NFL (2020-2024)

[ZLoth]

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[Max Rockatansky]

Jared Goff now has a +1 turnover margin the last two weeks.   All it took was an absolute demolition of a really bad Jaguars team to get there.

[Great Lakes Roads]

The Bills broke the Chiefs' winning streak! YAY!

[epzik8]

The Bills broke the Chiefs' winning streak! YAY!

Josh Allen with the 4th down play of the year?

[jgb191]

For the second straight Sunday Night game in a row, we saw a double-digit lead by the respective home teams completely evaporate.  The only difference is tonight the Chargers were able to stop the bleeding and survive a scare, where as last Sunday Night the Texans bled to death. 

And SoFi Stadium will be the host of both night games next week:  Eagles visit the Rams on SNF, and the Ravens visit the Chargers on MNF.

[webny99]

The Bills broke the Chiefs' winning streak! YAY!

Now if someone else could beat them, we could have a race for the #1 seed. The problem being they play two of the worst teams in the league the next two weeks, so we'll *likely* have to wait until mid-December to find out if someone else will give them a second loss.

the Ravens visit the Chargers on MNF.

This is suddenly a big game for the AFC North and AFC Wild Card races. We may get to see both teams in the playoffs regardless, but the winner will have an inside track.

[webny99]

Another fork update (new in bold):

AFC:
Forked:
Patriots, Raiders, Steelers, Titans, Browns, Jaguars, Jets

Should have forked the Jets sooner, but otherwise feeling very good about this list (obviously other than the Steelers). Bengals are on watch, but unlikely to be forkable for a while given their remaining schedule, which includes two games against the Steelers.


NFC:
Forked:
Commanders, Panthers, Saints, Vikings, Giants

Not adding anyone right now, but the Bears and Cowboys are firmly on watch and could be added as soon as next week. I am also putting the 49ers on watch.

[Big John]

Daniel Jones, after signing a huge contract last year, was just benched by the Giants.

[SEWIGuy]

Daniel Jones, after signing a huge contract last year, was just benched by the Giants.

I have no idea why they ever gave him that extension. Even the year they made the playoffs, Jones was, at best, simply average.

[JayhawkCO]

They benched him now because a good chunk of his money only gets guaranteed for next year if he gets hurt. By keeping him out, they prevent that from happening.

[mgk920]

I have definitely forked the Bears.

Mike

[ET21]

Fantasy is the only thing keeping my slightest of interests intact for the NFL. Bears season is done unless they somehow pull magic out and win at least half of their remaining games to regain some sort of confidence.

What a shitshow.

[NWI_Irish96]

Fantasy is the only thing keeping my slightest of interests intact for the NFL. Bears season is done unless they somehow pull magic out and win at least half of their remaining games to regain some sort of confidence.

What a shitshow.

This season is lost, but there is some promise. Williams looks a lot better, and the new playcaller is a massive improvement. Improving the interior of the OL and DL is an absolute must to take the next step.

[JayhawkCO]

I'm a more conservative forker this year:

NE, LV, DEN, NYG

Adding CAR. Should have probably done them before the season, but the NFC South used to produce some surprises. But they looked like hot garbage.

Probably can add TEN and JAX now.

Also, still happy to take the MIN o/u 4.5 wins bet!!

Already forked: DEN, NE, LV, NYG, TEN, JAX.
Now forking: NO, DAL, NYJ, MIA

Tack on CLE. Too early to do anyone in the NFC West or North.

Already forked: DEN, NE, LV, NO, DAL, NYJ, MIA, CLE, NYG, TEN, JAX.
Now forking: CHI

I want to find a way to fork CIN, but I think there's a decent chance they can beat out the Colts and Broncos for the 7 seed at 9-8.

Still can't rule out anyone from the NFC West since no one is below .500.

[jgb191]

For the first time since Week One of the 2019 season (9/9/2019 at New Orleans), the Texans are on Monday Night Football.  During the previous decade 2010s, the Texans have averaged about one MNF game per season.  The Texans played their franchise's first MNF game in their seventh 7th season (12/3/2008 in a win vs Jacksonville).

