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Started by NE2, September 18, 2025, 02:31:33 PM

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ElishaGOtis

I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

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Rothman

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PColumbus73


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Quote from: architect77 on September 27, 2025, 10:56:52 PMI've always wondered why this NC86 state highway truck route has special background that's carried through on all signs in Efland, NC right at the I-40/I-85 split.

eflandnc by Stephen Edwards, on Flickr

The original signage posted TRUCK NC-86 as normal lettering with diamond cutout on the BGS background, but it was ineffective in getting trucks to use CONN US-70 (formerly US-70X) as a truck route.  NC-86 is Churton Street in the historic downtown section of Hillsborough, which is closed to truck traffic.  Good thing, since northbound trucks (legal ones making local deliveries) trying to head uphill through downtown causes stop-and-go traffic all day long.

Not sure why NCDOT chose the white background, but it seems to have been effective for the most part.  Today, we see 2 or 3 through trucks daily heading northbound through downtown, whereas it was 20 or more through trucks some 20 years ago. 


Quote from: architect77 on September 27, 2025, 10:56:52 PMThere is a weigh station for trucks nearby if that's related to the white background.

There is a connection to weigh station, but not the one on I-85/I-40 west of here.  Rather, there is the old weigh station on US-70 between the Eno River and Hillsborough that serves as headquarters for the weigh station operations on the Interstate, as well as the local DMV License Plate agency (State Troopers assigned to weigh station operations serve double-duty here by also administering Commercial Drivers Licence (CDL) testing (perhaps the only such location in the state).

Anywhoosit, back 25 years ago the DMV regularly used the old eastbound scale location as a location with a temporary scale (gotcha!) to catch truckers that used US-70 to bypass the scales on the Interstate.  While this served the intended effect, it also had the unintentional effect of drawing truckers away from using TRUCK NC-86 and rather trying to sneak through downtown Hillsborough (as if anybody could sneak through there).

Cross-posting to the <North Carolina> thread.

hbelkins

Quote from: architect77 on September 29, 2025, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 28, 2025, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: architect77 on September 27, 2025, 10:30:59 PMGeorgia also has its own homemade looking sign reminding drivers to leave space around big trucks so they'll be seen as well as a fully loaded truck cannot stop as quickly as a passenger car.

spacega by Stephen Edwards, on Flickr

Kentucky uses those as well.

Is Kentucky's exactly like this one because I think it looks homemade on many levels, especially the symbols for the car and truck.

Best I can remember, although I'm not sure if the arrow and "OK" was in green or black text.

The one I saw most often, on I-75/I-64 northbound/eastbound prior to the US 27/68 exit, doesn't show up on the most recent KYTC photolog images prior to the construction that's underway there now.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

kphoger

That sign makes it look like it's OK to just perpendicular-park right in front of the truck.

Quote from: architect77 on September 27, 2025, 10:30:59 PM

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Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

hbelkins

Quote from: hbelkins on September 29, 2025, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: architect77 on September 29, 2025, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 28, 2025, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: architect77 on September 27, 2025, 10:30:59 PMGeorgia also has its own homemade looking sign reminding drivers to leave space around big trucks so they'll be seen as well as a fully loaded truck cannot stop as quickly as a passenger car.

spacega by Stephen Edwards, on Flickr

Kentucky uses those as well.

Is Kentucky's exactly like this one because I think it looks homemade on many levels, especially the symbols for the car and truck.

Best I can remember, although I'm not sure if the arrow and "OK" was in green or black text.

The one I saw most often, on I-75/I-64 northbound/eastbound prior to the US 27/68 exit, doesn't show up on the most recent KYTC photolog images prior to the construction that's underway there now.

Found an image from 2009. It's not exactly the same, but the message is the same.

Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

formulanone

Obey Warning Signs / State Law; redundant but unique to Texas.




Rothman

Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

kphoger

Quote from: formulanone on September 29, 2025, 06:30:18 PMObey Warning Signs / State Law; redundant but unique to Texas.



Not redundant.  Although Scott is still convinced it's nonsensical anyway.

Discussion here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=36282.msg2988526#msg2988526

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

formulanone

#110
Quote from: kphoger on September 29, 2025, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 29, 2025, 06:30:18 PMObey Warning Signs / State Law; redundant but unique to Texas.



Not redundant.  Although Scott is still convinced it's nonsensical anyway.

Discussion here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=36282.msg2988526#msg2988526

Yeah, I recall...it just feels like one of those band-aid signs created to make sure you can't wiggle out of another law.

Topic at hand: unique to Texas? I think so.

kphoger

Quote from: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 06:48:08 AMYeah, I recall...it just feels like one of those band-aid signs created to make sure you can't wiggle out of another law.

Agreed.

The irony is that, technically speaking, it's only redundant because...

(1)  The definition of "warning sign" in the pertinent code includes the phrase "warn or regulate motor vehicular traffic", which means that, in this context, regulatory signs are a subset of warning signs;

(2)  The sign itself is regulatory, as evidenced not only by its wording but also by its color and shape;  and therefore

(3)  It is a regulatory sign that instructs you to obey regulatory signs.

