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Started by mgk920, May 30, 2012, 02:33:31 AM

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The Ghostbuster

I've noticed Google Maps no longer shows Main St. in Onalaska as STH 157, even though it is still signposted along the route: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8831902,-91.2248175,1641m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D. It is still marked both along and south of US 53.


Big John

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 09, 2025, 11:33:42 AMI've noticed Google Maps no longer shows Main St. in Onalaska as STH 157, even though it is still signposted along the route: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8831902,-91.2248175,1641m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDQwNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D. It is still marked both along and south of US 53.
Some panning shows WI 157 being on US 53 north of the gore point to the NB Main St off ramp up to the NB on-ramp gore point.

TheCatalyst31

Quote from: Revive 755 on April 08, 2025, 09:20:46 PM^ And Wisconsin using "IH" for an interstate again.
Buc-ee's announces that they're opening here, and the state immediately starts talking like Texans. For shame.

Molandfreak

Not to mention the inconsistent use of "WIS" vs. "STH."
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PMAASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

The Ghostbuster

I use STH (State Trunk Highway) since that is their official name (also, it is what Chris Bessert uses on his Wisconsin Highways website).

GeekJedi

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 10, 2025, 11:16:38 AMI use STH (State Trunk Highway) since that is their official name (also, it is what Chris Bessert uses on his Wisconsin Highways website).

It's Wisconsin. Every County, State, US, and Interstate route is called "Highway". "Take Highway 45 to Highway 10, past Highway II to Highway 41". :-D
"Wisconsin - The Concurrency State!"

mgk920

It is 'Highway' (ie, WI * [State Trunk] HIGHWAY* 50) in Wisconsin and 'route' (ie, IL *ROUTE* 173') in Illinois. That demarcation is right hard at the state line.

Mike

Molandfreak

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 10, 2025, 11:16:38 AMI use STH (State Trunk Highway) since that is their official name (also, it is what Chris Bessert uses on his Wisconsin Highways website).
This is about the document linked on the previous page.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PMAASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

midwesternroadguy

Quote from: GeekJedi on April 10, 2025, 11:33:44 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 10, 2025, 11:16:38 AMI use STH (State Trunk Highway) since that is their official name (also, it is what Chris Bessert uses on his Wisconsin Highways website).

It's Wisconsin. Every County, State, US, and Interstate route is called "Highway". "Take Highway 45 to Highway 10, past Highway II to Highway 41". :-D

Using "County Road" in Wisconsin is like nails on a chalkboard.  When I was younger everyone called them "country trunks."

mgk920

Quote from: midwesternroadguy on April 11, 2025, 11:27:15 PM
Quote from: GeekJedi on April 10, 2025, 11:33:44 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 10, 2025, 11:16:38 AMI use STH (State Trunk Highway) since that is their official name (also, it is what Chris Bessert uses on his Wisconsin Highways website).

It's Wisconsin. Every County, State, US, and Interstate route is called "Highway". "Take Highway 45 to Highway 10, past Highway II to Highway 41". :-D

Using "County Road" in Wisconsin is like nails on a chalkboard.  When I was younger everyone called them "country trunks."

My sense is that the biggest proponent of calling them 'state road', county road', etc is the USPS.

Mike

JREwing78

Local TV media interviewed residents who are calling for changes to the intersection of US-18 and County A outside Cambridge (between Madison and Jefferson). After a recent accident where a SUV on County A pulled in front of a loaded semi, they are calling for changes to the intersection. West of Cambridge, US-12/18 is slated for two roundabouts, so another roundabout here would not be unexpected.

hobsini2

Quote from: mgk920 on April 12, 2025, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: midwesternroadguy on April 11, 2025, 11:27:15 PM
Quote from: GeekJedi on April 10, 2025, 11:33:44 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 10, 2025, 11:16:38 AMI use STH (State Trunk Highway) since that is their official name (also, it is what Chris Bessert uses on his Wisconsin Highways website).

It's Wisconsin. Every County, State, US, and Interstate route is called "Highway". "Take Highway 45 to Highway 10, past Highway II to Highway 41". :-D

Using "County Road" in Wisconsin is like nails on a chalkboard.  When I was younger everyone called them "country trunks."

My sense is that the biggest proponent of calling them 'state road', county road', etc is the USPS.

Mike
I have always referrer to the state highways as Wis and the county highways as Hwy. I never called them County or County Trunk although when I was a child, I thought those were called Truck Highways.
I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes. Keep firing, assholes! - Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)

SEWIGuy

Quote from: JREwing78 on April 12, 2025, 11:53:34 AMLocal TV media interviewed residents who are calling for changes to the intersection of US-18 and County A outside Cambridge (between Madison and Jefferson). After a recent accident where a SUV on County A pulled in front of a loaded semi, they are calling for changes to the intersection. West of Cambridge, US-12/18 is slated for two roundabouts, so another roundabout here would not be unexpected.

