I Thought No Politics

[roadman65]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

I thought it's forbidden to post anything anti whomever in politics?

[JayhawkCO]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

I thought it's forbidden to post anything anti whomever in politics?

Hence the thread(s) were locked.

[webny99]

For the record, I have long believed that posts should be left public as much as possible and therefore really appreciated the post being left public and the thorough explanation/justification for doing so.

However, I did also express to the moderation team that the problematic part of the post (should be obvious which part) should be addressed/removed exactly as if it were a standalone post.

[PNWRoadgeek]

For the record, I have long believed that posts should be left public as much as possible and therefore really appreciated the post being left public and the thorough explanation/justification for doing so.

However, I did also express to the moderation team that the problematic part of the post (should be obvious which part) should be addressed/removed exactly as if it were a standalone post.

Agree with everything here.

[Molandfreak]

I suppose I just don't get it. The mods constantly crack down hard on SPUI for political posting, but have never meaningfully reprimanded Terry Shea or SP Cook for similar behavior. I mean yes, you can delete posts all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that neither of them have taken accountability for breaking forum rules or implemented a plan to improve their behavior.

And before you ask, no, I am not against conservative voices on the forum. Kphoger has said that he has conservative leanings, and I have absolutely no problem with him on the forum, because he never demeans anyone in the rare occasion that politics do come up. Terry Shea and SP Cook both do it constantly.

[thspfc]

In a vacuum I don't care about whether the post was locked, deleted, or left alone to descend into chaos. But it's really hard not to point out that a post of similar intent criticizing democratic voters / a democratic administration would have been deleted and the user would have been banned.

To preempt the obvious response: I understand that the current situation is far worse for many than what, for example, the Biden or Obama administrations brought about in their early days. That doesn't contradict my point. My point is not at all political in nature; any response suggesting that it is would be a waste of time.

[roadman65]

Well the post wasn't removed. I'm guessing Alex didn't see it either as his rule is to prevent flame wars as with politics we are all too stubborn in that area.  However it was locked instead still letting us see the rant.

Plus with social media now out there is causes lash outs where people think that the opposing candidates are going to start the doomsday clock any second, so people get scared and hope that either Trump or Biden ( when he was a president) would have an immediate ill fate and suggest to the opposite party how evil they were the place that president in power.

This isn't the first time this happened here.

[Molandfreak]

In a vacuum I don't care about whether the post was locked, deleted, or left alone to descend into chaos. But it's really hard not to point out that a post of similar intent criticizing democratic voters / a democratic administration would have been deleted and the user would have been banned.

Terry Shea literally told Rothman to get a lobotomy over a political disagreement and wasn't banned.

[thspfc]

In a vacuum I don't care about whether the post was locked, deleted, or left alone to descend into chaos. But it's really hard not to point out that a post of similar intent criticizing democratic voters / a democratic administration would have been deleted and the user would have been banned.

Terry Shea literally told Rothman to get a lobotomy over a political disagreement and wasn't banned.

Who/what/when/where/why? Need more context

[Molandfreak]

In a vacuum I don't care about whether the post was locked, deleted, or left alone to descend into chaos. But it's really hard not to point out that a post of similar intent criticizing democratic voters / a democratic administration would have been deleted and the user would have been banned.

Terry Shea literally told Rothman to get a lobotomy over a political disagreement and wasn't banned.

Who/what/when/where/why? Need more context

This post originally read "so are lobotomies" in response to Rothman. I do also have a problem with it as it is currently written, but that is not the point.

[hotdogPi]

That post doesn't have an edit timestamp, which means it was changed within the first three minutes, most likely because he realized how bad it was.

[Molandfreak]

That post doesn't have an edit timestamp, which means it was changed within the first three minutes, most likely because he realized how bad it was.

Posting harassing or insulting remarks towards another member. Later editing or deleting your post does not absolve you from punishment. Learn respect.

[roadman65]

Question answered.

[thspfc]

In a vacuum I don't care about whether the post was locked, deleted, or left alone to descend into chaos. But it's really hard not to point out that a post of similar intent criticizing democratic voters / a democratic administration would have been deleted and the user would have been banned.

Terry Shea literally told Rothman to get a lobotomy over a political disagreement and wasn't banned.

Who/what/when/where/why? Need more context

This post originally read "so are lobotomies" in response to Rothman. I do also have a problem with it as it is currently written, but that is not the point.

Certianly an inflammatory post that should have warranted mod action, however there are 3 key differences. I don't think this instance contradicts my point.

1) I can't conclude from this exchange who is on what side of the political spectrum. Obviously being generally anti-tax is a republican position, but disapproving of specific methods of taxation is a more of a grey area. Florida, Oklahoma, and Texas collect more tolls than almost every other state. Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio have significant tollways. Gas tax rates are slightly more reflective of red/blue states but still not perfectly correlated. It's not a situation like income tax where you can infer with near-perfect accuracy what side of the aisle someone is on based on their answer to a question.

2) aggressively disagreeing with something said in a road related discussion is not the same as starting an aggressive thread about something not road related (or only road related in small part, since infastructure is involved in politics).

3) the user in question from yesterday could have edited his post, and didn't.

