Department of Redundancy Department

[bigboi00069]

I'm sure it had to be done this way, but it still looks redundant to me whenever i see it. When the exits were renumbered on 595, the Davie road exit kept the same exit number, but they still put an "old" sign on the exit with the same number. Picture from AARoads 595 page.

[ajlynch91]

Found this in downtown Chicago a few years back.

[HTM Duke]

VA-244 westbound prior to the left turn onto VA-7 eastbound.  (There was similar redundancy with the former bridge-mounted sign that this ground-mounted one replaced.)

[dcbjms]

Found this in downtown Chicago a few years back.

There's similar "I-195" signs floating around East Providence in a similar style.

[cjk374]

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.17027,-90.230263,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3lRwGPk01X-M9kAeHYvWqA!2e0

[NE2]

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.17027,-90.230263,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3lRwGPk01X-M9kAeHYvWqA!2e0

What's the redundancy? It doesn't look like the pennant is posted in the right place (it should be at the beginning of the no passing zone), but it's intended to be used with the Gandalf sign: http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2c.htm#section2C45

[Brandon]

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.17027,-90.230263,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3lRwGPk01X-M9kAeHYvWqA!2e0

There's no redundancy there.  In some states (Michigan), that's standard and normal.  These states also post "PASS WITH CARE" at then end of the no passing zone.

[empirestate]

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.17027,-90.230263,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3lRwGPk01X-M9kAeHYvWqA!2e0

There's no redundancy there.  In some states (Michigan), that's standard and normal.  These states also post "PASS WITH CARE" at then end of the no passing zone.

Well, there is redundancy, it's just designed into the system. Any correctly signed and striped No Passing zone will be redundant.


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[jbnv]

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.17027,-90.230263,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3lRwGPk01X-M9kAeHYvWqA!2e0

There's no redundancy there.  In some states (Michigan), that's standard and normal.  These states also post "PASS WITH CARE" at then end of the no passing zone.

The pennant appears to be orange, as though it is left-over from the construction.

[formulanone]

Not sure if this qualifies as redundant or just odd...Texas State Highway 35, neutered as "SH 35":


SH-ex as 35 by formulanone, on Flickr

Located in Pearland; there were a few more reassurance markers along SH 35 with the same design. It was raining a bit too much yesterday to get a good shot, so that's the best I could get.

I'm sure it had to be done this way, but it still looks redundant to me whenever i see it. When the exits were renumbered on 595, the Davie road exit kept the same exit number, but they still put an "old" sign on the exit with the same number. Picture from AARoads 595 page.

I thought FDOT started phasing out the "Old Exit #" signs...seems odd (and pointless) to re-create them for I-595 signage changes. With an exit seemingly every mile along that route, that was a good case for keeping sequential exit numbers instead of changing to mileage-based in 2002-03.

[SignGeek101]

http://goo.gl/maps/p1pCu

They really want you to not go over 65 here.

[SignGeek101]

This is similar to a sign posted by Zeffy here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2063012#msg2063012

But now states "THIS LANE"

http://goo.gl/maps/YjKrW

It's redundant because that arrow is supposed to dictate which lanes go where. Adding "This Lane" reinforces what already has been shown by the arrow.

[bzakharin]

This is similar to a sign posted by Zeffy here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2063012#msg2063012

But now states "THIS LANE"

http://goo.gl/maps/YjKrW

It's redundant because that arrow is supposed to dictate which lanes go where. Adding "This Lane" reinforces what already has been shown by the arrow.

This is similar to a sign posted by Zeffy here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2063012#msg2063012

But now states "THIS LANE"

http://goo.gl/maps/YjKrW

It's redundant because that arrow is supposed to dictate which lanes go where. Adding "This Lane" reinforces what already has been shown by the arrow.

It's common practice to show the next exit to the left of an exit only lane sign, so it's not immediately obvious that the lane over which it appears is the lane that exits. Arrows are often used incorrectly (see https://www.google.com/maps/@39.423524,-74.574362,3a,75y,91.38h,68.37t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1scoFnX0jH_IXhJURYblmJUg!2e0!5s20130801T000000!5m1!1e1), so they are not sufficient.

[akotchi]

This is similar to a sign posted by Zeffy here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2063012#msg2063012

But now states "THIS LANE"

http://goo.gl/maps/YjKrW

It's redundant because that arrow is supposed to dictate which lanes go where. Adding "This Lane" reinforces what already has been shown by the arrow.

This is similar to one located on the WB Pa. Turnpike at I-476.  Seems like a good application for some form of APL or diagrammatic panel.

[vtk]

It's redundant because that arrow is supposed to dictate which lanes go where. Adding "This Lane" reinforces what already has been shown by the arrow.

Sometimes such reinforcement is called for.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.754186,-84.151638,3a,48.7y,91.54h,88.38t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sozK6CeuV3IQ5O2M6O7JpuQ!2e0

[SignGeek101]

How redundant would it be to both show an airport symbol, and name the airport? Does this happen a lot in the US?

Shown here (ignore the somewhat poorly spaced sign. Ontario has a height limit of 275 cm I think, but yikes...)

https://goo.gl/maps/GbHHx

[sammi]

How redundant would it be to both show an airport symbol, and name the airport? Does this happen a lot in the US?

"This road goes to an airport." "Which airport?" "Hamilton Airport."

Not really redundant to me.

[english si]

Hamilton =/= Hamilton Airport :. 'Airport' should be added to make it clear, given that the Airplane logo isn't part of the text, but something separate*

Here's a British sign near Manchester that shows that airports are not the city, and also how to incorporate the Airplane logo into the text and avoid writing the word.

The tube map used to have airplane logo at stations with direct services to airports that weren't shown on the map. But which airport was the service heading to? That was unclear as there was no name. They now only have it in the in-car diagrams which have always said 'Gatwick Airport' or similar on them.

*if it was basically a character, then "Hamilton <airplane>" would be fine.

[SignGeek101]

How redundant would it be to both show an airport symbol, and name the airport? Does this happen a lot in the US?

"This road goes to an airport." "Which airport?" "Hamilton Airport."

Not really redundant to me.

I guess... it's just with the sign having limited space, I don't really see why that info is needed. I feel that Quebec does a better job somehow:

https://goo.gl/maps/Bqlcl

[talllguy]

Untitled by Elliott Plack, on Flickr

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/triborough/8992862484/in/pool-njroads/
This here is sine salad because of redundancy, but everything on the large sign is on the smaller ones above it.

[NoGoodNamesAvailable]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/triborough/8992862484/in/pool-njroads/
This here is sine salad because of redundancy, but everything on the large sign is on the smaller ones above it.

I love it when you can tell exactly where a setup came from immediately without reading the destination names. This installation just screams New Jersey. The longer nonstandard arrows give it a sort of unique look that you don't really see in other states.


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[okroads]

This past Saturday, I took a trip through the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles. I found a couple of candidates for this thread:

DSC05337 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

U.S. 287 South in Boise City, OK. This is the only interchange in the Oklahoma panhandle.

DSC05404 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

Business Business TX 152 in Stinnett, TX.

[empirestate]

Can you find the redundancy on this parking meter?

[cjk374]

Can you find the redundancy on this parking meter?

For assistance in the unauthorized removal of this meter, call 311?