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Time for “K12 in one thread?”

Started by Max Rockatansky, November 30, 2024, 12:04:20 PM

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Rothman

Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?

Nah.  Just the never-ending dumpster fire getting a stoke here and there.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.


LilianaUwU

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 04, 2024, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: hotdogPi on December 04, 2024, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?

I feel like there should be a global 1-hour cooldown.

Nonsense all increases in temperature even of the figurative variety are optimal.  Haven't we been attention to these K12 threads?
We should pay attention to all those threads about Québécoise trans women making Minecraft worlds with a bunch of highways.
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PNWRoadgeek

Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?
With all these K12 threads it's more than overheating at this point.
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Roadgeekteen

Eventually K12 is gonna do something stupid and get banned. He hasn't done anything ban worthy yet but I just feel it.
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Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 10:23:54 PMEventually K12 is gonna do something stupid and get banned. He hasn't done anything ban worthy yet but I just feel it.

I don't think so.  He's been too careful in obfuscating his truly controversial views.  With forum moderation the way it is now, I don't see a ban in the near future.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Max Rockatansky

#130
Quote from: Rothman on December 04, 2024, 10:34:19 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 10:23:54 PMEventually K12 is gonna do something stupid and get banned. He hasn't done anything ban worthy yet but I just feel it.

I don't think so.  He's been too careful in obfuscating his truly controversial views.  With forum moderation the way it is now, I don't see a ban in the near future.

Hence part of the original post here.  He doesn't think some of us can see through his BS or thinks he is being subtle.  Problem is that it isn't overtly trollish enough likely for a ban from mod staff.  He backed way down when I called out logic behind a political rant today which clearly against a certain political party. 

I am amused though at this bizarre mindset he has about fanfic future tech.  He seems to think it will better his life but didn't have much to say when I ask what he was actually inventing.

And yes, I fully expect him to say I'm "mocking him" at some point tomorrow.  Dude just does this to himself and seems to have run out of good will on the forum.  If he just stuck to roads everyone would leave him alone.

webny99

Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?

I think "flooding" may be more apropos, given what's going on in the travel board :)

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: webny99 on December 04, 2024, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?

I think "flooding" may be more apropos, given what's going on in the travel board :)

I won't blame people, it's a very interesting topic to see where people have been. But we are going a bit too fast.
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Rothman

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 11:13:43 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 04, 2024, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?

I think "flooding" may be more apropos, given what's going on in the travel board :)

I won't blame people, it's a very interesting topic to see where people have been. But we are going a bit too fast.

One of the stokers of the fire is now saying the fire is too hot...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Max Rockatansky

I'm not going to complain about people talking about an actual road topic for a change. 

PNWRoadgeek

Ok but real talk, why are all of these How many *insert name here* crossings have you crossed thread? And where does it come from?
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webny99

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Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on December 04, 2024, 11:27:04 PMOk but real talk, why are all of these How many *insert name here* crossings have you crossed thread? And where does it come from?

It's our form of bandwagoning. Someone starts a thread that has unlimited potential for variants, and everyone wants in on the fun.

See also: Guess the [insert jurisdiction of choice] challenge threads, which were all the rage for a while and eventually fizzled out.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: webny99 on December 04, 2024, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on December 04, 2024, 11:27:04 PMOk but real talk, why are all of these How many *insert name here* crossings have you crossed thread? And where does it come from?

It's our form of bandwagoning. Someone starts a thread that has unlimited potential for variants, and everyone wants in on the fun.
It's a legitimately interesting topic and I'm interested in reading responses. Besides, if not for that thread it would just be K12's stuff.
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webny99

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 11:52:03 PMBesides, if not for that thread it would just be K12's stuff.

It's only "K12's stuff", whatever that even means at this point, because everyone is actively choosing it to be so.

I honestly find it hilarious how this forum is so calm and laid back most of the time until someone gives off mildly trollish vibes and then everyone explodes all at once. It's either the most chill forum on the planet or more squabbly than city-data... with seemingly no in between.  :meh:

Max Rockatansky

I don't mind reading those river threads since they have some off brand bridges that might be worth seeing. 

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: webny99 on December 05, 2024, 12:02:24 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 11:52:03 PMBesides, if not for that thread it would just be K12's stuff.

It's only "K12's stuff", whatever that even means at this point, because everyone is actively choosing it to be so.

