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2010 U.S. Census thread

Started by golden eagle, January 25, 2011, 11:44:05 PM

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Landshark

Quote from: Landshark on March 04, 2011, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on February 24, 2011, 10:42:49 PM

WASHINGTON: Snoqualmie (554.2%), North Marysville (-99.5)

North Marysville was an unincorporated area annexed into Marysville.  It actually grew like crazy over the last decade.  I posted the correct answer for Washington below your initial post.  Endicott was the fastest dying place in Washington.


The Seattle Times has an article on Endicott, the fastest dying place in Washington:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014547169_censussmalltowns20m.html


Stephane Dumas


SP Cook

Relating Kentucky's numbers to roads policy, while KY stays at six congressman, its map will have to be redone greatly.  Population losses, huge population losses, in many of the counties making up KY-5, the House Appropriations Chairman and a big advocate of road building, especially in KY-5.  That district, created when KY lost a seat after the 1990 Census, is a very odd mix of 90-10 democrat coal counties, and 90-10 Republican rural farming counties who, as the saying goes, "vote the way their ancestors shot" in the Civil War.  Protecting Rogers will be difficult without a major redraw of all of KY's districts.

rawmustard

Michigan's census results were released today, and while population overall declined, there were some areas of growth. Detroit lost 25% of its population from the 2000 census, with a 2010 count of 713,777.


brownpelican

People continue to wake up and get the hell out of Detroit.

brownpelican

The Louisiana special session on redistricting started Monday in Baton Rouge and it's getting ugly. Jindal and most Republicans want to leave the Shreveport- and Monroe-based congressional districts alone and get rid of Congressional newcomer Jeff Landry (a GOPer)'s seat, pitting him against fellow GOPer Charles Boustany. Other lawmakers want Shreveport and Monroe put in a new district.

Story:
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/03/talks_to_shape_new_legislative.html

Here are the proposals:
* With north-south northern Louisiana districts:
http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=733199

* One version with east-west oriented districts:
http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=733207

* Another version with east-west districts:
http://house.louisiana.gov/H_Redistricting2011/Plans/Congress/Map_Gallot1A_0317011.pdf

* And another one:
http://house.louisiana.gov/H_Redistricting2011/Plans/Congress/Map_Gallot1B_0317011.pdf

* And yet another one:
http://house.louisiana.gov/H_Redistricting2011/Plans/Congress/Map_Gallot1C_0317011.pdf


J N Winkler

Quote from: brownpelican on March 23, 2011, 10:41:58 PMPeople continue to wake up and get the hell out of Detroit.

Kwame Kilpatrick has much to answer for.  His failed attempt to cover up his sex texting cost every man, woman, and child in Detroit about nine dollars each.
"It is necessary to spend a hundred lire now to save a thousand lire later."--Piero Puricelli, explaining the need for a first-class road system to Benito Mussolini

agentsteel53

Quote from: J N Winkler on March 23, 2011, 10:59:52 PM

Kwame Kilpatrick has much to answer for.  His failed attempt to cover up his sex texting cost every man, woman, and child in Detroit about nine dollars each.

really now?  I elect to re-interpret this a different way.  the fact that people care about whom Kwame K sex-texts has cost the population nine dollars each.

really, people - don't you have anything better to worry about???
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Stephane Dumas

West Virginia have some growth in the Eastern Panhandle from peoples from the Baltimore-Washington area who found a more reasonnable housing prices. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2011-03-24-WVirginia24_ST_N.htm

SP Cook

West Virginia redistricting is going to be brutal.  Huge gains in the two counties that are becoming bedroom communities of DC, with gains of over 25% population.  As USA Today say, much tied to becoming a DC suburb, also to one of WV's few enlightened tax laws, it does not tax warehouse inventories intended for reshipment, and lots of companies have clustered parts warehouses on I-81 for that reason.   If you exclude those two counties, the rest of the state would have joined Michigan in losing population overall.  Losses everywhere else, except Monongalia County (WVU) and a few mountain counties that never had much population to start with.  The most stark maps of the year, IMHO are WV and MI.

Stephane Dumas

Someone did a interesting map of the Chicago Ward Map http://robparal.com/ChicagoWards.html

rawmustard

Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 24, 2011, 12:31:37 AM
really now?  I elect to re-interpret this a different way.  the fact that people care about whom Kwame K sex-texts has cost the population nine dollars each.

really, people - don't you have anything better to worry about???

