Closed Section of Route 39 - Update

[cahwyguy]

[I would have posted it in the appropriate thread, but the search on this forum is poor and I couldn't find it easily]

I'm working on the highway pages today, going through the June CTC minutes. I saw the following revision to the 2024 SHOPP, which should provoke some discussion. Folks: This is why, when I post my changelogs and such, you should really read what is in the CTC minutes section.

In June 2025, the CTC revised this project in the 2024 SHOPP: 07-LA-39 40.0/44.4. PPNO 07-5381; ProjID 0718000117; EA 34770. Route 39 Near Falling Springs, from 1.8 miles north of Crystal Lake Road to Route 2. Rehabilitate and reopen a 4.4 mile segment of Route 39 as an evacuation route. (Long Lead Project) (PA&ED, PS&E, R/W Sup only). FY Changes: 29-30 28-29. Allocation Changes ($ × $1000) ["⊘" indicates phase not programmed]: PS&E $7,000 $8,632; R/W Sup $100 $178; ⊘Con Sup $7,000 $13,201; ⊘R/W Cap $100 $3; ⊘Const Cap $35,000 $51,582; TOTAL $57,100 $81,496. Note: Program PS&E and R/W support phases on this long lead project because the environmental document has been completed. Advance the year of delivery to expedite the reopening of the route so that it can be used as an evacuation route in case emergencies such as wildfires. Update project description to match the preferred alternative. Increase in cost is based on the estimate for the preferred alternative.
(Source: June 2025 CTC Agenda, Agenda Item 2.1a.(1d) #58)

[LilianaUwU]

So the plan is to first have it ready as an evacuation route, then to work on it further to open it to everyone?

[Max Rockatansky]

Seemingly so, the insinuation seems to be eventual full reopening.

[cahwyguy]

So the plan is to first have it ready as an evacuation route, then to work on it further to open it to everyone?

That's unclear from the CTC minutes. All that is clear is that, for now, it is being opened as an evacuation route. We may know more if we can find the completed environmental document.

[gonealookin]

This might be "the appropriate thread" (found by going to Google and entering "California SR 39 site:aaroads.com/forum"):

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=22380.0

[cahwyguy]

This might be "the appropriate thread" (found by going to Google and entering "California SR 39 site:aaroads.com/forum"):

Ah, out of habit I used Route instead of SR (because that's the convention for auto-linking on my website), and I didn't restrict it to the forum. I was using search within the forum, not Google.

[pderocco]

I've never seen any forum whose search is anywhere near as good as a Google search of the forum. The only advantage is that the forum can narrow the search to a particular section or thread, but you're more likely to be trying to find the right section or thread.

[pderocco]

So the plan is to first have it ready as an evacuation route, then to work on it further to open it to everyone?

I can see it now: the fire's burning up the canyon, and everyone's crowding at the gate, saying "Who's got the key?"

[Rothman]

I've never seen any forum whose search is anywhere near as good as a Google search of the forum. The only advantage is that the forum can narrow the search to a particular section or thread, but you're more likely to be trying to find the right section or thread.

Pfft.  I have yet to see Google search all boards in our forum.  It leaves a couple out.

[ClassicHasClass]

So the plan is to first have it ready as an evacuation route, then to work on it further to open it to everyone?

I can see it now: the fire's burning up the canyon, and everyone's crowding at the gate, saying "Who's got the key?"

I knew there was a reason I keep boltcutters in the car.