I honestly find it hilarious how this forum is so calm and laid back most of the time until someone gives off mildly trollish vibes and then everyone explodes all at once. It's either the most chill forum on the planet or more squabbly than city-data... with seemingly no in between.  :meh:

Honestly I don't care all that much about the K12 spam as if someone wants to post something interesting I will see it. But I know some other users are very bothered by it so I want that thread locked, it's a waste of server space anyway.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: webny99 on December 05, 2024, 12:02:24 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 11:52:03 PMBesides, if not for that thread it would just be K12's stuff.

It's only "K12's stuff", whatever that even means at this point, because everyone is actively choosing it to be so.

I honestly find it hilarious how this forum is so calm and laid back most of the time until someone gives off mildly trollish vibes and then everyone explodes all at once. It's either the most chill forum on the planet or more squabbly than city-data... with seemingly no in between.  :meh:


Thing is that the forum as a whole is pretty set against heavy handed moderation.  Generally that is fine, at least until someone goes off the deep end.  Usually the way it goes is a tidal wave of member resistance to problem posters.  Even then, it tends to drag out for a while and gets increasingly worse.  MMM, P13 and Crash_It all went down in a slow crash rather than an outright flame out.

K12 type trolling is way easier to deal with off forum with a couple clicks.  In groups I managed it is east to just ban/block people the minute they give a clear indication they are being intentionally trollish.  Then again the trolling you see here doesn't happen much on other platforms.  Putting your face and name behind outlandish statements tends to be deterrent unto itself.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2024, 12:12:45 AM
Quote from: webny99 on December 05, 2024, 12:02:24 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 04, 2024, 11:52:03 PMBesides, if not for that thread it would just be K12's stuff.

It's only "K12's stuff", whatever that even means at this point, because everyone is actively choosing it to be so.

I honestly find it hilarious how this forum is so calm and laid back most of the time until someone gives off mildly trollish vibes and then everyone explodes all at once. It's either the most chill forum on the planet or more squabbly than city-data... with seemingly no in between.  :meh:


Thing is that the forum as a whole is pretty set against heavy handed moderation.  Generally that is fine, at least until someone goes off the deep end.  Usually the way it goes is a tidal wave of member resistance to problem posters.  Even then, it tends to drag out for a while and gets increasingly worse.  MMM, P13 and Crash_It all went down in a slow crab than an outright flame out.

K12 type trolling is way easier to deal with off forum with a couple clicks.  In groups I managed it is east to just ban/block people the minute they give a clear indication they are being intentionally trollish.  Then again the trolling you see here doesn't happen much on other platforms.  Putting your face and name behind outlandish statements tends to be deterrent unto itself.
Look, the P13 thread gave me a ton of laughs as I read through the last 50 pages or so (I was inactive when it was happening real time). So at least it had some value. Though it probably should have been stopped a lot earlier, I feel like RGT's interstate highway system (og thread) got locked for less.
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Max Rockatansky

I've said plenty about the merits of the Fictional board.  We are at rare point in time where there is an actual new viable non-shit post style fictional thread.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=35456.0

That said, do you see K12 in fiction unless he is put there?  His "ideas" belong on the fictional board.  His fanfic futurism makes it into way too many serious threads and begins to derail them.  His political ranting is just as bad but doesn't exactly have a viable category.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2024, 12:20:52 AMI've said plenty about the merits of the Fictional board.  We are at rare point in time where there is an actual new viable non-shit post style fictional thread.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=35456.0

That said, do you see K12 in fiction unless he is put there?  His "ideas" belong on the fictional board.  His fanfic futurism makes it into way too many serious threads and begins to derail them.  His political ranting is just as bad but doesn't exactly have a viable category.
His stuff isn't even fictional highways. It's just stuff that makes Elon Msuk's hyperloop look like the world's greatest inventions. I don't even know where to put it.
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GaryV

Quote from: hotdogPi on December 04, 2024, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 04, 2024, 09:37:29 PMAnyone else feel like the forum is overheating right now?

I feel like there should be a global 1-hour cooldown.

Is that something like DST? (runs and hides)

LilianaUwU

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Molandfreak

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PMAASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

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webny99

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Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 05, 2024, 04:37:07 PM
Quoteor more squabbly than city-data...
Is city-data that bad?

Relative to this forum on a good day, yes. There's a lot more inflammatory rhetoric and disagreements between users, and the average post is of considerably lower quality... in part because it covers a much broader range of subjects and appeals to a much broader user base, so there's less sense of community.



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