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Started by getemngo, June 12, 2014, 07:50:32 PM

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vtk

Quote from: lepidopteran on June 24, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
In Ohio:

  • US-127 around Greenville is a "wishy-washy" freeway, alternating between interchanges and at-grade intersections.  At OH-121, there's an oddball hybrid of the two; a grade separation and a single ramp that meets 127 at-grade, covering all movements.
  • Someone else mentioned US-23 through Delaware, OH.  It's also freeway as it passes Marion.  There are also several wishy-washy sections along the way, especially around Upper Sandusky.  Same with US-30 and OH-15; a (arbitrary?) mixture of interchanges and at-grades.

Those are called expressways.  Since expressways often do have chunks a few miles long that meet full freeway standards, such isolated freeways embedded in expressway corridors are supposed to be excluded from this thread.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.


vdeane

Between my parent's house and their neighbor's house, the street I grew up on has no cross streets or driveways.  Therefore, this is an isolated super-2 freeway.  :pan:
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

SSOWorld

The Monroe bypass (WIS 11).  Not only isolated, but poorly maintained
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Brandon

Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11).  Not only isolated, but poorly maintained

And underposted.  55 mph for a freeway!?!
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Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11).  Not only isolated, but poorly maintained

And underposted.  55 mph for a freeway!?!

If it's poorly maintained, going faster than 55 might be unsafe. I have never been there, so I'm not sure.
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TEG24601

Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 18, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Given the lack of interchanges, it could be argued that I-587 isn't even a freeway.

Which brings up another good question, Does a freeway necessarily need interchanges, or can it be a section with no grade crossings without interchanges?

I can see both arguments.


I would think it has to have Interchanges, otherwise, it is just a road with no Intersections.  Then again, they gave a freeway designation, and an Interstate number to a glorified ramp in NW Indianapolis.
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JREwing78

Quote from: 1 on June 26, 2014, 09:55:50 AM
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11).  Not only isolated, but poorly maintained

And underposted.  55 mph for a freeway!?!

If it's poorly maintained, going faster than 55 might be unsafe. I have never been there, so I'm not sure.

The portion of Hwy 11 around Monroe itself is in need of resurfacing; the 4-lane portion eastward towards Juda is newer and in much better condition.

Not sure how much it counts as a "isolated" freeway; there's a pedestrian trail crossing (formerly a railroad crossing) at-grade. Granted, for the level of traffic the bypass gets, it's probably adequate.

SteveG1988

US 130, the yardville bypass, it has a short freeway section with overpasses.
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roadman65

I remember US 1 in Southern Pines, NC is not connected to the rest of the state's freeway system.  It turns arterial at both of its ends.

The US 30 freeway near Downingtown, PA was isolated before it was extended to connect with US 202.

The US 1 Freeway between the MD State Line and just north of Kennett Square is still isolated from other freeways.
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SteveG1988

NJ 29 partially counts in my book, between S Warren St and Lee Ave it has a freeway section that is only connected to US1 south, northbound requires the use of either NJ 129, or NJ33.
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doorknob60

Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11).  Not only isolated, but poorly maintained

And underposted.  55 mph for a freeway!?!

Oregon says hi. We even have some at 50 and 45 (though the 45 is debatable whether or not it's a freeway).

BrianP

Although it's a super-2 MD 90 counts.

SteveG1988

The betsy ross bridge and approach on the NJ side is 45mph, with 50 once you get past US130.

I-78 is 50mph on the NJ Turnpike Extension.

I-95 through PA is 55mph even in the rural sections outside trenton
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Zeffy

Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 27, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
I-95 through PA is 55mph even in the rural sections outside trenton

...which few people actually obey, considering I see people flying by at 80+ in the left lane.
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mgk920

-US 97 - Bend, OR.

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webfil

#115
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on June 18, 2014, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: CrystalWalrein on June 14, 2014, 10:12:56 PMlso, A-70 around Saguenay, Québec, and a short segment of ON 11 north of Thunder Bay.

What's interesting is that, while being only a bypass, A-70 still bears an Autoroute designation... and is a several hours' drive from the closest Autoroute.

