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Started by Alps, September 17, 2013, 07:00:19 PM

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TheGrassGuy

Quote from: famartin on January 30, 2021, 07:27:28 AM
WandaVision had two decent simulated NJ road scenes, though the exit sign font was off (they got the backplate on the fake route 2 right, though)
(not sure you'll all be able to see this)
https://www.facebook.com/ray.martin/posts/10158857415936605

Not to mention, the last "Exit" sign with the arrow is unnumbered!
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.


TheGrassGuy

#3001
Quote from: famartin on February 06, 2021, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: dgolub on February 06, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 05, 2021, 09:36:45 PM
CR-513 Truck: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6707694,-74.8946552,3a,44.1y,192.55h,78.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skwL0zWzrfOtb6vk7R0P7MA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I'm guessing that it's a sign goof.  The truck route points down some little local street that appears less suited for trucks than the main route.

It's not. They want trucks to avoid Main Street, and I think the low railroad overpass as well.
But wouldn't the Arch St viaduct also be a truck hazard? Maybe? There doesn't seem to be a height limit posted.
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

Roadgeek Adam

High Bridge station has a 12ft 6in clearance bridge right next to it, not to mention 513 goes right through downtown High Bridge. Better off sending trucks down a side road.

(Of course, the real High Bridge is buried under 146 years of dirt.)
Adam Seth Moss
M.A. History, Western Illinois University 2015-17
B.A. History, Montclair State University 2013-15
A.A. History & Education - Middlesex (County) College 2009-13

storm2k

Quote from: dgolub on February 06, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 05, 2021, 09:36:45 PM
CR-513 Truck: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6707694,-74.8946552,3a,44.1y,192.55h,78.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skwL0zWzrfOtb6vk7R0P7MA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I'm guessing that it's a sign goof.  The truck route points down some little local street that appears less suited for trucks than the main route.

That's been the truck route for decades. The CNJ line (now the Raritan Valley Line) overpass on 513 is both too low and too narrow for trucks to pass safely under, so they have to be detoured around.

TheGrassGuy

Well, it's obvious why the truck route is there. But it can't be official, can it?
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

roadman65

Sign along NJ 17 at US 202 is odd as the next exit for Ramapo Avenue uses Pompton Lakes as a control city when Ramapo Avenue don't go there as it ends at US 202 which does go there and is also the first ramp ahead.

So use the second exit to go where the first exit goes. Plus now that I-287 goes to Morristown I think Pompton could replace it now as the US 202 Exit guide was copied from previous signs prior to 1993 when 287 was not completed north of Boonton.

https://www.eastcoastroads.com/states/nj/state/nj17/photogal/south
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: roadman65 on February 11, 2021, 10:21:33 AM
Sign along NJ 17 at US 202 is odd as the next exit for Ramapo Avenue uses Pompton Lakes as a control city when Ramapo Avenue don't go there as it ends at US 202 which does go there and is also the first ramp ahead.

So use the second exit to go where the first exit goes. Plus now that I-287 goes to Morristown I think Pompton could replace it now as the US 202 Exit guide was copied from previous signs prior to 1993 when 287 was not completed north of Boonton.

https://www.eastcoastroads.com/states/nj/state/nj17/photogal/south

Just another of many examples where NJDOT needs to completely rethink the control city used.

roadman65

Quote from: famartin on February 11, 2021, 10:43:34 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 11, 2021, 10:21:33 AM
Sign along NJ 17 at US 202 is odd as the next exit for Ramapo Avenue uses Pompton Lakes as a control city when Ramapo Avenue don't go there as it ends at US 202 which does go there and is also the first ramp ahead.

So use the second exit to go where the first exit goes. Plus now that I-287 goes to Morristown I think Pompton could replace it now as the US 202 Exit guide was copied from previous signs prior to 1993 when 287 was not completed north of Boonton.

https://www.eastcoastroads.com/states/nj/state/nj17/photogal/south

Just another of many examples where NJDOT needs to completely rethink the control city used.


Yes as US 202 is more local and was even before I-287 was completed.  Only during the WWII era I am sure it carried more through traffic due to it bypassing Philly, New York, New Haven, Providence and Boston.  Now of course I-95 and the toll roads serve that issue of bypassing US 1.

NJ should rethink as they did for NJ 17 N Bound swapping Suffern for Mahwah. Though S Bound they still use Newark and that should also be rethought as well.  Paramus and Rutherford would be better for that.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road. 
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).

