This is true? - Geographic oddities that defy conventional wisdom

[I-55]

Also while every state has its share of cities that aren't located in counties with very similar names, Iowa seems to have a plethora of them. Itstarts with Des Moines not being in Des Moines County.

Oh yeah, there are a ton of these. Colorado, for instance, has:

• Dolores (in Montezuma County, not neighboring Dolores County)
• Jefferson (in Park County, not neighboring Jefferson County)
• Kiowa (in Elbert County, not the faraway land of Kiowa County)
• Kit Carson (in Cheyenne County, not neighboring Kit Carson County)
• Las Animas (in Bent County, not neighboring Las Animas County)
• Moffat (in Saguache County, not the distant Moffat County)
• Montezuma (in Summit County, not over yonder in Montezuma County)
• Pitkin (in Gunnison County, not neighboring Pitkin County)

And likely more.

Ohio has Sandusky, Upper Sandusky, and Sandusky County. Sandusky is in Erie Co, Upper Sandusky is in Wyandot Co.

[thenetwork]

Also while every state has its share of cities that aren't located in counties with very similar names, Iowa seems to have a plethora of them. Itstarts with Des Moines not being in Des Moines County.

Oh yeah, there are a ton of these. Colorado, for instance, has:

• Dolores (in Montezuma County, not neighboring Dolores County)
• Jefferson (in Park County, not neighboring Jefferson County)
• Kiowa (in Elbert County, not the faraway land of Kiowa County)
• Kit Carson (in Cheyenne County, not neighboring Kit Carson County)
• Las Animas (in Bent County, not neighboring Las Animas County)
• Moffat (in Saguache County, not the distant Moffat County)
• Montezuma (in Summit County, not over yonder in Montezuma County)
• Pitkin (in Gunnison County, not neighboring Pitkin County)

And likely more.

Ohio has Sandusky, Upper Sandusky, and Sandusky County. Sandusky is in Erie Co, Upper Sandusky is in Wyandot Co.

Huron is in Erie County, which is one county north of Huron County.

[SEWIGuy]

Wisconsin:

Juneau isn't in Juneau County
Portage isn't in Portage County
Port Washington isn't in Washington County
Monroe isn't in Monroe County
Jackson isn't in Jackson County
Marquette isn't in Marquette County.

[flan]

Minnesota:

Blue Earth is in Faribault County
Faribault is in Rice County
Rice is in Benton County
Lake Benton is in Lincoln County
Lincoln Township is in Blue Earth County

[JayhawkCO]

I'm not normally this guy, but we've covered the topic of cities that aren't in their eponymous county before - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26314, just in case it saves anyone time.

[CoreySamson]

We should start a thread about the pros and cons of Daylight Saving Time.

Pros of daylight savings time: news anchors, doctors, politicians, etc that get paid to talk about daylight savings time

Cons of daylight savings time: anyone who is trying to produce a rational reason to justify the way they feel about it is probably conning you

Do you think the pros are conning us?

In Soviet Russia (or is it Alanland?), the con pros you.

[kphoger]

I'm not normally this guy, but we've covered the topic of cities that aren't in their eponymous county before - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26314, just in case it saves anyone time.

We've probably already covered it in this very thread already too, but I don't want to go searching through all two bazillion posts to confirm that.

[Mav94]

I'm not normally this guy, but we've covered the topic of cities that aren't in their eponymous county before - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26314, just in case it saves anyone time.

We've probably already covered it in this very thread already too, but I don't want to go searching through all two bazillion posts to confirm that.

I can conclusively say it wasn't in the first 62 pages 

[DTComposer]

Tangentially related, maybe not defying conventional wisdom, but it piqued my interest:

30% of California counties have an eponymous city in them, but that city is not the county seat:

Alameda County: Oakland, not Alameda
Amador County: Jackson, not Amador City
Imperial County: El Centro, not Imperial
Kern County: Bakersfield, not Kernville
Mendocino County: Ukiah, not Mendocino
Monterey County: Salinas, not Monterey
Orange County: Santa Ana, not Orange
San Benito County: Hollister, not San Benito
San Mateo County: Redwood City, not San Mateo
Santa Clara County: San Jose, not Santa Clara
Sierra County: Downieville, not Sierra City
Sonoma County: Santa Rosa, not Sonoma
Sutter County: Yuba City, not Sutter
Tehama County: Red Bluff, not Tehama
Tulare County: Visalia, not Tulare
Tuolumne: Sonora, not Tuolumne
Yolo County: Woodland, not Yolo

A couple of these have always been very small communities relative to their county seats, and I didn't list some where the eponymous city is a more recent creation (either new development, and/or named by the Census Bureau), such as Marin City, El Dorado Hills, etc.