Our MNF record is five wins and nine losses (Only one MNF went into OT, Texans lost that one hosting Baltimore on a Pick-six).  Texans only hosted three (3) MNF games in franchise history, the other 11 games were on the road as a visiting team, hence our losing record on Monday nights.

History has been a mixed bag for the Governor's Cup.  The Texans are still looking for their first win visiting the Cowboys.  But also consider this: The Texans are undefeated vs Cowboys in night games  which is the case again tonight, while the Cowboys are undefeated their Sunday afternoon matchups.  Texans franchise opener in September 2002 was one of those two night games, while the other came in 2018.

Even though the Texans are a seven-point favorite, the Cowboys with a boatload of talented players still make me very nervous.  I just hope the Texans don't take this one lightly because with the pride of Texas on the line, you just never know what could happen.  I don't buy any of this "Mike McCarthy has lost the locker room" nonsense.  I anticipate Mike McCarthy to his team fully prepared for tonight (as does DeMeco have his team ready for that matter).  And it wouldn't surprise me if this game went down to the wire as has the majority of their meetings and given the Texans pattern of last-second losses visiting an NFC opponent.  In fact the Texans most recent MNF game at New Orleans, the Saints won on a last-second, game-ending, walk-off field goal.

[SEWIGuy]

Fantasy is the only thing keeping my slightest of interests intact for the NFL. Bears season is done unless they somehow pull magic out and win at least half of their remaining games to regain some sort of confidence.

What a shitshow.

This season is lost, but there is some promise. Williams looks a lot better, and the new playcaller is a massive improvement. Improving the interior of the OL and DL is an absolute must to take the next step.

The biggest problem with the Bears is that their schedule is pretty brutal coming up. And the new tendencies on offense could be adjusted to fairly quickly.

Minnesota
at Detroit on Thanksgiving
at San Francisco
at Minnesota
Detroit

[webny99]

I want to find a way to fork CIN, but I think there's a decent chance they can beat out the Colts and Broncos for the 7 seed at 9-8.

That, or potentially even the Steelers since they play twice. The Steelers could *very* easily lose 5 of their last 7 considering their only remaining non-division games are Chiefs and Eagles. Their only two likely wins are against the Browns, but if they split there and get swept by the Bengals to finish 9-8, the Bengals would have the tiebreaker and could afford another loss elsewhere on their schedule. In that case, the Bengals could get in along with the Colts or Broncos (just not both).

[JayhawkCO]

I want to find a way to fork CIN, but I think there's a decent chance they can beat out the Colts and Broncos for the 7 seed at 9-8.

That, or potentially even the Steelers since they play twice. The Steelers could *very* easily lose 5 of their last 7 considering their only remaining non-division games are Chiefs and Eagles. Their only two likely wins are against the Browns, but if they split there and get swept by the Bengals to finish 9-8, the Bengals would have the tiebreaker and could afford another loss elsewhere on their schedule. In that case, the Bengals could get in along with the Colts or Broncos (just not both).

PIT looked great defensively against BAL yesterday and while my feelings on Russell Wilson are well known, when he's trying not to do too much, he at least keeps a very conservative offense moving. I don't see them all of a sudden falling off of a cliff despite the 5 remaining AFC North games to play.

[webny99]

I want to find a way to fork CIN, but I think there's a decent chance they can beat out the Colts and Broncos for the 7 seed at 9-8.

That, or potentially even the Steelers since they play twice. The Steelers could *very* easily lose 5 of their last 7 considering their only remaining non-division games are Chiefs and Eagles. Their only two likely wins are against the Browns, but if they split there and get swept by the Bengals to finish 9-8, the Bengals would have the tiebreaker and could afford another loss elsewhere on their schedule. In that case, the Bengals could get in along with the Colts or Broncos (just not both).

PIT looked great defensively against BAL yesterday and while my feelings on Russell Wilson are well known, when he's trying not to do too much, he at least keeps a very conservative offense moving. I don't see them all of a sudden falling off of a cliff despite the 5 remaining AFC North games to play.