That's not a bad intersection by any means.

The Ghostbuster

There was a study done on US 12 (and partially US 18) from County N to Fort Atkinson that was completed in 2014: https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/12nto26/default.aspx. Outside of this project (https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/projects/by-region/sw/us1218-intersection/default.aspx), there aren't any plans to add any additional roundabouts on US 12 or US 18.

JREwing78

Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 12, 2025, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on April 12, 2025, 11:53:34 AMLocal TV media interviewed residents who are calling for changes to the intersection of US-18 and County A outside Cambridge (between Madison and Jefferson). After a recent accident where a SUV on County A pulled in front of a loaded semi, they are calling for changes to the intersection. West of Cambridge, US-12/18 is slated for two roundabouts, so another roundabout here would not be unexpected.

That's not a bad intersection by any means.
I agree. Great sightlines all around. OK, you might have to crane your neck past 90 degrees to see traffic from the left, but seeing it shouldn't be a problem at all.

US-14 at County H west of Janesville has much higher traffic on all 4 legs with arguably worse sightlines. All WisDOT did was set up turn lanes on US-14 for both left and right-turning traffic onto County H.

The proposed roundabouts on US-12/18 involve at least double the traffic counts. Those honestly should've been converted to interchanges, given the precedent set by the Hwy 73 interchange and the interchanges closer to Madison. But, you know, we just can't afford another 10 cents a gallon to have *good* roads in this state.



The Ghostbuster

I just remembered something. CTH A and Perry Rd. between US 12 and US 18 was once part of US 18 (and STH 41 before that): https://www.wisconsinhighways.org/listings/WiscHwys10-19.html#US-018.

dvferyance

Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 12, 2025, 02:56:39 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on April 12, 2025, 11:53:34 AMLocal TV media interviewed residents who are calling for changes to the intersection of US-18 and County A outside Cambridge (between Madison and Jefferson). After a recent accident where a SUV on County A pulled in front of a loaded semi, they are calling for changes to the intersection. West of Cambridge, US-12/18 is slated for two roundabouts, so another roundabout here would not be unexpected.

That's not a bad intersection by any means.
I agree one accident doesn't mean all of a sudden it is a dangerous intersection.

JREwing78

Rock County has a bridge to sell ya. Hell, they'll even give you up to $175,000 to cover your expenses in moving it! But you've got to agree to park it somewhere for people to gawk at for at least 10 years. Oh, and you have to figure out how to move it.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/doing-bus/eng-consultants/cnslt-rsrces/environment/historic-bridges/lathers-road.aspx

peterj920

Drove US 51 through McFarland and the 4 lane stretch that isn't in that bad of shape is being rebuilt. When there's so many other roads that are in much worse shape how did rebuilding a road that's mostly 2 lanes without significant expansion become a major project? Most of the road isn't in that bad of shape.

This is the worst major project WISDOT has ever done. How about taking that money and putting it toward expanding I-90/94 or rebuilding I-94 between Madison and Waukesha?

The Ghostbuster

My only request for the McFarland segment is that they number the exit at Sigglekow Rd. It would be numbered Exit 49.

dvferyance

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 18, 2025, 08:13:48 PMMy only request for the McFarland segment is that they number the exit at Sigglekow Rd. It would be numbered Exit 49.
I wish they would number the exits on Hwy 23 between Fond Du Lac and Sheboygan.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: peterj920 on April 18, 2025, 04:05:54 PMDrove US 51 through McFarland and the 4 lane stretch that isn't in that bad of shape is being rebuilt. When there's so many other roads that are in much worse shape how did rebuilding a road that's mostly 2 lanes without significant expansion become a major project? Most of the road isn't in that bad of shape.

This is the worst major project WISDOT has ever done. How about taking that money and putting it toward expanding I-90/94 or rebuilding I-94 between Madison and Waukesha?


"The worse major project WISDOT has ever done" seems like an overstatement.

Anyway, wasn't the bridge over the Yahara River substandard and in need of replacement anyway?

The Ghostbuster


gbgoose

Quote from: dvferyance on April 18, 2025, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 18, 2025, 08:13:48 PMMy only request for the McFarland segment is that they number the exit at Sigglekow Rd. It would be numbered Exit 49.
I wish they would number the exits on Hwy 23 between Fond Du Lac and Sheboygan.

I also wish they'd number the exits on Hwy 172 around the Green Bay area.

dvferyance

Quote from: gbgoose on April 23, 2025, 07:03:17 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on April 18, 2025, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 18, 2025, 08:13:48 PMMy only request for the McFarland segment is that they number the exit at Sigglekow Rd. It would be numbered Exit 49.
I wish they would number the exits on Hwy 23 between Fond Du Lac and Sheboygan.

I also wish they'd number the exits on Hwy 172 around the Green Bay area.
I forgot about that one but I agree they should number those too.



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