Latest article about dangerous cities

[roadman65]

I know we had a similar thread about this months ago, but rather than reopen a previous thread and get attacked by moderators for necro posting and violating rules of posting in dead threads, I would create another one.  Unlike the previous, this latest articles have updated some and added a few more cities to the list that some may find surprising.

Both Chester, PA and Newburgh, NY have now been added to the top ten list of high crime cities that were not there before, or at least from the sources of before.
http://www.answers.com/article/1191042/top-10-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us?paramt=null&param4=fb-us-de-lifestyle&param1=everydaylife&param2=14663211&param5=10152155151086186&param6=14767571#slide=1

Michigan seems to have a lot with Detroit, Saginaw, and I believe Flint made it to the listing as well.

[Zeffy]

When there is great poverty amongst the residents of a city, there will be great crime. One of the biggest challenges for the youth of cities like these is keeping them well educated and providing them with something to do when they aren't in school, and keeping them off the streets.

[hbelkins]

Why would there be a big crime rate in Newburgh?

[roadman65]

Why would there be a big crime rate in Newburgh?

That one is most surprising to me too.

[Zeffy]

Why would there be a big crime rate in Newburgh?

These kind of numbers with only 30k people is a bit of an alarm:

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/newburgh/crime/#data

However, the crime looks to be concentrated heavily in an area rather than widespread as you can see from looking at the map.

[Pete from Boston]

Why would there be a big crime rate in Newburgh?

That one is most surprising to me too.

I'm not surprised at all.  Have you ever been to Newburgh?  It makes Poughkeepsie look good.

I remember one particularly heartbreaking drive through Newburgh on the second day of that particular month, seeing pile after pile of personal belongings out on the curb from evictions from the 1st.  Not unusual in a lot of places, but not places you want to have a lot in common with.

Newburgh is in rough shape.  Has been for a long time.

[roadman65]

Why would there be a big crime rate in Newburgh?

That one is most surprising to me too.

I'm not surprised at all.  Have you ever been to Newburgh?  It makes Poughkeepsie look good.

I remember one particularly heartbreaking drive through Newburgh on the second day of that particular month, seeing pile after pile of personal belongings out on the curb from evictions from the 1st.  Not unusual in a lot of places, but not places you want to have a lot in common with.

Newburgh is in rough shape.  Has been for a long time.

I have not been there since 03 when I used US 9W to clinch. It did not look bad from that standpoint, but you cannot judge a book by its outside cover so the cliche goes.

[Pete from Boston]

Why would there be a big crime rate in Newburgh?

That one is most surprising to me too.

I'm not surprised at all.  Have you ever been to Newburgh?  It makes Poughkeepsie look good.

I remember one particularly heartbreaking drive through Newburgh on the second day of that particular month, seeing pile after pile of personal belongings out on the curb from evictions from the 1st.  Not unusual in a lot of places, but not places you want to have a lot in common with.

Newburgh is in rough shape.  Has been for a long time.

I have not been there since 03 when I used US 9W to clinch. It did not look bad from that standpoint, but you cannot judge a book by its outside cover so the cliche goes.

It was very bad in '03, but depending on a lot of factors (route, time of day, etc.) you could miss the severity of it, I suppose.

[Laura]

1. Chester, PA
2. East St. Louis, IL
3. Bessemer, AL
4. Newburgh, NY
5. Detroit, MI
6. Saginaw, MI
7. Flint, MI
8. Oakland, CA
9. West Memphis, AR
10. Camden, NJ

Holy crap, Baltimore isn't in this list. This may be the first time that has ever happened.

[mrsman]

1. Chester, PA
2. East St. Louis, IL
3. Bessemer, AL
4. Newburgh, NY
5. Detroit, MI
6. Saginaw, MI
7. Flint, MI
8. Oakland, CA
9. West Memphis, AR
10. Camden, NJ

Holy crap, Baltimore isn't in this list. This may be the first time that has ever happened.

Many of these cities are "second cities" in their respective areas.  Take Philadelphia for instance.  There are some really bad parts of town.  But that is countered by the fact that there are a lot of good jobs in Downtown and some really nice areas within city limits as well.  But for some of the poorer suburbs, all they have are the blighted areas (Chester, Camden) so they have no good areas to offset the crime rate.

Many of these second cities are  listed above (East St Louis, West Memphis, Oakland) and there are some others that probably should be on the list as well:  Newark, Gary, Compton.

[Pete from Boston]

East St. Louis, Flint, Gary, Camden, Newark, Detroit, and some other all-stars are perennial contenders for lists like this. What's amazing is that the crime rates maintain such a high level even as most of these cities undergo continual severe population loss. There is an ever-shrinking pool of people committing crimes at a sustained rate on an ever-shrinking pool of victims.

[algorerhythms]

It's not all that surprising. All the people who have the means to leave do. That leaves the people who either don't have the means to leave (mostly the victims), or the people who gain from staying in these places (the criminals).

[mtantillo]

1. Chester, PA
2. East St. Louis, IL
3. Bessemer, AL
4. Newburgh, NY
5. Detroit, MI
6. Saginaw, MI
7. Flint, MI
8. Oakland, CA
9. West Memphis, AR
10. Camden, NJ

Holy crap, Baltimore isn't in this list. This may be the first time that has ever happened.

Baltimore is getting better and better, just like DC was 10 years ago. "It's not your mom's Baltimore"!!

As for Newburgh, I'm not surprised one bit. It was awful 40 years ago according to my dad.

[Laura]

1. Chester, PA
2. East St. Louis, IL
3. Bessemer, AL
4. Newburgh, NY
5. Detroit, MI
6. Saginaw, MI
7. Flint, MI
8. Oakland, CA
9. West Memphis, AR
10. Camden, NJ

Holy crap, Baltimore isn't in this list. This may be the first time that has ever happened.

Baltimore is getting better and better, just like DC was 10 years ago. "It's not your mom's Baltimore"!!

As for Newburgh, I'm not surprised one bit. It was awful 40 years ago according to my dad.

Ain't that the truth! My mom still doesn't understand why I want to move back into the city proper or why I enjoyed living there to begin with. Her generation grew up on the suburban ideal and that the city was "dangerous" and to be avoided.


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