I guess my point was that "not falling off a cliff" might mean going 3-2 in the division games and 3-4 overall in the best case scenario. I can't see them winning more than 3 of 5 in division, and they'll be heavy underdogs against Philly and KC.

[JayhawkCO]

I want to find a way to fork CIN, but I think there's a decent chance they can beat out the Colts and Broncos for the 7 seed at 9-8.

That, or potentially even the Steelers since they play twice. The Steelers could *very* easily lose 5 of their last 7 considering their only remaining non-division games are Chiefs and Eagles. Their only two likely wins are against the Browns, but if they split there and get swept by the Bengals to finish 9-8, the Bengals would have the tiebreaker and could afford another loss elsewhere on their schedule. In that case, the Bengals could get in along with the Colts or Broncos (just not both).

PIT looked great defensively against BAL yesterday and while my feelings on Russell Wilson are well known, when he's trying not to do too much, he at least keeps a very conservative offense moving. I don't see them all of a sudden falling off of a cliff despite the 5 remaining AFC North games to play.

I guess my point was that "not falling off a cliff" might mean going 3-2 in the division games and 3-4 overall in the best case scenario. I can't see them winning more than 3 of 5 in division, and they'll be heavy underdogs against Philly and KC.

I will disagree with your last clause. I would bet they're +4 against Philly and maybe +1 against KC assuming no injuries or anything drastic in the interim.

[webny99]

I will disagree with your last clause. I would bet they're +4 against Philly and maybe +1 against KC assuming no injuries or anything drastic in the interim.

Time will tell on that, but they'll be very tough games either way.

[NWI_Irish96]

I will repeat my long-standing assertion that the NFL needs to get rid of conferences so that we can have a Mahomes vs Allen Super Bowl.

[epzik8]

AT&T Stadium...oof.

[thspfc]

Never been a big Jim Harbuagh guy, but his impact is undeniable. In the past 5 years, how many times did the Chargers lose that exact game? Where the camera pans to Herbert on the sideline staring a thousand yards after his performance went to waste because of Brandon Staley's tragic defense and bad game management.

I want to find a way to fork CIN, but I think there's a decent chance they can beat out the Colts and Broncos for the 7 seed at 9-8.

That, or potentially even the Steelers since they play twice. The Steelers could *very* easily lose 5 of their last 7 considering their only remaining non-division games are Chiefs and Eagles. Their only two likely wins are against the Browns, but if they split there and get swept by the Bengals to finish 9-8, the Bengals would have the tiebreaker and could afford another loss elsewhere on their schedule. In that case, the Bengals could get in along with the Colts or Broncos (just not both).

I wouldn't overthink this one. PIT is making the playoffs and CIN is not. Even if the Bengals split with the Steelers (which I think is most likely, but if I had to bet on a team to sweep the series it would be PIT), they'd still need to win all of their other games just to get to 9-8, which has about a 50/50 shot of being good enough. Maybe a little better than 50/50 considering that in this scenario they beat the Broncos.

With the [lack of] defense the Bengals have, stacking five wins in six games against anyone is a very tall task. They have the type of defense that will allow teams like the Browns and Titans to hang around even when Burrow and Chase are moving the ball per usual. So what happens against the Steelers and Broncos, teams who have defenses good enough to slow down CIN's offense?

Steelers might/will probably have a losing record over their last seven games, but even if they go 2-5 they're still in. If they go 3-4 they might win the division.

December and January are always good for a couple twists and turns, but as of now the 7 AFC playoff teams are very obvious to me. It's just the 7 that are in there right now. I don't have a shred of belief in anyone else.

The NFC on the other hand gets weirder by the week. Is the west a four horse race? Are the Falcons gonna blunder the south? How vulnerable are the current wild cards?

AT&T Stadium...oof.

So, so lucky that the metal didn't hit anyone.

[epzik8]

Never been a big Jim Harbuagh guy, but his impact is undeniable.

Both Harbaugh brothers have left a lasting mark on the NFL.