Well, what you are saying can be true from one point of view. The closest autoroute is A-20 in Rivière-du-Loup (127 kilometres as a crow flies), but is several hours away as you would have to take an hour-long ferry to go from one to the other

Meanwhile, A-73 is 141 km (ACF) southward, but a mere 1h40 by car ― which is not, IMHO, "several" hours.
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Also, I would point out this 148-kilometre section of NB-8 and NB-11 (two designations, but actually acts as a single continuous road) between Jeanne-Mance Corner and Tide Head in northern Acadie, although I know some purists like their freeways with a median.

vdeane

According to Google, it's 2h11m.  Of course, Google Maps always goes the speed limit (and often slower).
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

jakeroot

Quote from: mgk920 on June 28, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
-US 97 - Bend, OR.

The Bend Parkway has always struck me as odd. It was built in the late 20th century/early 21st but yet it was built through the city. I always thought modern freeways were built around cities?

Also, the right turn slip ramp from Reed Market towards the Parkway..WHY?

ElPanaChevere

Maybe someone mentioned it? The ones that come to mind are the freeway loops/bypasses in Albany, Georgia and Athens, Georgia. Since they're not interstate highways, Georgia decided to keep the sequential number sequence on them when everything was converted in 2000 (just like GA 400 in Fulton and Forsyth Counties).
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webfil

Quote from: vdeane on June 29, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
According to Google, it's 2h11m.  Of course, Google Maps always goes the speed limit (and often slower).

Your Goog's weird; 175 is the only R-route to have 100 km/h posted.

Dr Frankenstein

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Quote from: webfil on July 02, 2014, 12:53:56 PMYour Goog's weird; 175 is the only R-route to have 100 km/h posted.
That one and R-132 through Boucherville (which retains the 100 km/h limit after A-20 exits itself at the city line; granted, it's a canceled autoroute, A-430).

doorknob60

#121
Quote from: jake on June 29, 2014, 10:02:14 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 28, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
-US 97 - Bend, OR.

The Bend Parkway has always struck me as odd. It was built in the late 20th century/early 21st but yet it was built through the city. I always thought modern freeways were built around cities?

Also, the right turn slip ramp from Reed Market towards the Parkway..WHY?
Yeah that's a sketchy ramp. It's marked with a yield sign, and it's hard to see cars coming at you because bushes are in the way, and there's no acceleration lane at all for it after the turn. It doesn't get much traffic though. Probably my biggest gripes with the parkway though are the 45 MPH speed limit, which makes it really dangerous because everyone's going 60 in the left lane and if it's crowded, 40-45 in the right lane, which is really dangerous, as well as the traffic signals on the south end (which they're working to fix, except the one at Powers) and especially the north end (Cooley and Robal). There's long term plans to extend the parkway along the railroad tracks to bypass the shopping center at the north end, but their latest plans have the bypass intersecting current US-97 north of Bend...with another traffic signal! Could they really not find the money for one flyover ramp (it doesn't need to be a full interchange)? It will be many years before this happens, though. Oh, and they should add more/longer accel/decel lanes on the RIROs. Oh, and get rid of the damn at grade crosswalks!

And with the rapid growth of Bend the past 20 years, there's no way our arterials would have been adequate for local traffic if the bypass was built around the east side of town. I wasn't around pre-parkway (well, not in my memory anyways), but my Dad told me horror stories about 3rd St being backup up for a mile at the underpass where it drops to two lanes (total). And Bend has grown even more since the parkway has been built. If it wasn't there now, Bend's traffic would be atrocious, even with an eastern bypass.

And on topic with the thread, you can add the US-97 bypass around Klamath Falls (northern half is super-2, southern half 4 lanes). Not sure if the short Redmond bypass counts (there is only one grade separated interchange).

For those interested in the current proposal for a northern bypass: http://www.us97solutions.org/PDF/East_DS2_Modified_Alternative.pdf

vdeane

Quote from: webfil on July 02, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 29, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
According to Google, it's 2h11m.  Of course, Google Maps always goes the speed limit (and often slower).

Your Goog's weird; 175 is the only R-route to have 100 km/h posted.

Ah, you started from the northern end of the freeway.  I started from A-40 in Quebec City.
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bugo

It's not an "isolated freeway" but I find it interesting how the US 69 freeway peters out in Fort Scott, KS.  It goes from a full freeway to a dangerous 4 lane arterial type road with little warning.

Alex4897

Quote from: Zeffy on June 27, 2014, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 27, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
I-95 through PA is 55mph even in the rural sections outside trenton

...which few people actually obey, considering I see people flying by at 80+ in the left lane.

Same in Delaware, although, doing the speed limit anywhere west of Wilmington is suicide.
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