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Pullthroughs with street names on them?

Started by Zeffy, May 06, 2014, 12:11:03 PM

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Zeffy

I think this is a rare occurrence. I don't think I have ever seen a street name signed on a pullthrough sign! Image below (from GMSV):



As seen in the photo, US 1 has a destination legend containing Warren Street, which is the last exit in Trenton NJ before crossing over into PA on the toll bridge. However, I don't think I've seen many street names signed as a pullthrough legend even before exiting a city!

There's also another sign before this interchange, right after the Perry Street one:



As you approach the exit for Warren Street, the pullthrough changes back to a standard format:



Has anyone else seen instances of this?
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Ian

The pull-through's on I-287 in northern New Jersey use "N.Y. Thruway" as one of the control cities.
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PHLBOS

It's worth noting that those BGS examples are likely of similar 90s vintage.

Here's one that's an older (80s) vintage: In Philly, along US 1 South along City Ave. just past I-76.
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vtk

Does it matter if the gantry with the pull thru is on a non-freeway that has BGS anyway?

US 23 at I-670 in Columbus comes to my mind.

Also, I think OH 4 at railroad overpasses in Marion (bonus: kickass ancient button copy!)
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Brandon

It's more of a "control city", but...

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Zeffy

Quote from: Brandon on May 06, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
It's more of a "control city", but...



Still counts. Anyone know of another like the Trenton one where there aren't any arrows on the sign?
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corco

#6
Has arrows, unfortunately


No arrows- something similarly weird where they combined a pullthrough with an exit sign- this sign indicates that we're on I-25/US-87, and that McKinley Street will exit soon.

Zeffy

That last example is definitely close to what I had in mind. At the time of that gantry, are you on I-25 / US 87? I was looking for this sign but I'm not having luck finding it...
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corco

Yes, on 25 South right where it crosses the North Platte.

1995hoo

The inbound HOV bridge on I-395 in the District of Columbia used to have a pull-through sign listing "12th Street" underneath the I-395 NORTH legend. It's been replaced with a new sign listing Capitol Hill, Verizon Center, and Nationals Park (which correspond to the signs over the non-HOV carriageway). I suppose sports venues probably aren't all that standard on pull-through signs either!
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lepidopteran

Two examples from Ohio.  Both are instances of freeways that come to an end at the interchange and continue on as local roads.  The first is the I-675 terminus at I-70, and the second is OH-444 (which is really only a freeway for about a mile).

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.866397,-83.993531,3a,75y,358.78h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swTiLfkn7OtOAtjMLmQZ7QQ!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.800761,-84.102038,3a,75y,304.52h,97.42t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snI-1U6A76Ny0Ep6-lZVOMA!2e0

GaryV

The former south end of I-69 in nw Indianapolis has a sign for Binford Blvd.

NB I-75 in Detroit (at the Fisher/Chrysler interchange) has a sign for Gratiot Ave (although that is M-3).

vtk

Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

roadman65

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.736224,-74.085793,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIKaMZo6QyVptVNo-yaRcPg!2e0
This faded one is on US 1 and 9 in Jersey City, NJ.  With the Pulaski Skyway being redone, I am sure that NJDOT will not only replace the sign panels that are beyond worn, but remove "Tonelle Ave." as well and maybe use NYC instead.
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theline

Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2014, 09:34:10 PM
The former south end of I-69 in NE Indianapolis has a sign for Binford Blvd.
FTFY.

That brought to mind another Indy example, sort of:


I know it says "exit only" but Southeastern Ave. is truly the "through" option here, considering how the interchange is constructed:


Zeffy

Quote from: vtk on May 06, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: vtk on May 06, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Does it matter if the gantry with the pull thru is on a non-freeway that has BGS anyway?

US 23 at I-670 in Columbus comes to my mind.

Also, I think OH 4 at railroad overpasses in Marion (bonus: kickass ancient button copy!)

US 23 SB (Summit St) at I-670 https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.976939,-83.00011&spn=0.004686,0.007081&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.977048,-83.000131&panoid=mvbHqW6zL5hrfpFZUSmU4Q&cbp=12,163.87,,1,-3.95

US 23 NB (4th St) at I-670 https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.970411,-82.997385&spn=0.004687,0.007081&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.970304,-82.99739&panoid=mPoIpCBLkbmqvC872_Xz2A&cbp=12,359.67,,1,-4.84

I-670 WB at I-71 (this one's kind of cheating) https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.978929,-82.981474&spn=0.009438,0.014162&t=m&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.979001,-82.98202&panoid=64B8hKFRxOorI1W8fLlx6Q&cbp=12,280.23,,1,-5.59

Do these count? (OH 4 in Marion) https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.592212,-83.130605&spn=0.002338,0.003541&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=40.592407,-83.130618&panoid=tiNovyoiiyylfReU1ndEeQ&cbp=12,182.51,,0,-5.15 and https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.588802,-83.12729&spn=0.002338,0.003541&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=40.588705,-83.127188&panoid=JeoMqGSHl6rCAlYSaPmSGw&cbp=12,343.46,,1,-5.76

US 23 SB - Counts, albeit arrows
US 23 NB - Definitely Counts
I-670 WB - Yes and no
OH 4 - Kind of, I was looking for route number, no arrows, like the US 23 NB example

Quote from: roadman65 on May 07, 2014, 08:38:18 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.736224,-74.085793,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIKaMZo6QyVptVNo-yaRcPg!2e0
This faded one is on US 1 and 9 in Jersey City, NJ.  With the Pulaski Skyway being redone, I am sure that NJDOT will not only replace the sign panels that are beyond worn, but remove "Tonelle Ave." as well and maybe use NYC instead.

