CA-99 Interstate corridor? (From Bakersfield to Stockton if not Sacramento)

Started by TheBox, April 11, 2025, 10:11:14 AM

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pderocco

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2025, 06:10:38 PMThe amusing thing is that 58 isn't even that bad east of Santa Margarita.  While not preferable to 166 or 46 I've seen truckers make it just fine on 58.
That pass east of California Valley has some really tight turns that are about the limit for what a semi can do.


Max Rockatansky

Quote from: pderocco on May 21, 2025, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 21, 2025, 06:10:38 PMThe amusing thing is that 58 isn't even that bad east of Santa Margarita.  While not preferable to 166 or 46 I've seen truckers make it just fine on 58.
That pass east of California Valley has some really tight turns that are about the limit for what a semi can do.

Much akin to 198 west of Coalinga.  In the case of 198 I'm genuinely surprised how many asphalt and ag trucks making the crossing.  Both 198 and 58 have the same 40 length advisory.

FredAkbar

Quote from: michravera on May 21, 2025, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 21, 2025, 03:25:50 PMYeah, as far as I-5 is all I care about personally (and all that makes any sense it seems). People talk about extending I-40 to Bakersfield (which is more akin to the CA-99 discussion since CA-58 is already a freeway the whole way now east of Bakersfield) so I mainly meant to reference the Bakersfield-to-5 corridor.

Isn't there a 100 m or so break in the freeway on CASR-58?

Yeah, I was wrong to say it's freeway the whole way. It's freeway almost the whole way and expressway (if that is the proper term) in a couple of spots to allow for intersections, notably:
- CA-223 where there is a somewhat dangerous left turn off of WB58
- California City Blvd (probably not used very much)

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: FredAkbar on May 22, 2025, 12:59:07 AM
Quote from: michravera on May 21, 2025, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 21, 2025, 03:25:50 PMYeah, as far as I-5 is all I care about personally (and all that makes any sense it seems). People talk about extending I-40 to Bakersfield (which is more akin to the CA-99 discussion since CA-58 is already a freeway the whole way now east of Bakersfield) so I mainly meant to reference the Bakersfield-to-5 corridor.

Isn't there a 100 m or so break in the freeway on CASR-58?

Yeah, I was wrong to say it's freeway the whole way. It's freeway almost the whole way and expressway (if that is the proper term) in a couple of spots to allow for intersections, notably:
- CA-223 where there is a somewhat dangerous left turn off of WB58
- California City Blvd (probably not used very much)

The Hinkley Bypass and Kramer Junction Bypass have a couple at-grade intersections with rural dirt roads.

pderocco

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 22, 2025, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 22, 2025, 12:59:07 AM
Quote from: michravera on May 21, 2025, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 21, 2025, 03:25:50 PMYeah, as far as I-5 is all I care about personally (and all that makes any sense it seems). People talk about extending I-40 to Bakersfield (which is more akin to the CA-99 discussion since CA-58 is already a freeway the whole way now east of Bakersfield) so I mainly meant to reference the Bakersfield-to-5 corridor.

Isn't there a 100 m or so break in the freeway on CASR-58?

Yeah, I was wrong to say it's freeway the whole way. It's freeway almost the whole way and expressway (if that is the proper term) in a couple of spots to allow for intersections, notably:
- CA-223 where there is a somewhat dangerous left turn off of WB58
- California City Blvd (probably not used very much)

The Hinkley Bypass and Kramer Junction Bypass have a couple at-grade intersections with rural dirt roads.
California City Blvd, and the Hyundai/Kia proving grounds have paved intersections between Mojave and North Edwards.  Further east, there's an intersection with graded Helendale Rd south and paved Harper Lake Rd north. Those two stretches add up to about 20 miles of expressway. But even Cal City Blvd has very little traffic, despite its imposing name.


Max Rockatansky

Quote from: pderocco on May 22, 2025, 02:11:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 22, 2025, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 22, 2025, 12:59:07 AM
Quote from: michravera on May 21, 2025, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: FredAkbar on May 21, 2025, 03:25:50 PMYeah, as far as I-5 is all I care about personally (and all that makes any sense it seems). People talk about extending I-40 to Bakersfield (which is more akin to the CA-99 discussion since CA-58 is already a freeway the whole way now east of Bakersfield) so I mainly meant to reference the Bakersfield-to-5 corridor.

Isn't there a 100 m or so break in the freeway on CASR-58?

Yeah, I was wrong to say it's freeway the whole way. It's freeway almost the whole way and expressway (if that is the proper term) in a couple of spots to allow for intersections, notably:
- CA-223 where there is a somewhat dangerous left turn off of WB58
- California City Blvd (probably not used very much)

The Hinkley Bypass and Kramer Junction Bypass have a couple at-grade intersections with rural dirt roads.
California City Blvd, and the Hyundai/Kia proving grounds have paved intersections between Mojave and North Edwards.  Further east, there's an intersection with graded Helendale Rd south and paved Harper Lake Rd north. Those two stretches add up to about 20 miles of expressway. But even Cal City Blvd has very little traffic, despite its imposing name.



I find some amusement in that California City and California Valley are both located on 58.  Both were supposed to be the "cities of tomorrow."  I'm not even if there is a gas station in California Valley?  I don't recall one being on Soda Lake Road south of 58.

pderocco

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 22, 2025, 02:51:39 PM
Quote from: pderocco on May 22, 2025, 02:11:59 PMCalifornia City Blvd, and the Hyundai/Kia proving grounds have paved intersections between Mojave and North Edwards.  Further east, there's an intersection with graded Helendale Rd south and paved Harper Lake Rd north. Those two stretches add up to about 20 miles of expressway. But even Cal City Blvd has very little traffic, despite its imposing name.



I find some amusement in that California City and California Valley are both located on 58.  Both were supposed to be the "cities of tomorrow."  I'm not even if there is a gas station in California Valley?  I don't recall one being on Soda Lake Road south of 58.
Nearest gas is McKittrick.

Rural and desert California has a lot of faded dreams. Lake Tamarisk in Desert Center. Diablo Grande golf resort near Patterson. Pacific Shores in Crescent City. Salton City. Ocotillo Wells. You can find lots of "streets" scratched into the dirt all over the place.



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