Is Interstate 95 the only mainline Interstate that still isn't complete?

Started by Quillz, October 14, 2010, 05:15:01 PM

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Alps

Quote from: PAHighways on October 17, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 14, 2010, 05:44:59 PM70 is a fairly stiff gap.  Is there any plan to build a bypass around Breezewood?

No
Weeeeeeeeeeell... there are plans, but every time it gets brought up, the businesses shoot it down, and for some reason no one is willing to anger them (there really aren't that many), so the plans have never made it to a firm design.

PAHighways

Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 17, 2010, 06:04:07 PMWeeeeeeeeeeell... there are plans, but every time it gets brought up, the businesses shoot it down, and for some reason no one is willing to anger them (there really aren't that many), so the plans have never made it to a firm design.

I know, I've said that here and on my I-70 page.

The only "plan," or idea, was pushed forth from a Pittsburgh state senator that was involved in an accident there, but there was never any actual proposals studied or even pushed as far as artist renderings or blueprints drawn up.

TheStranger

Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 17, 2010, 01:36:55 PM
And what's the Joe DiMaggio Highway anyway?

I guess that's the new official name for the West Side Highway, but does anyone even call it that?
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How about  I- 49  in Louisiana?  Isn't  that  supposed to connect  Lafayette  with New Orleans,  and eventually  hook up  with I- 30  north of Shreveport  in Texarkana? 

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Well, I-49 is not an original interstate.  Neither is I-69 south of Indy.
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Quote from: TheStranger on October 17, 2010, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 17, 2010, 01:36:55 PM
And what's the Joe DiMaggio Highway anyway?

I guess that's the new official name for the West Side Highway, but does anyone even call it that?
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Quillz

Yeah, I think I should specify that I'm referring specifically to the Interstate highways planned back in 1957, not ones that were added later.

That is to say, I-95 is an original 1957 Interstate highway and is still not officially complete yet.

jwolfer

its funny that 1 interchage is talking years and years to build when the entire NJTP was built in less than 2

mightyace

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There are many reasons:

1) No environmental impact statements.
2) Less NIMBYism.
3) Lower relative (and actual) construction cost.

But the biggest is...
4) The New Jersey Turnpike Authority is NOT the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission with its phobia to making interstate connections.
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froggie

QuoteThat is to say, I-95 is an original 1957 Interstate highway and is still not officially complete yet.

Neither is I-67.  Bonus points if you know where I-67 was going to be.

Brandon

Quote from: froggie on October 29, 2010, 08:32:15 PM
QuoteThat is to say, I-95 is an original 1957 Interstate highway and is still not officially complete yet.

Neither is I-67.  Bonus points if you know where I-67 was going to be.

What is South Bend to Kalamazoo, Alex?
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Also, I-40 was never completed through Memphis, TN and it has since been rerouted with the interchanges where the 'Plan B' turns are made being re-engineered to reflect the reroute.

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Alps

Quote from: mightyace on October 29, 2010, 06:55:36 PM
But the biggest is...
4) The New Jersey Turnpike Authority is NOT the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission with its phobia to making interstate connections.
See, I actually live there.  How about Turnpike at NJ 42?  Disaster area there thanks to the old connection at NJ 168.  How about Turnpike and I-295, they run next to each other but NO signs to 295 at all on the mainline.  Turnpike doesn't connect to the Pulaski Skyway - you have to use the truck route to get to 1/9.

TheStranger

Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 29, 2010, 11:44:16 PM
How about Turnpike and I-295, they run next to each other but NO signs to 295 at all on the mainline.

Is that true on the south terminus as well where the NJTP splits off of 295? 

I wonder how many people are savvy enough to take 295 instead of the NJTP (and avoid tolls) between the Delaware Memorial Bridge and I-195...
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Quote from: TheStranger on October 17, 2010, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 17, 2010, 01:36:55 PM
And what's the Joe DiMaggio Highway anyway?

I guess that's the new official name for the West Side Highway, but does anyone even call it that?

A name likely to be used about as much as the Robert F. Kennedy Bridge and Avenue of the Americas.
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mightyace

Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 29, 2010, 11:44:16 PM
Quote from: mightyace on October 29, 2010, 06:55:36 PM
But the biggest is...
4) The New Jersey Turnpike Authority is NOT the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission with its phobia to making interstate connections.
See, I actually live there.  How about Turnpike at NJ 42?  Disaster area there thanks to the old connection at NJ 168.  How about Turnpike and I-295, they run next to each other but NO signs to 295 at all on the mainline.  Turnpike doesn't connect to the Pulaski Skyway - you have to use the truck route to get to 1/9.

Touche.

I guess the PA ones are just better known.  With "thanks" going to Breezewood.  Or maybe it's that I grew up in PA and not NJ.
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Response of the Bedford County planning commission when a friend of mine asked why Breezewood was never considered for a bypass:  "Do you want to put people out of a job?"
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agentsteel53

Quote from: J N Winkler on November 01, 2010, 04:39:16 PM
Response of the Bedford County planning commission when a friend of mine asked why Breezewood was never considered for a bypass:  "Do you want to put people out of a job?"

somehow, every other community on the interstate has managed to deal with it.  Only one holdout insists that the freeway run through the middle of town and feature traffic lights.
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J N Winkler

Well, it is abundantly clear from the response my friend got that the local planning authorities are never going to push for a bypass.  The really interesting question is how they are able to frustrate it at the state level, since bypassing Breezewood is of statewide significance and there are interests well outside the immediate vicinity which would benefit.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: J N Winkler on November 01, 2010, 05:39:12 PM
Well, it is abundantly clear from the response my friend got that the local planning authorities are never going to push for a bypass.  The really interesting question is how they are able to frustrate it at the state level, since bypassing Breezewood is of statewide significance and there are interests well outside the immediate vicinity which would benefit.

whose nude and compromising photos do they have in the safe under the Breezewood courthouse??  Ed Rendell's?
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This goes back long before Fast Eddie was mayor of Philly, much less governor of Penn's Woods.
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agentsteel53

yes, but what keeps it going?  who has been in politics since the late 1950s that can be continually blackmailed so heavily?
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2010, 12:08:21 AM
yes, but what keeps it going?  who has been in politics since the late 1950s that can be continually blackmailed so heavily?

Follow the money.
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above

agentsteel53

Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:12:32 AM

Follow the money.


I don't have the time to dig into the intricacies of Pennsylvania state politics.  Since you've clearly done the research, want to tell me the answer?
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