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Started by bassoon1986, November 19, 2012, 01:27:00 PM

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bassoon1986

The "Two of the same exit" thread made me think of one of these from my hometown. This isn't a suffix that is damaged or missing from a sign, or one that is wrong or replaced wrong, or one that isn't present in both directions. What examples are there of a letter suffix that just isn't there?

In Shreveport, LA there is an exit 18A, 18C, and 18D. No B. I'm not sure if there was ever a B and it got tweaked with I-49 becoming present in the 90's. I know that Linwood Ave used to turn into Allen ave, but it got moved over a couple of blocks with I-49 coming into the mix. I still think the Lakeshore/Linwood exits were always 17 something. The 18's are just missing a letter:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Shreveport,+LA&hl=en&ll=32.503917,-93.750179&spn=0.014622,0.012767&sll=39.105396,-94.592924&sspn=0.003397,0.003203&oq=shreveport&gl=us&hnear=Shreveport,+Caddo,+Louisiana&t=m&z=16


In Baton Rouge, the exits go from 1A to 1J, but I know they're all present. Kansas City has the Downtown Loop #2 exits...can anyone vouch for those? I saw on Google maps up to 2Y, but I wasn't sure if there was one missing or not.


deathtopumpkins

Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 19, 2012, 01:27:00 PMKansas City has the Downtown Loop #2 exits...can anyone vouch for those? I saw on Google maps up to 2Y, but I wasn't sure if there was one missing or not.

IIRC they skip several letters that can be confused with numbers, e.g. I (1) and O (0).
According to Wikipedia every letter but I, O, and Z is used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_freeway_loop
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Alps

Do I get to count I-95 in NJ having Exits 15E, W, and X? There's a whole bunch missing there (:
Also, I-95 NY has had for many years an abnormality where Manhattan exits were sequential (1, 2, 3, with 3 being the Highbridge/I-87 interchange), but then coming from the other direction, Bronx exits were still mile-based (one of the only cases in NY), leading to I-87 still being signed as 1C from that direction without there being a 1B or 1A any more. I haven't paid attention to see if that's been corrected yet.

Roadsguy

Quote from: Steve on November 19, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
Do I get to count I-95 in NJ having Exits 15E, W, and X? There's a whole bunch missing there (:

Can you not see the X, or were you being sarcastic? ;)
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Alps

Quote from: Roadsguy on November 19, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Quote from: Steve on November 19, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
Do I get to count I-95 in NJ having Exits 15E, W, and X? There's a whole bunch missing there (:

Can you not see the X, or were you being sarcastic? ;)
I don't understand your reply. Reread my statement.

roadman65

I-4 in Downtown Orlando has an Exit 83A but no other letters.  There was once an Exit 83B when the defunct Robinson Street EB ramp was Exit 83A.  The current Exit 83A (for Amelia Street) was Exit 83B and changed when the Robinson Exit was removed.

Also the Westbound South Street ramp was Exit 83.  Since the new Amway Center was opened, the South Street ramp never reopened and a jersey barrier blocks the left side exit with the signs removed.

Eastbound I-4 has a missing Exit 81A as it is only a westbound exit for Michigan Street.  The eastbound exit on I-4 for Kaley Street has two suffixes as it is Exit 81BC because westbound there are two separate exits for Kaley Street that have 81C for WB Kaley and 81B for EB Kaley.

Also EB I-4 at FL 482 it is Exit 74A.  There is no Exit 74B going that way as it only a westbound exit for Universal Studios. 
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Scott5114

I-35 in OKC has a double: S.E. 15th Street is 125B northbound, 125D southbound, and there are no other 125s.

I-444 once had exits 94A—D and 96A—C. All of the 96s were done away with, and the 94s lost their 94-ness, leaving them as just exits A, B, C, and D. Later on these were killed off too, leaving unnumbered exits. Except for one lone 94D sign that inexplicably stayed around for years. So for a period of time, not only was there a 94D with no 94A—C, there was also no 1—93 nor 95+.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on November 19, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 19, 2012, 01:27:00 PMKansas City has the Downtown Loop #2 exits...can anyone vouch for those? I saw on Google maps up to 2Y, but I wasn't sure if there was one missing or not.

IIRC they skip several letters that can be confused with numbers, e.g. I (1) and O (0).
According to Wikipedia every letter but I, O, and Z is used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_freeway_loop

Depending on the 'B' font, sometimes that can be confusing.  The one that makes me think of this is Exit 4B on I-95 in Delaware. I don't know if it's the spacing or what, but it really look closely like Exit 48, not Exit 4B.


