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State (or equivalent) routes with two unrelated freeway segments

Started by hotdogPi, September 12, 2020, 09:02:42 AM

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Quote from: Thing 342 on September 13, 2020, 01:19:28 PM
Would post NC-87 were it not for NCDOT's annoying habit of marking new bypasses as labeled routes and having the mainline run through town (which is the primary reason I haven't clinched US-17 yet).
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on September 13, 2020, 04:56:28 PM
Doesn't NCDOT sign the through town route as Business and the bypass as Bypass? At least that was what I read a long time ago. In that case there would seem to be breaks in the route, except the Bypass is also the mainline.
Quote from: US 89 on September 13, 2020, 06:05:27 PM
What he's saying is that the official mainline route runs along what is marked as "business".

NC-87 was the first that popped into my mind for this thread, but my mapper incorrectly showed the Fayetteville segment as part of US-401.  The MLK Freeway multiplex is correct north of Robeson Road, but the southern segment is solely NC-87 past the I-95 interchange.  Wow, has Fayetteville changed since I had railroad projects there in the mid-1980s.

For the record, I think that the NC-87 Bypass in Sanford meets the OP's original intent of this thread. 


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What about TX-35?

It has a short freeway segment in Alvin which was planned to become part of a larger freeway and it's also a freeway down in Rockport.
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What about CA-90?
One freeway segment near the coast and intersecting I-405 and the other segment in the hills near CA-91.

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I saw Ohio 2 brought up, but not Ohio 4 or Ohio 7.  Ohio 4 has the freeway section on the east side of Dayton and the other on the west side of Springfield.  Ohio 7 has a freeway section at its very south end near Huntington, WV, and another near Steubenville--possibly a third near Wheeling?
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Kentucky has no entrants in this event. The only state routes with full freeway segments are KY 4 (New Circle Road) which is the beltway around downtown Lexington, and KY 841, which is co-signed with I-265 its entire length but has standalone segments between US 31W/US 60 and I-65, and between I-71 and the Ohio River bridge.

A short segment of KY 15 near Hazard will become free-flowing when construction is finished next year on a widening project, but it probably won't be reflected on maps as a freeway. There will be a couple of RIROs on the segment, and even if those count, there's no other freeway segments along KY 15.

None of the four-lane portions of KY 80 are freeway, save the concurrency with US 23/119/460 in the Pikeville Cut-Thru.
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Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 14, 2020, 11:45:18 AM
I saw Ohio 2 brought up, but not Ohio 4 or Ohio 7.  Ohio 4 has the freeway section on the east side of Dayton and the other on the west side of Springfield.  Ohio 7 has a freeway section at its very south end near Huntington, WV, and another near Steubenville--possibly a third near Wheeling?

It does. I almost said Belpre too, but then I realized it was concurrent with US-50/OH-32
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OR 22 comes the closest for Oregon.
It has a freeway/expressway section from OR 99W in Rickreal to downtown Salem, then another full freeway segment from I-5 to Stayton/Sublimity.
OR 18 may qualify in the future (and OR 22 can technically claim a third segment with its overlap on OR 18).

It is incredibly difficult to tell for West Bengal because maps don't distinguish what would be freeway segments from the expressways, but the examples I can think of (AH 1, 2 45, 46, and NH 12, 16, 19, 27, 45) would likely fall under the US routes inclusion exception.

ari-s-drives

CA 33 is concurrent with I-5 from Cantua Creek to Coalinga, and has an unrelated freeway segment through Ventura.

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Quote from: ari-s-drives on September 14, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
CA 33 is concurrent with I-5 from Cantua Creek to Coalinga, and has an unrelated freeway segment through Ventura.

Concurrent with CA 152 west of I-5 too.  While that segment is mostly an expressway it does have a fully limited access exit at Santa Nella Road.

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Quote from: sprjus4 on September 13, 2020, 02:38:27 AM
VA-168 in the Hampton Roads area.

