I-99 in NY - it's official

[I94RoadRunner]

Driving through the I-86/I-99 interchange, I noticed that the BGSs now have I-99 shields, as greenout patches over the old US 15 shields.  I did not see any mention of, or any auxiliary signage for, US 15, though US 15 reassurance signs still exist.  I was not able to grab any photos.

That seems to be a bit premature since I-99 is not yet signed south of the PA/NY state line. Some travelers not familiar could get confused if they are looking for US 15 rather than I-99 .....?

[Duke87]

New York really doesn't like US highways and never has. US 15 was already dropped internally several years ago, the new signs as far as NYSDOT is concerned show the correct number.

[vdeane]

NY 17 is facing a similar issue.  Newer installs in Regions 5 and 6 tend to be for I-86 alone.

[cl94]

NY 17 is facing a similar issue.  Newer installs in Regions 5 and 6 tend to be for I-86 alone.

By "newer installs", basically anything put up in the current decade. If an NY 17 sign goes down, it doesn't get replaced. No reason to sign it west of Waverly.

[I94RoadRunner]

New York really doesn't like US highways and never has. US 15 was already dropped internally several years ago, the new signs as far as NYSDOT is concerned show the correct number.

I guess you have a point. I was born in western NY and after reading on the history of some of the numbers, I would tend to agree that NY is not US route friendly .....

[cl94]

New York really doesn't like US highways and never has. US 15 was already dropped internally several years ago, the new signs as far as NYSDOT is concerned show the correct number.

I guess you have a point. I was born in western NY and after reading on the history of some of the numbers, I would tend to agree that NY is not US route friendly .....

Let's see...7, 15, 104, and 309 are gone entirely, 219 will likely be biting the dust (at least partially) if it ever is 100% limited access north of I-86...yep. Ever notice how often signs downgrade the remaining 16 (signed) routes to NY routes?

[roadman65]

New York really doesn't like US highways and never has. US 15 was already dropped internally several years ago, the new signs as far as NYSDOT is concerned show the correct number.

I guess you have a point. I was born in western NY and after reading on the history of some of the numbers, I would tend to agree that NY is not US route friendly .....

Let's see...7, 15, 104, and 309 are gone entirely, 219 will likely be biting the dust (at least partially) if it ever is 100% limited access north of I-86...yep. Ever notice how often signs downgrade the remaining 16 (signed) routes to NY routes?

When was US 7 in New York?

[Zeffy]

When was US 7 in New York?

This is what Wiki has to say about it:

In the original plan for the U.S. Highway System, as approved by the Bureau of Public Roads in November 1926,[28] US 7 was defined as beginning in New York City and designated on the alignment of NY 22 to Amenia, where it shifted northeast into Sharon, Connecticut to use old New England Route 4 through Massachusetts and Vermont all the way to the Canadian border. Apparently New York State did not approve this plan, and by mid-1927 the official route log published by AASHO (now known as AASHTO) had been amended so that the southern end of US 7 began in Norwalk, Connecticut instead.[29]

New York didn't like that idea though, for who knows what reason.

[roadman65]

Interesting on that one. I always new that New York did not want them despite not many of them being there.  Then of course the lack of any US routes on Long Island where you would think that US 22 and US 46 would have gone beyond their eastern terminuses. Also the fact that US 106 never entered New York despite NY 52 connected it back to its parent, and the mere fact NY 17 never was part of the US system as it always was a major artery long before I-86 and the freeway upgrades its whole length from Harriman to the PA Line.

[motorway]

Sorry, it's a bit off topic from the main thrust of the thread, but following along with what roadman65 said above...

I've always found it a bit ironic that Long Island, which by itself has a population greater than that of 37 states, does not have a single 2di interstate or US route. I think that instead of ending in Ridgefield Park, I-80 should continue over the GWB and through the Bronx along with I-95 and then replace I-295 over the Throgs Neck Bridge and into Queens, ultimately taking over the LIE from I-495 (and then the section of LIE west of the Clearview being renumbered as I-180 or some such). I guess it would never matter to most people, of course, but it seems to me that there is something ennobling (heh, we roadgeeks...) about being served by a 2di interstate.

[Zeffy]

Interesting on that one. I always new that New York did not want them despite not many of them being there.  Then of course the lack of any US routes on Long Island where you would think that US 22 and US 46 would have gone beyond their eastern terminuses.

I'm quite shocked that US 46 hasn't been targeted for a decommissioning yet. No one would notice if it quietly became NJ 46, because the number wouldn't have changed and that's all New Jerseyans seem to care about anyway.

[cl94]

Sorry, it's a bit off topic from the main thrust of the thread, but following along with what roadman65 said above...

I've always found it a bit ironic that Long Island, which by itself has a population greater than that of 37 states, does not have a single 2di interstate or US route. I think that instead of ending in Ridgefield Park, I-80 should continue over the GWB and through the Bronx along with I-95 and then replace I-295 over the Throgs Neck Bridge and into Queens, ultimately taking over the LIE from I-495 (and then the section of LIE west of the Clearview being renumbered as I-180 or some such). I guess it would never matter to most people, of course, but it seems to me that there is something ennobling (heh, we roadgeeks...) about being served by a 2di interstate.

It was supposed to. I-78 would have gone to the Clearview (on the geographical island), I-91 would have used the William Floyd Parkway

[I94RoadRunner]

New York really doesn't like US highways and never has. US 15 was already dropped internally several years ago, the new signs as far as NYSDOT is concerned show the correct number.

I guess you have a point. I was born in western NY and after reading on the history of some of the numbers, I would tend to agree that NY is not US route friendly .....

Let's see...7, 15, 104, and 309 are gone entirely, 219 will likely be biting the dust (at least partially) if it ever is 100% limited access north of I-86...yep. Ever notice how often signs downgrade the remaining 16 (signed) routes to NY routes?

Not true on US 219 unless NYDOT turns it into a state highway. The interchange between I-86 and the US 219 freeway is not going to be constructed as a freeway to freeway interchange but rather a diamond interchange.

[cl94]

New York really doesn't like US highways and never has. US 15 was already dropped internally several years ago, the new signs as far as NYSDOT is concerned show the correct number.

I guess you have a point. I was born in western NY and after reading on the history of some of the numbers, I would tend to agree that NY is not US route friendly .....

Let's see...7, 15, 104, and 309 are gone entirely, 219 will likely be biting the dust (at least partially) if it ever is 100% limited access north of I-86...yep. Ever notice how often signs downgrade the remaining 16 (signed) routes to NY routes?

Not true on US 219 unless NYDOT turns it into a state highway. The interchange between I-86 and the US 219 freeway is not going to be constructed as a freeway to freeway interchange but rather a diamond interchange.

How old are those plans? By the time it gets completed (if ever), I could picture them doing anything possible to get an Interstate designation (and thus more money).

[I94RoadRunner]

Recent. The proposed diamond is what the Seneca tribe and NYDOT agreed on in order to get the highway built. I started a thread on this back in April: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12112.0