Fire Destroys an Antibellum House

[roadman65]

https://www.newsweek.com/largest-antebellum-plantation-house-america-destroyed-fire-2073215

[LilianaUwU]

Rich people hangout spot burns down. Womp womp.

[Max Rockatansky]

I see this as a net positive, one less monument to slavery.

[roadman65]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

[Max Rockatansky]

I've seen it in person.  It was a pretty structure, but that's about all I can say that is positive.

[thspfc]

I see this as a net positive, one less monument to slavery.

This line of thinking gets into the weeds real quick.

[Max Rockatansky]

I see this as a net positive, one less monument to slavery.

This line of thinking gets into the weeds real quick.

Unfortunately it is part of the history of the structure.  Kind of difficult for a lot of people not to associate it with slave labor. 

To be clear, I'm not calling for the demolition structures associated with era of slavery.  I just don't feel all that bad when things like this happen.

[SectorZ]

I see this as a net positive, one less monument to slavery.

This line of thinking gets into the weeds real quick.

Unfortunately it is part of the history of the structure.  Kind of difficult for a lot of people not to associate it with slave labor. 

To be clear, I'm not calling for the demolition structures associated with era of slavery.  I just don't feel all that bad when things like this happen.

I live in an area that has thousands of old remaining homes that had slaves in them. There are tens of thousands in the northeast. Are they exempt just because they discovered slavery sucked, without force being used to enlighten them, a hundred or so years before the south did?

[thspfc]

I see this as a net positive, one less monument to slavery.

This line of thinking gets into the weeds real quick.

Unfortunately it is part of the history of the structure.  Kind of difficult for a lot of people not to associate it with slave labor. 

To be clear, I'm not calling for the demolition structures associated with era of slavery.  I just don't feel all that bad when things like this happen.

I don't feel bad. But I don't think it's a net positive.

[Road Hog]

It was built in 1859, so barely antebellum.

[Max Rockatansky]

Barely but still is.

[Rothman]

If there is antibellum, that implies a probellum.

[1995hoo]

How do you tell that a house opposes war?

[formulanone]

If there is antibellum, that implies a probellum.

Hoostown, we half a probellum.

[kphoger]

I don't feel bad. But I don't think it's a net positive.

Maybe it can become a Buc-ee's instead.  Then everyone will be happy.

[TheCatalyst31]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

[Max Rockatansky]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

This articulates what I was trying to get at upthread more succinctly.

[SEWIGuy]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

So what exactly are we supposed to do with them? Tear them all down or turn them into museums?  Near where I used to live, there is an old stone house that used to be part of the Underground Railroad. It is now a winery. Is that a respectful purpose?

Don't get me wrong. The last place I would want to be is hanging at a wedding in an antebellum mansion that was part of a plantation. And I am certainly not going to shed a tear that it's gone. I just don't think we should get so hung up on how these facilties are used now. Better than they are useful than torn down for another generic venue IMO.

[LilianaUwU]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

So what exactly are we supposed to do with them? Tear them all down or turn them into museums?

Yeah.

[SEWIGuy]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

So what exactly are we supposed to do with them? Tear them all down or turn them into museums?

Yeah.

Nah. The former is wasteful and the latter won't draw enough interest.

[LilianaUwU]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

So what exactly are we supposed to do with them? Tear them all down or turn them into museums?

Yeah.

Nah. The former is wasteful and the latter won't draw enough interest.

Because it makes more sense for wealthy white people to continue doing wealthy white people things in there.

[kkt]

The ancient Greek gods were not my religion, but I appreciate their temples and I'm glad they weren't all destroyed.

[SEWIGuy]

At least the house redeemed itself and was put to better use later.  Like an Inn.for people to stay at.

Regardless, of who owned it originally, it was an engineering marvel. 

For me that makes it worse. I don't object to keeping plantations around, but if you do you have to talk about the atrocities that happened there. Turning a plantation into a fancy hotel or wedding venue feels disrespectful to the people who were enslaved there.

So what exactly are we supposed to do with them? Tear them all down or turn them into museums?

Yeah.

Nah. The former is wasteful and the latter won't draw enough interest.

Because it makes more sense for wealthy white people to continue doing wealthy white people things in there.

Makes way more sense than tearing them down. Wealthy white people would simply find other places to do wealthy white people things.