The route is a full freeway between 2 miles north of the North Carolina state line and I-64, with an additional 1940s freeway segment through Ocean View in Norfolk. VA-168 runs on city streets otherwise, with the portion between I-64 and Downtown Norfolk paralleled by I-464, and the portion between Norview and Ocean View paralleled by I-64, except that short stretch through Ocean View which is technically freeway grade.
It also used to be on a large chunk of I-64 north of Hampton Roads, until about 1980. It used to follow what's now VA 143 up from Newport News through Williamsburg, then followed VA 30 into New Kent County. As I-64 was built between Hampton and Williamsburg it either paralleled or was built right on top of 168.

You could also make a case for VA 337. It follows I-464 and 264 for a bit, and its very eastern end transitions into I-564.
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Quote from: froggie on September 13, 2020, 04:03:09 PM
Minnesota also has a triple-example along MN 55: a short segment southeast of downtown Minneapolis (to 26th St), near Fort Snelling and across the Mendota Bridge (technically goes from the MN 62 West interchange to MN 13), and MN 3 to US 52.  One could argue the latter two are a "gap", but neither are directly related to the first segment.

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Depending on how long a section you're willing to count as being a "freeway segment," VA-286 might qualify. There's a roughly two-mile freeway segment from Newington up to the interchange with Rolling Road and VA-289 (the interchange has traffic lights and so breaks the freeway), and further north there's a roughly 4.6-mile freeway segment from just north of the light at Popes Head Road up to the interchange with US-50 (which also has lights). The intersection at Popes Head Road is supposed to be converted to an interchange in the future, which would extend the freeway segment south a very short distance. Some people might consider a short segment to the west of the Rolling Road interchange a short "freeway" segment, but it's interrupted by one at-grade intersection with Hooes Road, so I don't count it.
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Eth

I don't think there's anything in Georgia that truly qualifies here.

GA 10 is probably the closest to being able to make the claim, but it requires being very, very liberal with the definition of "freeway". But I suppose you can argue that the portion of John Lewis Freedom Parkway between Boulevard and Ralph McGill counts (it's about a mile long with a single half-interchange). Then most of the freeway portion in Stone Mountain is also part of US 78, but there's one additional interchange after they split to the west.

That's a C-minus example at best, but I think it's the best I can do here.

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Quote from: 1995hoo on September 15, 2020, 08:21:42 AM
Depending on how long a section you're willing to count as being a "freeway segment," VA-286 might qualify. There's a roughly two-mile freeway segment from Newington up to the interchange with Rolling Road and VA-289 (the interchange has traffic lights and so breaks the freeway), and further north there's a roughly 4.6-mile freeway segment from just north of the light at Popes Head Road up to the interchange with US-50 (which also has lights). The intersection at Popes Head Road is supposed to be converted to an interchange in the future, which would extend the freeway segment south a very short distance. Some people might consider a short segment to the west of the Rolling Road interchange a short "freeway" segment, but it's interrupted by one at-grade intersection with Hooes Road, so I don't count it.

Similarly, the upgraded VA-28 (Sully Road) might qualify on a technicality.  All of the intersections north of US-29 in Centreville have been upgraded to interchanges, except just north of I-66 (Walney Road and the RIRO for Elleanor Lawrence Park.  Properties along the northern end of VA-28 are subject to a Special Tax District that has funded improvements along the corridor since 1989.  I'm pretty sure that other highway funds were used for improvements at I-66 and US-29 in Centreville.  If so, the two segments are "unrelated" under a different definition (until that short stretch becomes fully limited access).  To be fair, it's all on the same section of highway so the OP couldn't/wouldn't/shouldn't agree.

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Quote from: Eth on September 15, 2020, 09:37:12 AM
GA 10 is probably the closest to being able to make the claim, but it requires being very, very liberal with the definition of "freeway". But I suppose you can argue that the portion of John Lewis Freedom Parkway between Boulevard and Ralph McGill counts (it's about a mile long with a single half-interchange). Then most of the freeway portion in Stone Mountain is also part of US 78, but there's one additional interchange after they split to the west.

Freedom Parkway counts, IMO. In addition to the half-interchange with GA 42 CONN, there are multiple grade separations between Boulevard and Ralph McGill.