Definitely counts.
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roadfro

#16
This example no longer exists, but I think it's kinda what you're looking for.

In Las Vegas, when the 215 beltway was first constructed, the western end was a short distance from I-15 at the Decatur Blvd interchange. At that point, CC 215 had not even been designated yet. So they had about 1.5 miles between I-15 and Decatur with no number designation. If you were on westbound 215 going through the I-15 interchange, this was the sign you saw (Image from AARoads):



The concept here, in 1994 when that sign bridge was originally installed, was that you're pulling through to the Decatur Blvd interchange at that point...there was no other destination ahead. When the picture was taken, the sign was actually outdated as you pulled through to more than Decatur Blvd at that time.

That sign persisted for a little while after the frontage road network was built west of Decatur Blvd (that image was taken in 2000, after frontage roads were opened). If memory serves, that sign was replaced with a "BEGIN 215" pull-through around 2003 or so, when some of the freeway stretches opened on the western segment of the beltway.
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1995hoo

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
The inbound HOV bridge on I-395 in the District of Columbia used to have a pull-through sign listing "12th Street" underneath the I-395 NORTH legend. It's been replaced with a new sign listing Capitol Hill, Verizon Center, and Nationals Park (which correspond to the signs over the non-HOV carriageway). I suppose sports venues probably aren't all that standard on pull-through signs either!

Alps has a photo of the sign I mentioned:

"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Zeffy

Quote from: roadfro on May 08, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
This example no longer exists, but I think it's kinda what you're looking for.

In Las Vegas, when the 215 beltway was first constructed, the western end was a short distance from I-15 at the Decatur Blvd interchange. At that point, CC 215 had not even been designated yet. So they had about 1.5 miles between I-15 and Decatur with no number designation. If you were on westbound 215 going through the I-15 interchange, this was the sign you saw (Image from AARoads):



Was there ever a shield on that sign? Looks like there's a lot of space for one. Or is it just Nevada keeping signs uniform in height?
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TheStranger

#19
California examples that come to mind:

- Route 35 at Route 1 in Daly City, where the pullthroughs identify "Skyline Boulevard" along the short freeway segment of 35 with no control city in either direction:
http://goo.gl/maps/1cnDD
http://goo.gl/maps/HR37N

- US 101 south at Route 1 in San Francisco's Presidio, with "Marina Boulevard" as the control city.  (For many years, the Doyle Drive through lanes - which would have carried 480 to the unbuilt Fisherman's Wharf section - led to Marina Boulevard with 101 using a semi-directional Y to access Richardson Avenue; this is no longer the case with the newer Presidio Parkway alignment)

http://goo.gl/maps/wDhRX

- I-280 north at US 101 in San Francisco, with "Sixth Street" as a control city:
http://goo.gl/maps/wVRaA

This was repeated a few miles further down at the Cesar Chavez (Army) exit, though not sure if the sign is still up:

http://goo.gl/maps/zZ4Ot

Sixth eventually exits off of 280 near its north terminus (providing a street-level connector to I-80), but the mainline lanes lead to King Street (which eventually becomes The Embarcadero).  Prior to the construction of the ballpark, the northbound mainline lanes continued on until a ramp at 3rd Street.

- Route 1 at I-280 in Daly City, even though 1 is marked as an exit off 280 - signed for 19th Avenue (which is a mile from this junction).  (In the original SF freeway planning, 280 was supposed to continue north along the Junipero Serra Freeway here to Golden Gate Park, though that route was only completed to Brotherhood Way)
http://goo.gl/maps/P1K1A



- I-710 north at I-10 in Monterey Park, signed for the terminus at Valley Boulevard:
http://goo.gl/maps/99dHk

- I-380 east at US 101 in San Bruno; while listed as an exit, "North Access Road" is what the mainline becomes after crossing the Bayshore Freeway:
http://goo.gl/maps/JkbPN

- Route 125 north at Route 52 in Santee, mainline signed for Mission Gorge Road/end freeway.
http://goo.gl/maps/q8npU

- I-8 west near the San Diego Sports Arena, signed for Nimitz Boulevard/Sunset Cliffs Boulevard
http://goo.gl/maps/mTXVu

- Route 78 west at I-5 in Oceanside, the through lane is signed for Vista Way
http://goo.gl/maps/4rl3J

- I-105 west at Route 1 in El Segundo, signed for Imperial Highway
http://goo.gl/maps/6rWmG

- US 101 north at Mission Street in SF, the mainline Central Freeway is signed as an exit for Octavia Boulevard.  (Prior to 1989 this was indeed the 101 mainline heading towards Golden Gate Avenue)
http://goo.gl/maps/goKvg
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Dyckman Street at the northern end of the Harlem River Drive.

Scott5114

This practice is somewhat confusing, since my first impression of these is that the road listed is the one I am on (i.e. in the first image in the thread, I would interpret that as the freeway being called Warren Street). There is precedent for this; in Kansas City, KS, US-69 follows a freeway called 18th Street Expy.
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roadman65

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froggie

IIRC, the pullthrough signs along the MN 77 freeway include "Cedar Ave", the name of the highway.

xcellntbuy

At the southern end on the Adirondack Northway in Albany, NY near exits 1E-W, we have the sign, "TO US 20  WESTERN AVENUE" with two pull-throughs.



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