[Max Rockatansky]

Political talk in general is pretty lame and uninteresting.  I try to avoid unless it is somehow intrinsically tied to a road topic.

[Scott5114]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

If SPUI ever becomes a political figure head, then that will really say something about our country. What, I don't know.

[roadman65]

Political talk in general is pretty lame and uninteresting.  I try to avoid unless it is somehow intrinsically tied to a road topic.

What's funny is I stay away from politics but because I do I'm accused of being a Left supporter by the Right and a Right Supporter by the Left.

One college student interning for Mitt Romney for President in 2012, said because I chose not to vote for either Obama nor Romney then,  this girl intern said I was indirectly casting a vote for Barack as my one vote could help put Mitt one vote closer to a win.

Two months ago I got accused of voting for Trump because I made a statement on FB that both Trump and Harris were not qualified to run a simple business let alone a nation.

Politics will always find me.

[LilianaUwU]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

If SPUI ever becomes a political figure head, then that will really say something about our country. What, I don't know.

Let's be fair, the US would probably be on the right track if this happened.

[roadman65]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

If SPUI ever becomes a political figure head, then that will really say something about our country. What, I don't know.

Let's be fair, the US would probably be on the right track if this happened.

I never said SPUI should run this nation, but that he was not the one making the post in question.

[Max Rockatansky]

Political talk in general is pretty lame and uninteresting.  I try to avoid unless it is somehow intrinsically tied to a road topic.

What's funny is I stay away from politics but because I do I'm accused of being a Left supporter by the Right and a Right Supporter by the Left.

One college student interning for Mitt Romney for President in 2012, said because I chose not to vote for either Obama nor Romney then,  this girl intern said I was indirectly casting a vote for Barack as my one vote could help put Mitt one vote closer to a win.

Two months ago I got accused of voting for Trump because I made a statement on FB that both Trump and Harris were not qualified to run a simple business let alone a nation.

Politics will always find me.

The overwhelming majority of political news I get is from road people off forum.  Most family and regular folks I know simply don't really care much about politics.  Politics isn't a facet of my day to day life either, nor do I want it to be.

[roadman65]

Political talk in general is pretty lame and uninteresting.  I try to avoid unless it is somehow intrinsically tied to a road topic.

What's funny is I stay away from politics but because I do I'm accused of being a Left supporter by the Right and a Right Supporter by the Left.

One college student interning for Mitt Romney for President in 2012, said because I chose not to vote for either Obama nor Romney then,  this girl intern said I was indirectly casting a vote for Barack as my one vote could help put Mitt one vote closer to a win.

Two months ago I got accused of voting for Trump because I made a statement on FB that both Trump and Harris were not qualified to run a simple business let alone a nation.

Politics will always find me.

The overwhelming majority of political news I get is from road people off forum.  Most family and regular folks I know simply don't really care much about politics.  Politics isn't a facet of my day to day life either, nor do I want it to be.

Sad, but true. If you look at instagram many have their conclusions about who is at fault for the DC air disaster already even though the NTSB hasn't concluded their investigations.   

The evidence: the way the helicopter slammed into the jet from broadside.  And in reality that's from one perspective as there was no other cameral angles to see from as this one was facing the passenger plane coming in.  If the camera was looking north it would have appeared that the PSA flight rammed the chopper.

[LilianaUwU]

The other day someone posted a harsh rant about a political figure head and it wasn't SPUI.

If SPUI ever becomes a political figure head, then that will really say something about our country. What, I don't know.

Let's be fair, the US would probably be on the right track if this happened.

I never said SPUI should run this nation

But I will. SPUI 2028!

[Road Hog]

SPUI - Hawk Tuah '28!

Double Dribble for the Gribble!

[kalvado]

Political talk in general is pretty lame and uninteresting.  I try to avoid unless it is somehow intrinsically tied to a road topic.

What's funny is I stay away from politics but because I do I'm accused of being a Left supporter by the Right and a Right Supporter by the Left.

One college student interning for Mitt Romney for President in 2012, said because I chose not to vote for either Obama nor Romney then,  this girl intern said I was indirectly casting a vote for Barack as my one vote could help put Mitt one vote closer to a win.

Two months ago I got accused of voting for Trump because I made a statement on FB that both Trump and Harris were not qualified to run a simple business let alone a nation.

Politics will always find me.

The overwhelming majority of political news I get is from road people off forum.  Most family and regular folks I know simply don't really care much about politics.  Politics isn't a facet of my day to day life either, nor do I want it to be.

Sad, but true. If you look at instagram many have their conclusions about who is at fault for the DC air disaster already even though the NTSB hasn't concluded their investigations.   

The evidence: the way the helicopter slammed into the jet from broadside.  And in reality that's from one perspective as there was no other cameral angles to see from as this one was facing the passenger plane coming in.  If the camera was looking north it would have appeared that the PSA flight rammed the chopper.

That's frankly speaking is pretty obvious, and the way helicopter slammed has very little to do with it. While there is still to be learnt what happened with copter crew and how they ended up messing that bad, they are squarely bearing the responsibility.

[Max Rockatansky]

SPUI - Hawk Tuah '28!

Double Dribble for the Gribble!

Irony is that I ran a mock presidential campaign on social media for my dog in 2020.  He is nothing but empty promises but he would get my vote.