[bing101]

Tangentially related, maybe not defying conventional wisdom, but it piqued my interest:

30% of California counties have an eponymous city in them, but that city is not the county seat:

Alameda County: Oakland, not Alameda
Amador County: Jackson, not Amador City
Imperial County: El Centro, not Imperial
Kern County: Bakersfield, not Kernville
Mendocino County: Ukiah, not Mendocino
Monterey County: Salinas, not Monterey
Orange County: Santa Ana, not Orange
San Benito County: Hollister, not San Benito
San Mateo County: Redwood City, not San Mateo
Santa Clara County: San Jose, not Santa Clara
Sierra County: Downieville, not Sierra City
Sonoma County: Santa Rosa, not Sonoma
Sutter County: Yuba City, not Sutter
Tehama County: Red Bluff, not Tehama
Tulare County: Visalia, not Tulare
Tuolumne: Sonora, not Tuolumne
Yolo County: Woodland, not Yolo

A couple of these have always been very small communities relative to their county seats, and I didn't list some where the eponymous city is a more recent creation (either new development, and/or named by the Census Bureau), such as Marin City, El Dorado Hills, etc.

and related to this one Yuba County does not contain Yuba City. It's county seat is Marysville, California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marysville,_California

[JayhawkCO]

I just found this interesting.

[Rothman]

I just found this interesting.

Wonder how they defined city.  Anchorage isn't that small.

[JayhawkCO]

I just found this interesting.

Wonder how they defined city.  Anchorage isn't that small.

Probably metro greater than a million?

[SectorZ]

I just found this interesting.

Wonder how they defined city.  Anchorage isn't that small.

That was being debated in the Facebook post with no clear consensus.

[english si]

Wonder how they defined city.  Anchorage isn't that small.

'Major', not 'city' is the word in question surely?

Anchorage metropolitan area is 400k - certainly not small. Portland-South Portland MSA is 550k (which still doesn't put it in the top 100), though, and closer than Boston to the Boston area. It seems that they aren't major enough.

Honolulu MSA was just over 1M (2024 estimates now have it slightly under). That makes it very likely that 'major' adjective to 'city' meant limiting it to the 56 million plus MSAs according to the 2020 census.

[bing101]

[webny99]

I just found this interesting.

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India is the most fascinating part of this map. It's so weird to think that depending on where you are in India, your closest US city could be Boston, Seattle, or Honolulu. And weirder yet, Miami looks like it should be closest to India on a map, but in actuality, it doesn't even come close: isn't it bizarre to think that almost the entirety of Africa is closer to Boston than Miami? Never underestimate the Mercator projection effect.

[LilianaUwU]

I just found this interesting.

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Explaining geography to Americans: OK, so imagine an American city...

[Rothman]

I just found this interesting.

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India is the most fascinating part of this map. It's so weird to think that depending on where you are in India, your closest US city could be Boston, Seattle, or Honolulu. And weirder yet, Miami looks like it should be closest to India on a map, but in actuality, it doesn't even come close: isn't it bizarre to think that almost the entirety of Africa is closer to Boston than Miami? Never underestimate the Mercator projection effect.

I think adults who actually looked at globes as kids have an more intuitive feeling for this.

[JayhawkCO]

I just found this interesting.

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Explaining geography to Americans: OK, so imagine an American city...

Not sure where you're going with this...

[kphoger]

Not sure where you're going with this...

Indeed.  The image does not appear to be 'explaining geography'.

[SEWIGuy]

I just found this interesting.

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Explaining geography to Americans: OK, so imagine an American city...

Yes, imagine putting an image together for a primarily American audience that refers to American cities. How strange.     

[kphoger]

Explaining geography to Germans: OK, so imagine a European city...

[JayhawkCO]

Not sure where you're going with this...

Indeed.  The image does not appear to be 'explaining geography'.

I think it was maaaaybe a general insult that Americans don't understand geography? But with this specific audience, I don't think that's an accurate call.

[kphoger]

Taking this post seriously, though...

It caught be by surprise that Milwaukee is a tiny bit farther south than the French Riviera.

43.04°N = Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
43.71°N = Nice, Alpes-Maritimes, France

Explaining geography to Germans: OK, so imagine a European city...

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