Ohio

[carbaugh2]

It's $90 million (project link https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/projects/projects/93006) because of the 16 bridges and overpasses that are being rebuilt, rebuilding 5 miles of pavement/concrete, and it's lasting 6 years due to keeping 2 lanes open in both directions throughout the duration of the project. Unfortunately, there is no viable alternative for semis to get around Zanesville outside of using 161/37/16/36 between 270 and 77. Side note, I really wish ODOT and PennDOT would just apply to give the Columbus-Pittsburgh corridor a single US route number.

[TempoNick]

I noticed they painted the concrete on the newly rehabbed Courtright Road overpass today.

Didn't anybody think about smoothing out the bottom edge of the concrete first? It looks terrible, at least going westbound.

[TempoNick]

Are you paying attention, Ohio?

"Wednesday, the Indiana Department of Transportation said Indiana 265 will soon be known as Interstate 265, from the Interstate 65 interchange to the Lewis and Clark Bridge, connecting Clark County with eastern Jefferson County, Kentucky.

INDOT said in a news release the new name change will 'create a more functional and integrated roadway system.'"

https://www.wdrb.com/news/southern-indiana-interstate-to-be-renamed/article_96628b8c-8c21-11ef-b198-ab1bd872e9df.html

[GCrites]

What roads in Ohio would you like to see get similar treatment?

[NE2]

What roads in Ohio would you like to see get similar treatment?

I-2? I-11? Both perfect numbers for Ohio.

[vtk]

Unless/until there's actual movement towards adding an Interstate designation to a non-Interstate freeway in Ohio, such discussions should be limited to the Fictional section.

[TempoNick]

What roads in Ohio would you like to see get similar treatment?

It's not so much that roads need to be upgraded to an Interstate, it's more about what we've often talked about here in regards to consistent numbering and routes that make sense for the way people travel today. (US 23/OH 15, for example.)

[ARMOURERERIC]

Had something In my home page news feed today:  an ODot press release about US 24 In NW Ohio, did not read all of it, but saw a sentence that this would make all of US 24 between I-475 and I-469 interstate standard.  Can't find it now, anyone got more info?

[The Ghostbuster]

Does the US 24 Fort Wayne-to-Toledo corridor need to be upgraded to freeway standards along its entire route? Its upgrades were completed in 2012, and I doubt the corridor is now so inadequate that a full-freeway upgrade is now necessary.

[carbaugh2]

Had something In my home page news feed today:  an ODot press release about US 24 In NW Ohio, did not read all of it, but saw a sentence that this would make all of US 24 between I-475 and I-469 interstate standard.  Can't find it now, anyone got more info?

I don't know that it will make everything interstate standard since I don't know that area well, but https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/projects/projects/110866 is a study to remove at-grade intersections on US 24.

[JREwing78]

Looks like they're also repairing a lot of damage along US-24 from heavy clay soil that's sliding off the slopes of the roadway. https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/projects/mega-projects/mega-projects/24-slide-repairs

As noted elsewhere, there's considerable work on the Indiana side (including rebuilding the interchange at I-469) before US-24 could be upgraded to full freeway. Even if Ohio does make their section fully limited-access, it's not changing its route designation anytime soon.

[I-55]

Looks like they're also repairing a lot of damage along US-24 from heavy clay soil that's sliding off the slopes of the roadway. https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/projects/mega-projects/mega-projects/24-slide-repairs

As noted elsewhere, there's considerable work on the Indiana side (including rebuilding the interchange at I-469) before US-24 could be upgraded to full freeway. Even if Ohio does make their section fully limited-access, it's not changing its route designation anytime soon.

INDOT already has plans to complete the cloverleaf interchange with I-469. That would make it free flowing from I-469 to the state line (I say "free flowing" because of the RIRO at Bruick Rd that I doubt meets interstate standards)

[The Ghostbuster]

Is there a construction date for modifying the Interstate 469/US 24 interchange? And will all ramps be free-flow?

[TempoNick]

Does the US 24 Fort Wayne-to-Toledo corridor need to be upgraded to freeway standards along its entire route? Its upgrades were completed in 2012, and I doubt the corridor is now so inadequate that a full-freeway upgrade is now necessary.

I've never driven that road, but from everything I know about US 24, it seems like that wouldn't be too hard to do. Like US 30 in that part of the state, it's pretty close to being an interstate as it is.

[carbaugh2]

What roads in Ohio would you like to see get similar treatment?

ODOT and PennDOT should have made the Columbus to Pittsburgh corridor (https://omegadistrict.org/cpcorridor/) a reality 30 years ago when it was first proposed. It doesn't need to have a blue shield, but it should be clear for drivers with 1 US route number. The 2-lanes portions in Tuscarawas and Harrison Counties should be widened to 4 lanes with all of the truck traffic that will continue to be traveling through there due to the boom of horizontal oil wells being drilled.

[TempoNick]

What roads in Ohio would you like to see get similar treatment?

