of only a few fans that does not take winning for granted, that every win is hard-earned.  I look at every opponent as a formidable challenge for my team.  I'm not a pessimist, but a very cautious fan that doesn't look past the next game.

[ZLoth]

Well I didn't start watching the NFL until 2002, but since the league had 32 teams only 13 teams have won the Super Bowl, which means the Cowboys are just one of 19 teams that had not won a Super Bowl this century.  So if you're going to blame Jerry, then blame the owners/executives of all those other teams who failed to make it too.

The Dallas Cowboys last appeared in the NFC Conference Championship game in 1995. The only other NFC team to have a longer appearance drought was that Washington team in 1991. As for the AFC teams, there are two again: Miami Dolphins in 1992 and the Cleveland Browns in 1989.

[thspfc]

The loss to the Packers is going down as the most catastrophic wild card round loss of all time. The other one that comes to mind is the Double Doink, but that Bears team didn't have much of a future anyway. They weren't good enough at QB or head coach, and the shelf life of an elite defense is painfully short.

We had a real team with elite young players. And we slammed our own window shut in 28 minutes of game clock.

Perhaps the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones should fire the Dallas Cowboys GM Jerry Jones.

Yeah because everyone knows that Bill 0'Brien would be a better GM than Jerry Jones.  I don't know of any other GM that would have done any better.

Jerry and Stephen (who should be mentioned, the split of power between the two is unclear but they're both heavily involved) have been fine as executives. They draft well which is the biggest thing. People trash on the Zeke contract from 2019 but 32/32 teams would have done the same thing at that time.

A valid criticism of Jerry is that he needs to shut the hell up. But Jerry is unequivocally not the main problem. The problem is what happened on the field last January. The Jonses put together a team that was far too talented for that to happen.

Of course he's the problem. He's been the one constant figure in place overseeing all of their failures since 1995. Incompetence filters down from the top.

Had this argument with someone else a while back.

The obvious counterpoint is that by your same logic, you must believe that Robert Kraft and Clark Hunt are two of the greatest figures in the game right now.