What pisses you off the worst:The I-69 mess in Texas or the I-73-74 clusterfuck?

[bugo]

Which pisses you off the most?

[agentsteel53]

I-710.

[roadman65]

It was a hard decision to make as both make my stomach upset!  I ended up with the Texas mess.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

Between the I-69s and the I-73/I-74 mess, I choose... I-180 in Cheyenne WY.

[kj3400]

I-587, NY.

[Brian556]

These numbering issues don't piss me off.

It's when government agencies create unsafe situations or allow them to continue to exist, or when they allow congestion to occur or fail to fix it.

If a road is given a designation that is not in compliance, I can still drive on it the same way no matter what number it is.

If an unsafe situation is created or allowed to exist, it directly affects my personal safety, and that makes me angry.

Examples of things that piss me off because they endanger me:
1.Short merges
2.Left turns with inadequate visibility of oncoming traffic
3. Intersections with inadequate visibility
4.Intersections that don't have signals, but need them
5.Allowing other drivers to not signal or drive w/o lights, or speed.

Examples of things that piss me off because they inconvenience me:
1. Congestion
2. Unwarranted all-way stops
3. Bad Signal Timing
4. School Zones
5. School Busses

My personal safety is important to me. By creating unsafe situations, or allowing them to exist, the government is basically saying to me and everybody else "Fuck You, we don't care about you, we do whatever the hell we want". Government is supposed to be by the people, for the people. It has really fallen short of that.

I think it's a little ridiculous to get "pissed off" over a numbering issue, when there are so many more important issues to worry about.

[roadman65]

You mention school buses, I had an issue where the same school bus stopped twice within 100 feet to be nice to drop the child off at his apartment complex.  However, this was on a busy arterial where the bus could have killed two birds with one stone and stopped in the middle.

One woman customer at work was telling me how it used to be buses would not stop on arterials but on the side roads or go into the complexes.  I think that should be.

Also public  buses should have exclusive lanes or turnouts to keep them out of regular traffic.  In Orlando FDOT widened many highways but never included features for Lynx Buses to stop.  That does piss me and every driver out there as bus stops are usually post intersection and so damn close together.  At Sams on OBT you have a choice of walking to three places to catch a bus. 

[billtm]

The I-74\I-73 mess in North Carolina pisses me off more. I don't get what's so bad about I-69 in Texas. If the numbering is the problem then just make it I-47 south of Texarkana. And make 69 C and W into 3dis.

[Billy F 1988]

I think what pisses me off more than just a silly interstate allignment is the fact that I'm crossing a perpendicular cross street, be that of an "unmarked" crosswalk on a minor road connecting a major road trying to make eye contact with the driver coming into view and doesn't make eye contact with me while I'm still crossing the street!

[Brian556]

quote from roadman 65:

Also public  buses should have exclusive lanes or turnouts to keep them out of regular traffic.  In Orlando FDOT widened many highways but never included features for Lynx Buses to stop.  That does piss me and every driver out there as bus stops are usually post intersection and so damn close together.  At Sams on OBT you have a choice of walking to three places to catch a bus.

I strongly agree. It is really unfair to motorists that busses are allowed to stop in traffic lanes of busy streets and block traffic. The LYNX busses stopping on SR 50 in Colonialtown is ridiculous. They should have to stop on side streets out of the way.

[jbnv]

Ambassador Caffery Parkway in Lafayette, LA. Especially between Walmart and Johnston St. Especially at Christmastime.

[jeffandnicole]

Depends.  Which highway is the left lane hog located?  That's the highway that pisses me off more.

[Brandon]

Between the two, I-73/74 is more irritating.  It will never ever be completed, and another number should have been chosen for the eastern I-74 when it was obvious it will never be completed.  I-69 is strange, but should be completed.

Neither is an irritation worth worrying about.

Now, for road building, what really pisses me off is...

A. The removal of fund for building the Prairie Parkway between I-80 and I-88 west of Yorkville.  It is a much needed route, and it should have been built first, then IL-47 should have had improvements.  And...

B. The interference from outside groups regarding the Illiana Expressway.  Another very necessary route that needed to be built yesterday.

[JCinSummerfield]

I voted for the mess in NC, but the one that pisses me off most is WI's over-consumption of 2di's.

[Scott5114]

I voted for the mess in NC, but the one that pisses me off most is WI's over-consumption of 2di's.

There are far worse offenders than WI for this.

[Brandon]

I voted for the mess in NC, but the one that pisses me off most is WI's over-consumption of 2di's.

There are far worse offenders than WI for this.

Such as a certain state just to the south of Wisconsin we like to Ill-Annoy.

Compare:
WI - 39, 41, 43, 90, 94
IL - 24, 39, 41 (a whole fucking mile!), 55, 57, 64, 70, 72, 74, 80, 88, 90, 94
Not to mention Illinois made a play for I-37 (now I-155) and I-53 (now I-355).  That would've made 15.  I'm shocked IDOT didn't try to extend I-44 eastward into the state!

Trivia question: Which state has the most 2dis?
Answer: Illinois with 13.  Texas only has 11 (not counting the suffixed I-35s and I-69s), soon to be 12 (w/I-49).

[Henry]

I-73/I-74 is the one I despise more! At least there is an effort to complete I-69 from eastern TX back to Indianapolis.

[english si]

I-73 is fine - not ideal, but perfectly tolerable. I-74 on the other hand is quite irksome, not least its route with the U-turn!

[hbelkins]

I-238. 

I voted for 73/74. Both are hopelessly out of place, even more than I-99 which gives so many people heartburn.

I can see the logic in the two I-84s because they are located so far apart but are pretty much along the same latitude. I-74 in North Carolina doesn't make a whole lot of sense, especially since it will never be connected to I-74 in Ohio. I-73 could be numbered something else.

I-69 is going to be a complete route, and the suffixed routes should be changed to something else, but at least that's eventually going to be connected to existing 69 in Indiana. Not so for 74, and there's not going to be an I-73 in Ohio despite the wishes of some.

[TEG24601]

I voted for I-69, because the whole I-69C thing is stupid.


However, I understand the issues with I-73/74.


I'm more pissed off about the NIMBY people that prevent the construction of freeways, extra lanes on the highway, roundabouts, or anything else that can reduce congestion, and instead continue to bitch about the congestion.

[Zeffy]

I-69. Yeah, I-73/74 is a mess to say the least, but still don't get what the hell I-69C is supposed to even stand for. Suffixed Interstates are ugly anyway.

I can see the logic in the two I-84s because they are located so far apart but are pretty much along the same latitude. I-74 in North Carolina doesn't make a whole lot of sense, especially since it will never be connected to I-74 in Ohio. I-73 could be numbered something else.

What about the west portion of I-76?

[hotdogPi]

I-69. Yeah, I-73/74 is a mess to say the least, but still don't get what the hell I-69C is supposed to even stand for.

C stands for central (there's an east already, and there's planned to be a west). But let's pretend C stands for crap, since that's what I-69C is.

[Zeffy]

I-69. Yeah, I-73/74 is a mess to say the least, but still don't get what the hell I-69C is supposed to even stand for.

C stands for central (there's an east already, and there's planned to be a west). But let's pretend C stands for crap, since that's what I-69C is.

Someone explain to me why 69C needs to exist in the first place. 69W and 69E at least are normal suffixes. Is US 281 not enough that it needs to be 69C?

[Perfxion]

Welcome to Texas, where everything is bigger. Even the bone headed moves.

[hotdogPi]

Welcome to Texas, where everything is bigger. Even the bone headed moves.

I would not call these Interstates "bigger". They're quite short.