If it were just the sexting, I would tend to agree. However, in his attempts to conceal the facts around the firing of Gary Brown and the subsequent secret settlement paid by the city (i.e, the taxpayers), Kilpatrick testified in open court that he wasn't having a romantic relationship with his chief-of-staff Christine Beatty. As we all know, the text messages proved otherwise. But not only was there the perjury case, there's also his supposed involvement with interfering with the Tamara Greene murder investigation as well as federal charges for corruption and racketeering. I'd say the latter is far more serious and any Detroit taxpayer should be rightly concerned about how city contracts were awarded under Kwame's administration.

But to steer this back on topic, Detroit now has to worry about losing millions in revenue because several special laws which were passed to cover cities with a population 750,000 or more obviously no longer apply.

elsmere241

Quote from: rawmustard on March 24, 2011, 08:39:41 AMBut to steer this back on topic, Detroit now has to worry about losing millions in revenue because several special laws which were passed to cover cities with a population 750,000 or more obviously no longer apply.

The population threshold on those laws used to be 1,000,000 - I remember because this came up with the 1990 count.

J N Winkler

#214
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 24, 2011, 12:31:37 AMreally now?  I elect to re-interpret this a different way.  the fact that people care about whom Kwame K sex-texts has cost the population nine dollars each.

Rawmustard has supplied the background, so I would just add that the issue was not really the sex texting (consenting adults and all that), but rather the coverup.  The problem with coverups is that even if the motivation is later found to be entirely to conceal personal embarrassment, people still have to yank off the lid to make sure nothing else of genuine public interest is also being covered up.  The same coverup that conceals an inappropriate relationship can easily extend to issues of genuine public interest such as graft, concealment of felonies, etc.
"It is necessary to spend a hundred lire now to save a thousand lire later."--Piero Puricelli, explaining the need for a first-class road system to Benito Mussolini

agentsteel53

the murder investigation is indeed something else. 

I just wish our society would evolve to the point where, in response to "have you been having a romantic relationship with your chief of staff?" the only polite and accepted answer would be "go fuck yourself".
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golden eagle

I was having a discussion with an Atlanta resident on another message board and his reasoning for a much-lower Atlanta count was because Sandy Springs and Dunwoody may've been counted as part of Atlanta prior to their incorporations, despite that they were not part of the city itself. He said Sandy Springs residents paid Atlanta taxes, again, despite being an unincorporated area. Sandy Springs' population is over 80K, with Dunwoody around 40K. If you had them both, along with Atlanta's population, it would be equal to prior census estimations of Atlanta's population.

Stephane Dumas

#217
there some big demographics changes in Washington DC.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/dc-census-2010/

Edit: The NY Times also posted a map showing the 2010 Census in the entire country
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/map?hp

Desert Man

#218
California has now 36.5 million residents, a gain of 3 million, the slowest Cal. experienced in a century (1900-10). Its demographic changes shown not there's NO racial/ethnic majority, the Latino/Hispanic sector surpassed Anglo for the first time since statehood 160 years ago. About 40 percent claim Latino/Hispanic origin, compared to 38.5% of Anglo/European-American descent, while African-Americans continue to decline under 6% and Asian-Americans are at 9% sandwiched in between rapid-growing Latinos and Native Americans: whom are 2.5% of the state population of both Hispanic/Latin and North American origins. "Other" is estimated at 10% including Pacific Islander (1.8%) along with some Mexican-Americans used the "other" designation as a "race" though Hispanic/Latino is only an ethnic category based on nationality, culture and the Spanish language.

But most demographers don't believe Hispanics/Latinos in Cal. will become a majority anytime in the 21st century, due to other Latin American immigration patterns in other states of the union and US-born Latinos relocate to other states along with about 2-3 million Whites, Blacks in a higher percentage per ratio of their numbers and even Asians find new homes in other states in the time period left Cal. (1990-2010). Cal. is one of 4 or 5 states where White Anglos are a minority, as well "minority-majority" states, including Hawaii, New Mexico, followed by Texas (2005) and soon Florida. The 2010 census finds New York state will become the 4th most populated (at 16-18 million people), is losing that rank to Florida.  

The black majority of Washington DC is in decline, due to shifts of blacks into suburban areas of Maryland and Virginia. Black communities in the urban Northeast and West coast are nearly gone or abandoned for nearby towns or counties, and a new "great migration" of middle-class African-Americans with family roots and lineage ties into the South/Southeastern states. The original "great migrations" of rural Southern blacks moving to the industrial urban North was a significant demographic event in the USA during the early half of the 20th century. But the USA experiences the repeat of large immigration, this time from the continents of Asia and Africa, and esp. the Americas other than exclusively from pre-WWII Europe.
Get your kicks...on Route 99! Like to turn 66 upside down. The other historic Main street of America.

