RIP Pope Francis

[formulanone]

I was surprised.  Some time back it was discussed on here that Texas car dealers can operate on Saturday or Sunday, but not both.  (I don't know if this is still the case).  I remember commercials for a dealer advertising that they were closed Saturday and open Sunday.  On that day of the week they have a monopoly.  I was surprised to learn that in the olden days, this, not strictly a Sunday restriction, was the rule for non-food items.

It's still the case in Texas. I think the law was amended for dealership principals whom observe the Sabbath on Saturdays (whether out of religious observance, convenience, or competitive purposes).

In New Jersey, they cannot sell motor vehicles on Sundays, though vehicle repair facilities may perform/sell services and parts on both Saturdays and Sundays. So dealerships have to "rope off" the sales departments from customers.

I'm sure there's others but many states do not have such laws; however, most parts and service shops are closed on Sundays even in absence of such laws. You might find it in the larger stores in bigger cities, because the smaller stores can't justify the additional labor along with the offsetting work schedules with low profit-margin half-days. In some smaller towns, the dealers' service and parts departments may be closed all weekend.

[Scott5114]

Only if it's unexpected.  If you hire on for a job that has Easter off unpaid every year, then how is it bad when Easter comes along and you have it off unpaid?  It's part of the work scheduled you hired on for.

Being short hours that you can't make up is always bad. 

How are you short hours for hours you never have anyway under terms of employment from the get-go?

Having your weekly pay be 85.714285714285714286% of what it normally is, for reasons you can't do anything about, is always bad.

(Look, I did real math. Be happy.)

[Max Rockatansky]

Only if it's unexpected.  If you hire on for a job that has Easter off unpaid every year, then how is it bad when Easter comes along and you have it off unpaid?  It's part of the work scheduled you hired on for.

Being short hours that you can't make up is always bad. 

How are you short hours for hours you never have anyway under terms of employment from the get-go?

Having your weekly pay be 85.714285714285714286% of what it normally is, for reasons you can't do anything about, is always bad.

(Look, I did real math. Be happy.)

But that's also assuming every employer who was closed Easter just cut those hours from Sunday workers.  A lot of name brand companies have mandatory minimums for Full Time and Part Time status employees. 

Lowe's for example they have a mandatory minimum of 35 hours for Full Time staff.  Likely that normally scheduled Sunday shift was just moved to another day. 

To be clear, I don't want to defend the likes of Lowe's.  They almost got the entire retail industry in trouble during the Obama Administration when they were assigning employees making 24k as exempt salaried staff.  Nobody is more surprised than me that they did an employee centric move by closing on Easter.

[Scott5114]

If they provide holiday pay or move the shift to a different day to make up the hours, I don't have an issue with that. I've just been in the position of having checks short due to the business being closed due to a holiday, and it sucks.

Although "we take your normal day off and move it to Easter" isn't really much of a holiday.

[Max Rockatansky]

If they provide holiday pay or move the shift to a different day to make up the hours, I don't have an issue with that. I've just been in the position of having checks short due to the business being closed due to a holiday, and it sucks.

Although "we take your normal day off and move it to Easter" isn't really much of a holiday.

On that we agree, but there are many reasons I'm not going back to real world Retail managment any time soon (likely never). 

[kphoger]

I've just been in the position of having checks short due to the business being closed due to a holiday, and it sucks.

And you didn't know ahead of time that that would be the case, to plan accordingly?

[Scott5114]

I've just been in the position of having checks short due to the business being closed due to a holiday, and it sucks.

And you didn't know ahead of time that that would be the case, to plan accordingly?

Plan how? Landlords and utilities don't accept plans as a form of payment, and most people can't pull $100 out of thin air if their employers don't let them work.

[kphoger]

Plan how?

In your budget, put a smaller amount for that paycheck.

Put a few bucks aside each paycheck leading up to it.

I don't know, normal stuff like that?

[Scott5114]

Plan how?

In your budget, put a smaller amount for that paycheck.

Put a few bucks aside each paycheck leading up to it.

I don't know, normal stuff like that?

You assume there are bucks to put aside—the job that happened with was paying me $5.15 an hour.

[kphoger]

You assume there are bucks to put aside—the job that happened with was paying me $5.15 an hour.

My first job paid $5.15 an hour too.  I was hired as a full-time employee, but 'full time' only meant 35-40 hours in that state, which the employer explained up front when I was hired.  I don't think I ever got 40 hours in a week.  But I also wouldn't say I was 'short hours' either, because they were paying me exactly what they said they would.

Similarly, at your $5.15 an hour job, they didn't short you any hours, because they paid you for exactly the hours you hired on to work—unless, perhaps, that day being an unpaid holiday was a spur-of-the-moment decision on their part.

[Scott5114]

"Not enough money" is still "not enough money", no matter what sort of justifications people who like employers come up with to cover for them.

[Bruce]

Jumping in to an earlier discussion: the Pew Research Center recently updated their Religious Landscape Study of the U.S., which had 35,000 respondents.

For the U.S. as a whole, the share of Catholic respondents was 19% in 2023/24 compared to 21% in 2014.

Study also shows a modest gain in unaffiliated folks nationally. In the Seattle area, it's now 44% unaffiliated and 44% Christian.

[JayhawkCO]

For Scott & Kyle, an example that hit hard for me earlier in life. When I was waiting tables, our restaurant was only closed two days a year - Thanksgiving and Christmas. Obviously Thanksgiving is always a Thursday, but Christmas can be any day of the week. I had Friday night regulars who would come in and tip me $100 every week. When Christmas fell on a Friday, I missed out on that cash as well as the tips that I would normally earn on a Friday. I could pick up another shift I wasn't scheduled, but I had Sunday and Monday nights off because they were the slowest, and so I'd be making ~$150-$200 less because of the day of the week that the holiday fell. I'm well aware I could have planned for it ahead of time, but 20's Chris was a little different animal than 30's and 40's Chris.