When we typically complain about this sign, on the other hand, we complain that it's impossible to obey, because warning signs cannot be obeyed.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

formulanone

#112
Quote from: kphoger on September 30, 2025, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 06:48:08 AMYeah, I recall...it just feels like one of those band-aid signs created to make sure you can't wiggle out of another law.

Agreed.

The irony is that, technically speaking, it's only redundant because...

(1)  The definition of "warning sign" in the pertinent code includes the phrase "warn or regulate motor vehicular traffic", which means that, in this context, regulatory signs are a subset of warning signs;

(2)  The sign itself is regulatory, as evidenced not only by its wording but also by its color and shape;  and therefore

(3)  It is a regulatory sign that instructs you to obey regulatory signs.

When we typically complain about this sign, on the other hand, we complain that it's impossible to obey, because warning signs cannot be obeyed.

(4) It also implies Texas is a "State", whereas half of the populace within its borders believes it is a separate country. Hence, why it's only in Texas. /s

kphoger

Quote from: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 09:47:32 AM(4) It also implies Texas is a "State", whereas half of the populace within its borders believes it is a separate country. Hence, why it's only in Texas. /s

Hey, at least they're not so stuck up with themselves that they insist on being called a Commonwealth.  [/s]

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

bulldog1979

Quote from: froggie on September 26, 2025, 10:32:49 AMThe UP of Michigan too, apparently...

Delta County is retiring black-on-white county road markers and switching to white-on-green. Marquette County still uses the older style though, as do several other counties such as Luce and Schoolcraft. There are counties, like Gogebic that use the blue pentagons though. (I'm on a pause, but I've been working on a project to inventory all of the primary county roads in the state for AARoads Wiki.)

bulldog1979

Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 26, 2025, 10:45:36 AMHas anywhere other than Cherokee County, AL, ever used black & white pentagons for County Route shields?
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1070809,-85.5580121,3a,15y,144.21h,81.98t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXfN1F1w7hqy33PipgJBPQQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D8.018342705767438%26panoid%3DXfN1F1w7hqy33PipgJBPQQ%26yaw%3D144.21365376479872!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkyMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

MDOT did some of these around Marquette County. The junctions with CR 492 on US 41/M-28 had them in Marquette Township and the city of Negaunee. The ones in Marquette Township were replaced with the correct square marker, and those in Negaunee were just removed at some point.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: Henry on September 18, 2025, 10:49:24 PMAnother IL exclusive is the variant of the sign disallowing bicycles, mopeds and pedestrians on freeways that reads USE PROHIBITED BY NON-HIGHWAY VEHICLES.

I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 30, 2025, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Henry on September 18, 2025, 10:49:24 PMAnother IL exclusive is the variant of the sign disallowing bicycles, mopeds and pedestrians on freeways that reads USE PROHIBITED BY NON-HIGHWAY VEHICLES.


I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

CtrlAltDel

I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

kphoger

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 30, 2025, 03:52:20 PMColorado also has these:


There's more than one of them?  I didn't remember that.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: kphoger on September 30, 2025, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 30, 2025, 03:52:20 PMColorado also has these:


There's more than one of them?  I didn't remember that.

I based that comment off of this:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5999.msg131530#msg131530

Apparently, though, this is the big enchilada as far as unconventional language goes.
I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

pderocco

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 30, 2025, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Henry on September 18, 2025, 10:49:24 PMAnother IL exclusive is the variant of the sign disallowing bicycles, mopeds and pedestrians on freeways that reads USE PROHIBITED BY NON-HIGHWAY VEHICLES.


I guess a motorcycle isn't a motor driven cycle.

ElishaGOtis

Quote from: hbelkins on September 29, 2025, 03:50:50 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 29, 2025, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: architect77 on September 29, 2025, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 28, 2025, 07:19:31 PM
Quote from: architect77 on September 27, 2025, 10:30:59 PMGeorgia also has its own homemade looking sign reminding drivers to leave space around big trucks so they'll be seen as well as a fully loaded truck cannot stop as quickly as a passenger car.

spacega by Stephen Edwards, on Flickr

Kentucky uses those as well.

Is Kentucky's exactly like this one because I think it looks homemade on many levels, especially the symbols for the car and truck.

Best I can remember, although I'm not sure if the arrow and "OK" was in green or black text.

The one I saw most often, on I-75/I-64 northbound/eastbound prior to the US 27/68 exit, doesn't show up on the most recent KYTC photolog images prior to the construction that's underway there now.

Found an image from 2009. It's not exactly the same, but the message is the same.



Image is not showing up for me... here's a GSV of what I think is it.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sk2fA4o6BMJVYURX7
I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

NOTE: Opinions expressed here on AARoads are solely my own and do not represent or reflect the statements, opinions, or decisions of any agency. Any official information I share will be quoted from another source.

hbelkins

Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Scott5114

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 30, 2025, 04:57:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 30, 2025, 04:11:39 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 30, 2025, 03:52:20 PMColorado also has these:


There's more than one of them?  I didn't remember that.

I based that comment off of this:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5999.msg131530#msg131530

Apparently, though, this is the big enchilada as far as unconventional language goes.

There was another one at one time that started "TRUCKERS DON'T BE FOOLED..." before the description of the grade. I know it existed because I redrew it off a photo, but it has apparently been removed or revised to more conventional language.
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