2013 city population estimates

Started by golden eagle, May 31, 2014, 07:12:39 PM

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Using the data provided for the State of New Jersey, I added the amount of change for each municipality from the previous year (2012), and showed the % increase/decrease. If anyone wants to view it, you can find it at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qq3j5a04940q4fm/NJ_Pop2013.xlsx
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golden eagle

Quote from: DTComposer on June 01, 2014, 11:31:39 AM
https://www.census.gov/popest/data/cities/totals/2013/index.html

Thanks for the link.

I was observing some of numbers nationally...Detroit is continuously sinking like a rock. They're now at 688K and fallen to the 18th largest city.

Nashville is less than 20K from overtaking Memphis as Tennessee's largest city. Nashville would've already done so had it not been for Memphis' annexation of Cordova during the 1990s.

San Jose just missed out on being a millionaire city, which would've put all top ten cities over a million. As fast as Austin is growing, I think they'll be there by 2020.

pianocello

Looks like Flint has dipped below the 100K mark for the first time since the 20s (unless somehow they added population before 2010).

It's good to see that 9 out of 11 cities in Iowa are steadily growing, especially the Des Moines suburbs of Ankeny (up 6000 to 51K) and West Des Moines (up 5000 to 61K). Interestingly, 3 cities in Iowa are within a thousand of each other (Council Bluffs, Ames, and West Des Moines, respectively). The order of those three is likely going to reverse itself in the next year.
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golden eagle

I was looking at Flint's population history, and it's amazing how fast it grew up until the 1960s, and seeing it dropped almost as fast since.

getemngo

Quote from: pianocello on June 01, 2014, 11:37:17 PM
Looks like Flint has dipped below the 100K mark for the first time since the 20s (unless somehow they added population before 2010).

In 1960, Flint was the second biggest city in Michigan. Now it's #7, and even two Detroit suburbs (Warren and Sterling Heights) are bigger than it. Have an MLive article about the impact of dropping below 100,000.

Erie, PA (100,671 and falling) and South Bend, IN (100,886 and falling) are both very close to entering this club.

In Michigan cities above 50,000 I see:
-Detroit, Lansing, Flint, Battle Creek, and Saginaw shrinking
-Grand Rapids (and Wyoming and Kentwood), Ann Arbor, and Kalamazoo growing
-Detroit's suburbs are about 50/50

I know that the state's population as a whole is rising again, but it's rising slowly enough that Georgia has now surpassed it in population, and North Carolina probably will too by the end of the decade. :no:
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Gnutella

For what it's worth, I don't think population growth is as good of an economic or quality-of-life barometer as it used to be. Between 2000 and 2010, the Pittsburgh metropolitan area decreased in population but had one of the highest rates of income growth among metropolitan areas with 1,000,000 or more people. Conversely, the Atlanta metropolitan area was one of only two with 1,000,000 or more people that didn't "stay whole" last decade, and it happened despite robust population growth.

golden eagle

Atlanta was hard hit during the recession, which could explain the area's income not rising.

vtk

Hmm, Charlotte looks like it's going to overtake Columbus in the next few years. Damn sun belt...
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iowahighways

Quote from: pianocello on June 01, 2014, 11:37:17 PM
It's good to see that 9 out of 11 cities in Iowa are steadily growing, especially the Des Moines suburbs of Ankeny (up 6000 to 51K) and West Des Moines (up 5000 to 61K). Interestingly, 3 cities in Iowa are within a thousand of each other (Council Bluffs, Ames, and West Des Moines, respectively). The order of those three is likely going to reverse itself in the next year.

Des Moines proper is only about 1,500 away from its all-time high, 208,982 in 1960.

Ankeny topping 50k was a matter of when, not if. A fourth interchange off I-35 opened about a year and a half ago.
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Austin, TX added almost 100,000 people in just three years (2010-13). That is insane growth. One more spurt like that and Texas will have four of 11 cities in the country over 1M (San Jose will be the 10th).

triplemultiplex

Cool, the Census Bureau has Milwaukee creeping back toward 600k.

I'm always interested in that 100,000 number because in my mind, that's a cutoff between a mid-sized city and a big city.  It means a larger font size on a map.  I make it a point to try and know where all those places are in the US.  I find it interesting.  Some cities are slipping below 100k like Flint.  Others are surging past it like Boulder or Broken Arrow (Wow a Tulsa suburb? How about that?)  Or Round Rock; that was quite a nice jump.  Not as nice as Kent, WA, though.
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on_wisconsin

Madison, WI is continuing its rapid march toward 300k, gaining 10,000'ish in three years.
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FightingIrish

The abandonment of Detroit is one issue here, but arguably an even bigger dropper is Cleveland, OH, which drops below 400,000. Back in the 50s, this was one of the biggest cities in the country - with just under a million people. Around 1980 or so, Columbus passed them to become the state's largest city. Now they're more than double the size of Cleveland!

This is a pretty interesting look at sizes of cities, but metro area sizes also merit a look. There are many cities like Indianapolis that dominate their metro areas due to land area size, while cities such as Minneapolis, Pittsburgh and Miami are smaller in area, as well as population, but have extensive suburban spread.

vtk

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In Ohio, I think county populations are the most interesting.  Our counties are all roughly the same size, and they make a fair surrogate for city size because they include the first ring of suburbs, but don't show the inflating effects of other nearby medium—large cities*.  Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) remained the most populous into the 90's IIRC, and then Hamilton County (Cincinnati) surpassed it.  Now Franklin County (Columbus) is expected to take the #1 spot very soon.

Delaware County (north neighbor of Franklin County) has led the state in percentage growth (by percent) most years in the last 25.  Last year it was news that Franklin County led the state in growth rate 2012—2013 by percent!

*This claim is meant only in the context of measuring the practical size of the largest cities, the effect of smaller but significant cities in nearby counties being minimized.  The population figures of small-city counties adjacent to large cities may indeed say more about the extended suburbs of the large city than about the small city at the core of the county.
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Zeffy

New Jersey continues to grow. I think by the end of 2014 we will eclipse the 9 million mark, which just goes to show: we're way too fucking dense in this state.

Now for some cities...

Camden - Decreasing, but that's a given until Camden can actually recover..
Jersey City - Increasing as Jersey City becomes more and more popular as a place to live.
Newark - Increasing, despite the NJ.com commentators telling everyone to move out.  :bigass:
Trenton - Increasing, which makes this interesting as the past years the population has only decreased in Trenton.
New Brunswick - Increasing, but as a college heavy city, this should be no surprise.
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Hartford has lost population over the years, but its small area has always constrained it. For example, San Jose, CA is 149 square miles, and almost a million people. Hartford is 17 square miles, and about 1/8 of a million. However, if you annexed enough surrounding towns to make 149 square miles (which would never happen, there would be blood in the streets, just like the song, but different city) then Hartford's population grows to about 365,000.
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golden eagle

Are there a lot of row houses and apartments/condos in Hartford? I just wonder how so many people fit in such a small area?



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