Alps

Quote from: famartin on February 12, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).
What about NJ 7? 162? 27 in New Brunswick? 😁

famartin

Quote from: Alps on February 12, 2021, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: famartin on February 12, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).
What about NJ 7? 162? 27 in New Brunswick? 😁
:-D

Mr. Matté

Quote from: Alps on February 12, 2021, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: famartin on February 12, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).
What about NJ 7? 162? 27 in New Brunswick? 😁

Considering it has awful bike lanes with concrete-top-abutting-asphalt trench drains, I'd say no, it's your standard lousy Middlesex County road (totally not biased against them despite their awful plowing jobs in Plainsboro on Thursday).

TheGrassGuy

Why has it taken me this long to realize that I have indeed clinched CR 504?? :hmmm:
If you ever feel useless, remember that CR 504 exists.

Alps

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 13, 2021, 11:17:55 AM
Why has it taken me this long to realize that I have indeed clinched CR 504?? :hmmm:
I'm not sure what discussion you think this will generate?

roadman65

I was noticing that at the Tonelle Circle in Jersey City, the access to US 1 & 9 Truck is no longer.  From N Bound Tonelle Avenue, the US 1 & 9 Truck S Bound is signed via St. Paul's Ave as there is now a ramp onto that particular road from it now since NJDOT rebuilt the St. Paul's Ave. Viaduct.

However, coming from JFK Blvd. now one can only go north on Tonelle Avenue, south on the Pulaski Skyway, or south on Tonelle Ave.   No more access to the Truck designation from that particular ramp. 

That part of the circle is left out the same as E Bound US 22 to US 202/ 206 S Bound in Bridgewater was when that interchange got redone in 1987.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

WandaVision had a complete duplication of this sign gantry in the episode tonight:

Alps

Quote from: famartin on February 26, 2021, 09:56:18 PM
WandaVision had a complete duplication of this sign gantry in the episode tonight:

And that doesn't even exist anymore.

famartin

Quote from: Alps on February 27, 2021, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: famartin on February 26, 2021, 09:56:18 PM
WandaVision had a complete duplication of this sign gantry in the episode tonight:

And that doesn't even exist anymore.

Yeah, I wonder if they knew that 🤣 of course, the highway in the background won't be that wide even after they are done. I think they forgot there needed to be an actual exit there, too 🤣. Still, I thought it was a nice touch.

Roadsguy

The gantry was rendered over an eight-lane freeway. If it were only six lanes and they swapped out I-95 for I-295, it'd be at least somewhat believable for what that spot would look like in 2023. :P
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

famartin

Quote from: Roadsguy on February 27, 2021, 09:43:47 AM
The gantry was rendered over an eight-lane freeway. If it were only six lanes and they swapped out I-95 for I-295, it'd be at least somewhat believable for what that spot would look like in 2023. :P

I guess in the Marvel cinematic universe (where billions disappeared in 2018 only to reappear in 2023, there was a Battle of New York, Hydra exists, etc), I-95 was completed as originally planned  :-D

MaddogMicharski

Quote from: famartin on February 12, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).

Would you support numbering CR-541 to NJ-54? With that would come to a minor shortening of US-206.
MaddogMicharski

Don't park your Ford in my driveway.

famartin

Quote from: MaddogMicharski on February 28, 2021, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: famartin on February 12, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).

Would you support numbering CR-541 to NJ-54? With that would come to a minor shortening of US-206.

I don't think they'd be keen to end 206 at 54 instead of 30, and the thru route is definitely 206 over 541. I can see some use in concurrency, but its probably easier to just give it a new number. There are more than enough available.

MaddogMicharski

Quote from: famartin on February 28, 2021, 06:00:37 PM
Quote from: MaddogMicharski on February 28, 2021, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: famartin on February 12, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 12, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Jxh7G5E7TEg1k43o7

Wow! I am impressed. Mileage signs on a NJ county road.

541 is the most "NJDOT-like" county road in NJ, probably, with it being divided with quite a few jug-handles.  You could almost argue it *SHOULD* be a state highway, given its prominence (it has a NJ Turnpike exit after all).

Would you support numbering CR-541 to NJ-54? With that would come to a minor shortening of US-206.

I don't think they'd be keen to end 206 at 54 instead of 30, and the thru route is definitely 206 over 541. I can see some use in concurrency, but its probably easier to just give it a new number. There are more than enough available.

54 is a fairly short route. They could also make that stretch US-206 and NJ-54.
MaddogMicharski

Don't park your Ford in my driveway.

Alps

16, 86, 89 all need to be used.



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