Takumi

I-95/64 in Richmond has only 76A (Chamberlayne Avenue) northbound and 76B (Belvidere Street) southbound. Both are US 1/301.
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formulanone

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Florida's old/former exit numbers accounted for exits in between, so a new exit between exits 36 and 37 might be called "Exit 36C". So there were many exits without a "B". I suppose if opposing directional exits were created, they wouldn't have to re-suffix/re-number the following exits.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 20, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
Depending on the 'B' font, sometimes that can be confusing.  The one that makes me think of this is Exit 4B on I-95 in Delaware. I don't know if it's the spacing or what, but it really look closely like Exit 48, not Exit 4B.

The Berkshire Connector (I-90) in New York has prefixed exits, with "B" on the mile markers and exit signs, which did confuse me a little in the dimming sunlight. B1 looked like 81.

akotchi

In the Chesapeake, VA, area, where I-464 south transitions into Va 168 south, there is a southbound Exit 15B to U.S. 17, but no 15A.  Northbound does have both exit numbers.
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I-474 in Peoria has an exit 3A, but no 3B. This is because the interchange is only half of a cloverleaf that was originally supposed to be full.
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cjk374

Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 19, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
The "Two of the same exit" thread made me think of one of these from my hometown. This isn't a suffix that is damaged or missing from a sign, or one that is wrong or replaced wrong, or one that isn't present in both directions. What examples are there of a letter suffix that just isn't there?

In Shreveport, LA there is an exit 18A, 18C, and 18D. No B. I'm not sure if there was ever a B and it got tweaked with I-49 becoming present in the 90's. I know that Linwood Ave used to turn into Allen ave, but it got moved over a couple of blocks with I-49 coming into the mix. I still think the Lakeshore/Linwood exits were always 17 something. The 18's are just missing a letter:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Shreveport,+LA&hl=en&ll=32.503917,-93.750179&spn=0.014622,0.012767&sll=39.105396,-94.592924&sspn=0.003397,0.003203&oq=shreveport&gl=us&hnear=Shreveport,+Caddo,+Louisiana&t=m&z=16

I can't really remember any exit 18B being in existence, but it leads to this question:  Is this a case where 18B was only on one side of I-20?  Just down the interstate on the east bound side, exit 20C (US 71 SOUTH/S'port Barksdale Hwy) doesn't exist on the west bound side.  You would have to use exit 21 (LA 72/Old Minden Rd.) and follow the TO SOUTH US 71 signs to get there.  Maybe 18B was the same way, & perhaps it was eliminated when I-49 came to town?  I also remember when 19A (US 71 NORTH/LA1/ Spring St./Market St.) was a left sided exit, but then it was relocated to the right side & elevated.  I can't remember if that was done before or because of I-49.   :hmmm:
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jeffandnicole

Route 42 in NJ:

Northbound: Exit 7, 7B, 9A, 9B, 12, 14

Southbound: Exit 7, 7B, 8, 10A, 10B, 12, 13, 14

Notes:

There is no exit number for the AC Expressway.

Until about 2 years ago, there was no Exit 7B.  When that interchange was built, Exit 7's number was never modified.

Exit 9B (NB) and Exit 10A (SB) are for the same roadway!  9B directs you to NJ 168 North; Exit 10A directs you to 168 South.  168 crosses underneath Rt. 42 at MP 10.0.

Exit 12 NB puts you on NJ 41. Exit 12 SB puts you on Rt. 544, about a 1/2 mile to the north of NJ 41.


jp the roadgeek

CT 2 WB goes from 5D to 5A to 4 with entrance ramps in between that are from partial exits 5B and 5C.  No such gap in letters exists EB.
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I-8 WB in San Diego:  Greenfield Drive is exit 20B, Main Street is Exit 20, yet EB there is no Main Street Exit, and Greenfield is exit 20, so no 20A

roadman65

Quote from: formulanone on November 20, 2012, 12:27:15 PM
Florida's old/former exit numbers accounted for exits in between, so a new exit between exits 36 and 37 might be called "Exit 36C". So there were many exits without a "B". I suppose if opposing directional exits were created, they wouldn't have to re-suffix/re-number the following exits.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 20, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
Depending on the 'B' font, sometimes that can be confusing.  The one that makes me think of this is Exit 4B on I-95 in Delaware. I don't know if it's the spacing or what, but it really look closely like Exit 48, not Exit 4B.

The Berkshire Connector (I-90) in New York has prefixed exits, with "B" on the mile markers and exit signs, which did confuse me a little in the dimming sunlight. B1 looked like 81.
The old exit number for Palm Coast on I-95 in Flagler County was Exit 91C because it was between Exits 91 & 92.  I am guessing that two more interchanges were to be added somewhere, or they had plans to make the FL 100 a cloverleaf at one time to leave out A & B.

An really unusual one was Exit 51 A on I-4 that was for CR 46A.  It was between Exits 50 & 51 and should have been Exit 50A.  Then the double suffixed Saxton Boulevard interchange in Deltona that was Exits 53CA & CB was most unusual as it could have been just Exit 53 C & D or even Exits 53A & B and left Dirkson Drive as Exit 53. 
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