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Started by mgk920, May 30, 2012, 02:33:31 AM

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SEWIGuy

Yeah, what's the alternative to posting a large multiplex? There really isn't even an easy way to do what Indiana does with the US highways routed along the Indianapolis bypass.


WISFreeways

How about using the $37 million to help improve the westbound Exit 258 (Verona Rd.) off-ramp? That gets backed up frequently and it clearly needs some combination of traffic signal improvement, lane widening, and the like.  The Seminole Highway bridge will probably have to be replaced, though, and there is the Arboretum... so maybe it's unclear.
2009-era me chose this generic username...

The Ghostbuster

Or maybe implement Stage 3 of the Verona Rd. project that was previously planned.

dvferyance

Quote from: JREwing78 on July 08, 2026, 09:51:16 PMSounds like a win-win to me. I formerly lived just off Park St; the routing of US-151 through downtown Madison never made sense. Pretending Park St was anything other than a city street was folly.

It might've made more sense when Madison was far smaller and needed the state revenue to maintain those streets, but as explosively as the city has grown, they can certainly take on a few miles of city street.

If adding US-151 signs to the existing US-12/18, I-39/90, and I-39/90/94 multiplexes breaks your brain, it clearly sucks to be you. Anyone following US-151 not intending to stop in Madison was using this path anyway. They'll be able to blindly follow the US-151 markers and be assured they won't end up in downtown Madison.
I think that all through traffic has figured out not to follow 151 through Madison. I should also mention Colorado usually does not sign US highway duplexes with Interstates because there are so many of them there.

Molandfreak

Quote from: dvferyance on July 09, 2026, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: JREwing78 on July 08, 2026, 09:51:16 PMSounds like a win-win to me. I formerly lived just off Park St; the routing of US-151 through downtown Madison never made sense. Pretending Park St was anything other than a city street was folly.

It might've made more sense when Madison was far smaller and needed the state revenue to maintain those streets, but as explosively as the city has grown, they can certainly take on a few miles of city street.

If adding US-151 signs to the existing US-12/18, I-39/90, and I-39/90/94 multiplexes breaks your brain, it clearly sucks to be you. Anyone following US-151 not intending to stop in Madison was using this path anyway. They'll be able to blindly follow the US-151 markers and be assured they won't end up in downtown Madison.
I think that all through traffic has figured out not to follow 151 through Madison. I should also mention Colorado usually does not sign US highway duplexes with Interstates because there are so many of them there.
All is quite a lofty assertion.

Quote from: Molandfreak on June 02, 2026, 04:29:40 PMThe purpose of signing a highway is to create a helpful guide to travellers unfamiliar with the area. US 151 is otherwise consistent in quality outside of Madison. If surface streets within town need to be in the state highway system, they can be a business loop or some other highway.

Keeping US 151 on surface streets is not helpful to the folks who still depend on highway signage. Just use GPS is a particularly dumb argument when over half the country can't afford a $400 emergency, and thus are presumably on a limited data plan on their phones.

Inclusive infrastructure advocate

Revive 755

Quote from: SEWIGuy on July 09, 2026, 01:19:33 PMYeah, what's the alternative to posting a large multiplex? There really isn't even an easy way to do what Indiana does with the US highways routed along the Indianapolis bypass.

Getting some of the routes onto different alignments?  Going a little fictional:
  • Have US 151 run concurrently with US 51 between the Beltline and Washington Avenue - would at least get rid of a four route multiplex on the east side with I-39/I-90/I-94.
  • Get US 12 off the beltline. Perhaps have it run up to I-94 east of Madison, then run concurrently or replace parts of WI 30, WI 113, and WI 19.  Would reduce a couple larger multiplexes but require something for the Beltline between US 14 and WI 113.

TheCatalyst31

Quote from: JREwing78 on July 08, 2026, 09:51:16 PMIf adding US-151 signs to the existing US-12/18, I-39/90, and I-39/90/94 multiplexes breaks your brain, it clearly sucks to be you.
If you're a Wisconsin motorist and have an issue with excessive multiplexes, this may not be the state for you. The new US 151 route isn't going to be worse than what we already have.