ODOT and PennDOT should have made the Columbus to Pittsburgh corridor (https://omegadistrict.org/cpcorridor/) a reality 30 years ago when it was first proposed. It doesn't need to have a blue shield, but it should be clear for drivers with 1 US route number. The 2-lanes portions in Tuscarawas and Harrison Counties should be widened to 4 lanes with all of the truck traffic that will continue to be traveling through there due to the boom of horizontal oil wells being drilled.

US 122? US 540? Or is there a retired two digit number that can be used?

[The Ghostbuster]

Will this four-laning include an extension of the existing US 36 and US 250 Uhrichsville bypass on new alignment? The way it dead-ends at this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4010766,-81.3249875,3a,75y,202.8h,72.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB77kiSOy4jQ4WOuRuLfRXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) makes the roadway seem incomplete.

[GCrites]

What roads in Ohio would you like to see get similar treatment?

ODOT and PennDOT should have made the Columbus to Pittsburgh corridor (https://omegadistrict.org/cpcorridor/) a reality 30 years ago when it was first proposed. It doesn't need to have a blue shield, but it should be clear for drivers with 1 US route number. The 2-lanes portions in Tuscarawas and Harrison Counties should be widened to 4 lanes with all of the truck traffic that will continue to be traveling through there due to the boom of horizontal oil wells being drilled.

This has probably been asked before but I guess I-70 to US-22 is not what is desired?

[carbaugh2]

This has probably been asked before but I guess I-70 to US-22 is not what is desired?

Correct. The goal has always been to create an alternative to I-70 that runs directly between Columbus and Pittsburgh. I couldn't find a proper citation, but I remember reading an article in the Newark Advocate in the mid-90s (around the time that the original New Albany bypass was opened, I think) that ODOT wasn't willing to spend approximately $1 million to sign a single route number for the duration of the route in Ohio. That always bothered me.

While I couldn't find anything on the Uhrichsville segment, I did find that $3.5 million was allocated for the preliminary engineering of a project to widen 22 between Cadiz and Hopedale. This will close a gap where there currently is a lot of oil and gas exploration and production operation traffic.

[TempoNick]

This has probably been asked before but I guess I-70 to US-22 is not what is desired?

Correct. The goal has always been to create an alternative to I-70 that runs directly between Columbus and Pittsburgh. I couldn't find a proper citation, but I remember reading an article in the Newark Advocate in the mid-90s (around the time that the original New Albany bypass was opened, I think) that ODOT wasn't willing to spend approximately $1 million to sign a single route number for the duration of the route in Ohio. That always bothered me.

While I couldn't find anything on the Uhrichsville segment, I did find that $3.5 million was allocated for the preliminary engineering of a project to widen 22 between Cadiz and Hopedale. This will close a gap where there currently is a lot of oil and gas exploration and production operation traffic.

It's not really that great of an alternative. Maybe in the future if everything is four-laned, but it seems like you waste about 15 MI going north and then south again. I think the better idea is to four lane US 22 from I-77 for a more direct connection to Pittsburgh. (I've never driven it so I have no idea if it's four lanes or not.)

One day it may be a good alternative to and from Akron and Canton to certain parts of metro Columbus. It might be one now, but I'd really like to see that two lane section turned into four lanes first. I don't see it as a good route to Pittsburgh, however.

[74/171FAN]

I believe US 22 is only two lanes between I-77 and Cadiz if I remember correctly.

[TempoNick]

I believe US 22 is only two lanes between I-77 and Cadiz if I remember correctly.

It would also deserve a blue shield like I-576. Or does this get an even number like I-876. You all figure out what number makes the most sense, but a Columbus to Pittsburgh "direct" connection makes a lot of sense to me. Same with Columbus to Toledo and Columbus to Fort Wayne.

[Bitmapped]

I believe US 22 is only two lanes between I-77 and Cadiz if I remember correctly.

It would also deserve a blue shield like I-576. Or does this get an even number like I-876. You all figure out what number makes the most sense, but a Columbus to Pittsburgh "direct" connection makes a lot of sense to me. Same with Columbus to Toledo and Columbus to Fort Wayne.

Traffic is minimal on US 22 west of Cadiz. There's no need for a 4-lane connection on this alignment, let alone a full freeway, for a routing that would save a grand total of two miles compared to I-70/I-79.

[PColumbus73]

Even though I-70 doesn't go straight into downtown Pittsburgh, it comes into the metro area. If I-70 was routed down to Morgantown, there might be a case for an Interstate along US 22.

[TempoNick]

I believe US 22 is only two lanes between I-77 and Cadiz if I remember correctly.

It would also deserve a blue shield like I-576. Or does this get an even number like I-876. You all figure out what number makes the most sense, but a Columbus to Pittsburgh "direct" connection makes a lot of sense to me. Same with Columbus to Toledo and Columbus to Fort Wayne.

Traffic is minimal on US 22 west of Cadiz. There's no need for a 4-lane connection on this alignment, let alone a full freeway, for a routing that would save a grand total of two miles compared to I-70/I-79.

Cause and effect. Perhaps that has to do with the fact that it's a two-lane road. It also depends on what part of Pittsburgh you are headed to. Would taking traffic off of I-70 be worthwhile? I don't know, but I don't think alternate ways to get to Pittsburgh and beyond would be a bad thing.