YIELD 15 MPH Assemblies at Roundabout

[Brian556]

This is in Flower Mound, Texas, and was done by a contractor. It is at Dixon Ln & Chinn Chapel Rd

[lordsutch]

Pretty sure you're not supposed to put advisory speed signs underneath anything other than a W-series sign.

Looks nice otherwise though.

[DaBigE]

Put it with the Roundabout Ahead sign or the Yield Ahead sign (if there is one)...NOT with the Yield sign.   Looks like they completely forgot the street name signs.

[Brian556]

There are also 15MPH signs under the roundabout ahead signs. There are no Yield Ahead Signs. To me they shouldn't be necessary, since you always yield at a roundabout, and therefore, the roundabout ahead signs provide adequate warning.

[DaBigE]

There are no Yield Ahead Signs. To me they shouldn't be necessary, since you always yield at a roundabout, and therefore, the roundabout ahead signs provide adequate warning.

I've been preaching the same thing for years and WisDOT finally listened [kinda]. For Wisconsin roundabouts, Yield Ahead signs are now optional for approaches with speeds <45mph, where sight distance on the approach is not limited. IMO, placing a Yield Ahead sign and a Roundabout Ahead sign is utterly redundant...one or the other, not both.

How often do you see a different advanced intersection warning sign and an advanced intersection control sign placed on the same approach for the same intersection? Very rarely, if ever (I don't recall having seen such an instance besides for a roundabout).

[Zeffy]

So... I'm supposed to yield at 15 MPH? I don't think we need any guidance on how fast to yield, mainly because they teach you this stuff in drivers ed.

[Roadrunner75]

There are no Yield Ahead Signs. To me they shouldn't be necessary, since you always yield at a roundabout, and therefore, the roundabout ahead signs provide adequate warning.

Maybe in Texas, but if you sent some NJ drivers through that roundabout they would probably just barrel right through it without slowing down.  We have a long history of traffic circles, with most of that history devoid of any kind of clear direction on who should yield.  Often the busiest highway through the circle gets the right-of-way by default.  Sometimes you yield if you're already in the circle.  Sometimes you don't.  Learning to drive in NJ taught me that circles (and by extension these new fangled little circles they call roundabouts) are free-for-alls.  In recent years NJ has been adding yield signs or markings in circles, but it's not consistent and often follows the established traffic patterns.  I commute through a circle twice a day where I don't even slow down below 40mph as I charge through it.  Roundabouts are starting to pop up around here, and I think most people are just kind of sick of this form of traffic control. 

Local note:  The NJDOT engineers who thought it was OK to maintain the circle at 33/34 with a few added yield signs need to be fired immediately.

[Zeffy]

Local note:  The NJDOT engineers who thought it was OK to maintain the circle at 33/34 with a few added yield signs need to be fired immediately.

Have you seen the Somerville Circle? That is an intersection that needs some fixing ASAP! Who sticks a STOP sign inside of a traffic circle? Oh wait, NJDOT does. And yes, circles are free-for-alls - the Flemington Circle I always am cautious about the person on the other side of me NOT yielding when I have the right-of-way going north on US 202.

[cl94]

Local note:  The NJDOT engineers who thought it was OK to maintain the circle at 33/34 with a few added yield signs need to be fired immediately.

Have you seen the Somerville Circle? That is an intersection that needs some fixing ASAP! Who sticks a STOP sign inside of a traffic circle? Oh wait, NJDOT does. And yes, circles are free-for-alls - the Flemington Circle I always am cautious about the person on the other side of me NOT yielding when I have the right-of-way going north on US 202.

And then you get the countless circles where the major road cuts though the center (US 1, anyone?). Confusing as heck if you're going to/from the side road.

[Roadrunner75]

Local note:  The NJDOT engineers who thought it was OK to maintain the circle at 33/34 with a few added yield signs need to be fired immediately.

Have you seen the Somerville Circle? That is an intersection that needs some fixing ASAP! Who sticks a STOP sign inside of a traffic circle? Oh wait, NJDOT does. And yes, circles are free-for-alls - the Flemington Circle I always am cautious about the person on the other side of me NOT yielding when I have the right-of-way going north on US 202.

And then you get the countless circles where the major road cuts though the center (US 1, anyone?). Confusing as heck if you're going to/from the side road.

They did a great job fixing one of these at 70/73 in Marlton.  I use 70 often enough, and it's night and day with the new overpass for 73.

This one on 38 in Cherry Hill comes to mind, although not nearly as bad as 70/73, as the side roads are well, side roads in comparison.  However, I'm sure someone who crosses through here every day will beg to differ.
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.94056,-75.009131&spn=0.002036,0.002615&t=h&z=19

[odditude]

Local note:  The NJDOT engineers who thought it was OK to maintain the circle at 33/34 with a few added yield signs need to be fired immediately.

Have you seen the Somerville Circle? That is an intersection that needs some fixing ASAP! Who sticks a STOP sign inside of a traffic circle? Oh wait, NJDOT does. And yes, circles are free-for-alls - the Flemington Circle I always am cautious about the person on the other side of me NOT yielding when I have the right-of-way going north on US 202.

And then you get the countless circles where the major road cuts though the center (US 1, anyone?). Confusing as heck if you're going to/from the side road.

They did a great job fixing one of these at 70/73 in Marlton.  I use 70 often enough, and it's night and day with the new overpass for 73.

This one on 38 in Cherry Hill comes to mind, although not nearly as bad as 70/73, as the side roads are well, side roads in comparison.  However, I'm sure someone who crosses through here every day will beg to differ.
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.94056,-75.009131&spn=0.002036,0.002615&t=h&z=19

i used to live right by there. other than traffic backing up on Church Rd during rush hour, it's no problem.