Control City "Snubbing"

[Alps]

Better yet, the sign was placed when the I-78 freeway ended at present day Exit 3 in Greenwich, NJ. You had no choice but to use US 22 from that particular point westward.

I envision a sequel to "_Simon"'s dream story...

I have actually been around longer than you.  Also you can look at factual evidence too.  I-78 into Pennsylvania was opened in 1990, and that sign predates that, and when I-78 ended there at Still Valley motorists had no choice but to use US 22 to reach the PA part of I-78 west of Allentown.  I think you had to pass through Phillipsburg en route just as you did Easton which is another control city used in NJ for I-78 WB.

FYI the button copies with Exit numbers went up in the mid 1980's as I-78 did not have exit numbers prior to that.  In fact Exits 33, 36, and 40 used road names: Martinsville Road, King George Road, and Hilcrest Road instead of the county route numbers.  That sign at Exit 20 was part of that same project as before that it used another assembly with fluorescent fixtures.

Common Steve, even you should be able to determine the age of that sign as you have seen it in person.  You know I-78 through Phillipsburg was killed many years prior to its determined age.

I should know better than to expect reading comprehension from you, even for just one sentence.

[PColumbus73]

The biggest recent snub I have seen is on I-475 in Toledo where the new US 24 Fort to Port signage shows Napoleon (westbound) rather than Fort Wayne and Maumee (eastbound), and Fort Wayne is hardly mentioned in Ohio. On the Indiana side, the eastbound guide signs do show Toledo as the control city. On US 24 at US 6, you see Kendallville and Chicago as control cities, though.

BTW, I was surprised to see most of the stretch from Toledo to Napoleon posted at 70MPH - even where at grade intersections exist near Napoleon.

Napoleon has always been the CC for US-24 West out of the Maumee area.  There is nothing wrong with "snubbing" Fort Wayne in Toledo. 

Napoleon population: 8,749
Fort Wayne population: 254,555
Toledo population: 287,208

When US 24 was a two lane highway, Napoleon was a good choice. Now that it is a freeway/expressway all the way through, I don't think so.

I think Ohio's practice is to sign the nearest county seat on US Route expressways such as 23, 24, and 35. On Route 23, Toledo doesn't become a control city until Upper Sandusky. Also, On Route 35 going westbound, Dayton doesn't become a control city until around Xenia (even I-71 ignores Dayton at the US 35 exit).

With that said, on US 24, Fort Wayne should have been added to the signage at I-475/US 24 as a control city on top of Napoleon.

[Bitmapped]

The biggest recent snub I have seen is on I-475 in Toledo where the new US 24 Fort to Port signage shows Napoleon (westbound) rather than Fort Wayne and Maumee (eastbound), and Fort Wayne is hardly mentioned in Ohio. On the Indiana side, the eastbound guide signs do show Toledo as the control city. On US 24 at US 6, you see Kendallville and Chicago as control cities, though.

BTW, I was surprised to see most of the stretch from Toledo to Napoleon posted at 70MPH - even where at grade intersections exist near Napoleon.

Napoleon has always been the CC for US-24 West out of the Maumee area.  There is nothing wrong with "snubbing" Fort Wayne in Toledo. 

Napoleon population: 8,749
Fort Wayne population: 254,555
Toledo population: 287,208

When US 24 was a two lane highway, Napoleon was a good choice. Now that it is a freeway/expressway all the way through, I don't think so.

I think Ohio's practice is to sign the nearest county seat on US Route expressways such as 23, 24, and 35. On Route 23, Toledo doesn't become a control city until Upper Sandusky. Also, On Route 35 going westbound, Dayton doesn't become a control city until around Xenia (even I-71 ignores Dayton at the US 35 exit).

With that said, on US 24, Fort Wayne should have been added to the signage at I-475/US 24 as a control city on top of Napoleon.

As PColumbus73 said, Ohio's normal practice is to use the next county seat or city (5,000+ population) as the control city for non-Interstate freeways and expressways.  There are some exceptions but seeing Napoleon listed doesn't surprise me at all.  Pennsylvania is pretty much the same way with its control cities.

[PurdueBill]

I have always found it odd that on I-75 the control cities for US 30 are Beaverdam and Delphos, while entrances from other nearby roads (e.g., OH 235, US 68, OH 37, even CR 330) advertise Mansfield and Fort Wayne. The exit from the Upper Sandusky bypass for 30 WB shows Van Wert, a reasonable choice.  Wouldn't Mansfield and Fort Wayne make more sense on the signs on I-75?  (I know the I-75 signs are for OH 696 TO US 30, but still....)
There is even a pull-through on US 30 WB near Delphos advertising Fort Wayne, not Van Wert, so the precedent is there.

[mrsman]

South Bend is never used as a control city on the Indiana Toll Road (I-80/90).  Control "cities" are Chicago and Ohio for the entire length of the road.

I always thought this was weird.  Usually a state will snub another state's city [Other Desert Cities] or list every minor city in its state [I-80 Penn.].  Here, Indiana is snubbing its own city and ignoring that it even exists.

South Bend is a perfectly fine city for a control city and should be signed more on the Toll Road.

[PHLBOS]

Other Delaware Valley/Philadelphia area control city snubs:

1.  Aside from one supplemental BGS along I-476 northbound, shortly before the I-76/PA 23 interchange; there's no listing of Harrisburg on any I-76 West BGS' from Philly to just before US 202/422.

2.  There's no mention of King of Prussia on any I-76/276 BGS' (excluding I-76's Exits 328B & 329) nor US 202 southbound signage north of Norristown.

3.  There's no mention of Norristown on any US 202 northbound signage south of King of Prussia.

4.  Originally, Allentown was to be a listed control destination for the Blue Route portion of I-476 northbound (one old button-copy pull-through BGS mounted just before the exit ramp for I-76 Westbound that displayed such was removed when I-476 south of I-76 opened in late 1991) but got sidelined for Plymouth Meeting.  Note: no major highway west, south & east of there has Plymouth Meeting listed as a destination.

[mukade]

South Bend is never used as a control city on the Indiana Toll Road (I-80/90).  Control "cities" are Chicago and Ohio for the entire length of the road.

South Bend is a perfectly fine city for a control city and should be signed more on the Toll Road.

I agree. The population of the South Bend Combined Statistical Area is 721,296 so that makes it worthy of being a control city on the ITR. At least South Bend is a control city on US 31 (at least as far south as Kokomo).