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Author Topic: Philadelphia is still interested in making Roosevelt Boulevard into a Freeway  (Read 1264 times)

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Looking at the June 2019 presentation, I strongly suspect the "Neighborhood Boulevard" option will be the one that is chosen. If they even try to pick the "Partially Capped Expressway" option, the NIMBYs will howl with opposition, and lawsuits against it will be filed like gangbusters. Like it or not, Roosevelt Boulevard is likely stuck in its existing configuration permanently.
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Looking at the June 2019 presentation, I strongly suspect the "Neighborhood Boulevard" option will be the one that is chosen. If they even try to pick the "Partially Capped Expressway" option, the NIMBYs will howl with opposition, and lawsuits against it will be filed like gangbusters. Like it or not, Roosevelt Boulevard is likely stuck in its existing configuration permanently.

Why though? The partially capped expressway means pedestrians have to cross fewer lanes of traffic. NIMBYism isn't always a thing.
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People hate change. Look at how much opposition the people of Cape Cod showed towards renumbering US 6's exit numbers from sequential to mileage-based. I would expect those living along Roosevelt Boulevard (and elsewhere) would level similar opposition to the "Partially Capped Expressway" proposal, even though I myself would totally support it (although being from Madison, Wisconsin, I have no say in the matter). When emotions run high, rationality often goes out the window.
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People hate change. Look at how much opposition the people of Cape Cod showed towards renumbering US 6's exit numbers from sequential to mileage-based. I would expect those living along Roosevelt Boulevard (and elsewhere) would level similar opposition to the "Partially Capped Expressway" proposal, even though I myself would totally support it (although being from Madison, Wisconsin, I have no say in the matter). When emotions run high, rationality often goes out the window.

They're currently planning to widen the Cape Cod Bridges to 6 lanes. There may be a handful of vocal opponents but they're a minority. In Lincoln, there were few opponents to the replacement of the infamous Crosby's Corner intersection on 2 with a freeway interchange and officials in Concord have been begging the MassDOT for years to do the same thing to the Concord Rotary. Most of the people who live along Roosevelt Boulevard also drive on Roosevelt Boulevard and know how terrible it is.

It seems like NIMBYs get unfairly scapegoated in the cancellation of highway projects when more likely than not, it's a matter of money. See also: Nuclear Power Plants.
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I didn't know that they were still building freeways in cities.

This is a special case where, by all objective measures, a freeway would make the immediate area more livable than what's there now. Currently, it's a 12 lane at-grade avenue with 4 separate carriageways separated by a wide grassy median.

It looks like it's auditioning (poorly) for the lead role in a biopic of the dual-dual portion of the NJ Turnpike.  (Don't call us, we'll call you)  :)

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I didn't know that they were still building freeways in cities.

This is a special case where, by all objective measures, a freeway would make the immediate area more livable than what's there now. Currently, it's a 12 lane at-grade avenue with 4 separate carriageways separated by a wide grassy median.

It looks like it's auditioning (poorly) for the lead role in a biopic of the dual-dual portion of the NJ Turnpike.  (Don't call us, we'll call you)  :)

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I didn't know that they were still building freeways in cities.
There’s even examples in Europe of new freeways being constructed in cities.
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Copy Virginia and give it a diet like Mercury Blvd in Hampton.  The once dual roadway of Mercury Blvd, set up like Roosevelt Blvd is always been,  is narrowed the roadway to just the original inner roadway.
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People hate change. Look at how much opposition the people of Cape Cod showed towards renumbering US 6's exit numbers from sequential to mileage-based. I would expect those living along Roosevelt Boulevard (and elsewhere) would level similar opposition to the "Partially Capped Expressway" proposal, even though I myself would totally support it (although being from Madison, Wisconsin, I have no say in the matter). When emotions run high, rationality often goes out the window.
Well now their precious bridges will be coming down in the next decade, so I guess that makes everything even.

But with regards to Roosevelt Blvd, why isn't a double-stacked tunnel an option?
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