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: Mike D boy on August 07, 2011, 09:28:04 PM

The black majority of Washington DC is in decline, due to shifts of blacks into suburban areas of Maryland and Virginia. Black communities in the urban Northeast and West coast are nearly gone or abandoned for nearby towns or counties, and a new "great migration" of middle-class African-Americans with family roots and lineage ties into the South/Southeastern states. The original "great migrations" of rural Southern blacks moving to the industrial urban North was a significant demographic event in the USA during the early half of the 20th century. But the USA experiences the repeat of large immigration, this time from the continents of Asia and Africa, and esp. the Americas other than exclusively from pre-WWII Europe.

That reminds me of an article I saw at http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-rodriguez-whitecities-20110725,0,7955238.column  then someone at Skyscraperpage mentionned http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5363322&postcount=1364

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: SP Cook on March 20, 2011, 07:22:16 AM
I'm sure there are bloggers that want all sorts of things.

Suits over the Census have always been unsuccessful.  For a good reason.  Nobody has ever been able to prove any of the conspiracy theories surrounding "planned undercounts".

As an employee of the Census Bureau, I can assure you that there is little chance of any numbers getting fudged.  First of all, only the Director of the CB is a political appointee and the rest are career statisticians, so among any small group of people with access to data, you are certain to have both Republicans and Democrats.  Secondly, the data passes through a large number of people, making it very unlikely that any fudging could go undetected and/or kept secret.
Indiana: counties 100%, highways 100%
Illinois: counties 100%, highways 61%
Michigan: counties 100%, highways 56%
Wisconsin: counties 86%, highways 23%

Desert Man

Cabiness has a dream job (maybe I should get it before its gone...while it lasts due to federal budget job). LOL! Demographers like to watch cities grow.

California has a few communities with over 50,000 persons per square mile, usually located in the southeastern end of L.A. by the city limits, but also in Santa Ana of Orange County.

It is known for a fact that San Francisco, Santa Monica, Berkeley, Palm Springs and other most affluent communities have extremely low population growth rates, by factors such as a high percentage are singles (esp. retirees and senior widow/ers) and childless/ no children couples live in them. The "Gaying and Graying" is a phrase on the GLBT community made these communities their homes with near-majorities of some neighborhoods (i.e. Hillcrest in San Diego, West Hollywood and Castro District in San Francisco). The census doesn't collect data on sexual orientation, but there is data on how many registered married couples and non-married partnerships I think made it to the record.
Get your kicks...on Route 99! Like to turn 66 upside down. The other historic Main street of America.

Stephane Dumas

Sorry for dusting-off this topic. ^^; I could call it the "census aftermath".

I spotted this article via the City-Data forums
http://www.city-data.com/forum/michigan/1468657-article-study-shows-people-moving-michigan.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/10/10080954-study-shows-people-are-moving-to-michigan
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In the last year, more people relocating for jobs became Texans and Virginians than New Yorkers and Kansans.

At least those were the findings of a relocation study recently released by Atlas Van Lines, one of the nation's largest moving companies. Overall, the number of moves nationally, which were mainly due to new job placement, increased by 7 percent last year to 80,289, up from 74,541 a year ago.

"Our annual migration patterns study is an interesting gauge of the economy, where economic development is taking place and trends to follow throughout the upcoming year,"  said Jack Griffin, president and COO of Atlas World Group, which reviews moving patterns annually. "These new findings are especially promising, as we saw the number of moves increase yet again across North America."

Washington, D.C., had the highest percentage of inbound moves for the sixth year in a row, while Ohio continued to have the highest percentage of outbound migrators.


golden eagle

New 2011 state population estimates

I'll post the top ten (I rounded the numbers):

1. CA--37.7M

2. TX--25.7

3. NY--19.5

4. FL--19.1

5. IL--12.9

6. PA--12.7

7. OH--11.5

8. MI--9.88

9. GA--9.82

10. NC--9.66

As Michigan's population declines or stays relatively stagnant, both Georgia and North Carolina will surpass the Wolverine State within the next few years. Eventually, they'll get past OH, PA and even IL. It might two before decades that happens.

SP Cook

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on January 31, 2012, 10:24:33 AM
Sorry for dusting-off this topic. ^^; I could call it the "census aftermath".


Its a great topic.  And the Census does have an aftermath.  It is called redistricting.  Every congressional seat (except the 8 states with one represenative), every state senate and state assembly distict and, in most large cites, every ward, must be redrawn.

The national newsmedia only focuses on Congress, and only focuses on the gross change between states (Ohio lost 2 and Texas gained 4 and all of that) and not of the shift within states, and, armed with computer technology, the ability of legislatures to draw contorted districts for varrious purposes (a fundamentally different system than most western democracies, where districts are logical and compact, for the most part). 

I urge people to pay attention to redistricting.




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