Minor things that please you

[kphoger]

I must admit, I do not understand the depths to which Trekkies fall into the rabbit hole.

It is easier to immerse yourself in a fictional world when it is self-consistent.

I do not understand the extent to which Trekkies want to immerse themselves in a fictional world.

[Max Rockatansky]

I must admit, I do not understand the depths to which Trekkies fall into the rabbit hole.

It is easier to immerse yourself in a fictional world when it is self-consistent.

Or it just makes the bar of entry so insurmountably high that it is entirely unapproachable for anyone new to the series.

[Scott5114]

I must admit, I do not understand the depths to which Trekkies fall into the rabbit hole.

It is easier to immerse yourself in a fictional world when it is self-consistent.

Or it just makes the bar of entry so insurmountably high that it is entirely unapproachable for anyone new to the series.

Not everything is for everyone.

I do not understand the extent to which Trekkies want to immerse themselves in a fictional world.

You don't understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in a world with lots of different types of people with wildly different backgrounds overcoming differences together; where resources are so plentiful that not only does everyone have everything they need, there is no such thing as money; where anyone can choose what to do with their life regardless of whether it's profitable or not; where decisions are made using data and science rather who it will benefit? That sort of world doesn't seem like a thing that someone might want to immerse themselves in? Like I said, not everything is for everybody, but I would think the appeal of the Star Trek universe wouldn't be hard to understand, at least.

[kphoger]

I do not understand the extent to which Trekkies want to immerse themselves in a fictional world.

You don't understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in a world with ...

Oh, I understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in such a world.  What I don't understand is the extent to which Trekkies, specifically, want to do so.  It really is next-level.

[vdeane]

I must admit, I do not understand the depths to which Trekkies fall into the rabbit hole.

It is easier to immerse yourself in a fictional world when it is self-consistent.

Or it just makes the bar of entry so insurmountably high that it is entirely unapproachable for anyone new to the series.

Of all the shows, Star Trek: Lower Decks is the one that's most reliant on lore from the other shows (since half the jokes are just references), and yet people still manage to enjoy it without having seen other Star Trek.  If even Lower Decks is accessible to new fans, I think it's safe to say that the rest is too.

Although it seems like these days a lot of people feel the need to start at the very beginning and watch each and every episode in order.  That's a lot.  Especially since it's probably easier to get into TOS these days by watching the other stuff first and then going back to see how it all began rather than the other way around.  The stories may be classic, but the acting style and pacing is definitely from the 60s and that makes it harder to get into if you're used to more modern shows.

[formulanone]

I do not understand the extent to which Trekkies want to immerse themselves in a fictional world.

You don't understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in a world with ...

Oh, I understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in such a world.  What I don't understand is the extent to which Trekkies, specifically, want to do so.  It really is next-level.

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks, despite background whispers that one is "mainstream" or "normie" because you can put something down and move onto other purposes in life. It's great that there's a lot of information on most any subject but it's also a major spoiler to the thrill of discovery and the amount of backchatting overwhelms the process of accomplishment.

I wonder if Star Trek was really one of the first Tv shows to become dissected, reimagined, calculated, (and so forth) even before the days of the Internet and therefore was one of the first to be endlessly discussed online.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have approximately 250,000 photos to sort through which nobody may ever care to see...

[GaryV]

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks

You mean, like, roadgeekery?   

[kkt]

I do not understand the extent to which Trekkies want to immerse themselves in a fictional world.

You don't understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in a world with ...

Oh, I understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in such a world.  What I don't understand is the extent to which Trekkies, specifically, want to do so.  It really is next-level.

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks, despite background whispers that one is "mainstream" or "normie" because you can put something down and move onto other purposes in life. It's great that there's a lot of information on most any subject but it's also a major spoiler to the thrill of discovery and the amount of backchatting overwhelms the process of accomplishment.

I wonder if Star Trek was really one of the first Tv shows to become dissected, reimagined, calculated, (and so forth) even before the days of the Internet and therefore was one of the first to be endlessly discussed online.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have approximately 250,000 photos to sort through which nobody may ever care to see...

Hm.  The Twilight Zone had a lot of fans dissecting every episode, but pre-Internet it was hard for their fans to find enough kindred spirits of have a discussion.

[Max Rockatansky]

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks

You mean, like, roadgeekery?   

Not that I'm dismissing this argument but I tend to be of the opinion that immersive fictional worlds are different than hobbies you can interact with in the real world.

[Molandfreak]

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks

You mean, like, roadgeekery?   

Not that I'm dismissing this argument but I tend to be of the opinion that immersive fictional worlds are different than hobbies you can interact with in the real world.

Tell that to Fritz.

[Max Rockatansky]

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks

You mean, like, roadgeekery?   

Not that I'm dismissing this argument but I tend to be of the opinion that immersive fictional worlds are different than hobbies you can interact with in the real world.

Tell that to Fritz.

I have.  Fritz is playing is a very different game than I when it comes to stuff with roads.

[SEWIGuy]

I do not understand the extent to which Trekkies want to immerse themselves in a fictional world.

You don't understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in a world with ...

Oh, I understand why someone would want to immerse themselves in such a world.  What I don't understand is the extent to which Trekkies, specifically, want to do so.  It really is next-level.

It's also totally okay with enjoying a body of work without caring what anyone else on the internet thinks, despite background whispers that one is "mainstream" or "normie" because you can put something down and move onto other purposes in life. It's great that there's a lot of information on most any subject but it's also a major spoiler to the thrill of discovery and the amount of backchatting overwhelms the process of accomplishment.

I wonder if Star Trek was really one of the first Tv shows to become dissected, reimagined, calculated, (and so forth) even before the days of the Internet and therefore was one of the first to be endlessly discussed online.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have approximately 250,000 photos to sort through which nobody may ever care to see...

I wonder if it is because TNG, DS9 and Voyager all came out around the time the internet first became a thing. I remember getting into some heated discussions about Voyager on usenet back in the day.

[Max Rockatansky]

TNG was the series I watched the most of.  No doubt being a kid that didn't really the autonomy to do much but watch TV played a huge part in that.

[formulanone]

TNG was the series I watched the most of.  No doubt being a kid that didn't really the autonomy to do much but watch TV played a huge part in that.

Yeah me too, thought it was very approachable and calm even though I'd only watched a handful of the original series' episodes as a kid. Even though Picard was a standout character in terms of acting, the entire supporting cast and scripting felt quite cohesive despite watching random episodes out of order.